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We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.

Answers to Frequently Asked Questions

  • Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
  • Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
  • Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.

Frequently Reported Issues

This isn't everything, just the most common problems.

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    General Site Issues 
  • Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
  • Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
  • Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
    • No sorting options.
    • Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
    • Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
    • Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
  • Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
    • ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
  • The Cut List does not work.
    • Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
    • Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
    • Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
    • Additional cutlist issues noted here.
  • Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
  • Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
  • Namespace index is broken. [Logged]

    Wiki Issues 
  • Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
    • Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
  • Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
    • HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
  • Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
  • Redirects are broken. [Patched]
    • This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
  • Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
  • Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
    • Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
  • The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
  • Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
  • In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
    • Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
    • In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
  • The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]

    Forum Issues 
  • [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
  • Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
  • Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
  • "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
  • "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
  • "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
  • Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
  • Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]

    Miscellaneous 
  • Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
  • Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
  • Crowners are broken. [Logged]
  • Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]

Previously compiled lists of problems: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM

Zanreo Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou
#126: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:32:06 PM

I also tried logging into another browser and got a "could not log in" error... even though it right afterwards would actually log me in

"Leftover items still have value!"
Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#127: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:32:35 PM

A different user is having a problem with the site where the adblock-detection system redirects her to a fullpage error message that can't be turned off, not the popup.

Midna Since: Jan, 2001
#128: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:33:10 PM

Oh yeah, speaking of posts. It's super annoying how the page navigation isn't also at the top of the page anymore.

Koveras Mastermind Rational from Germany Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Mastermind Rational
#129: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:33:46 PM

The new YMMV and Trivia markers advising to move the example over to the respective tab appear even if the wikiword is linked from the main text of the example, rather than right after the bullet point (before, the engine only checked the first wiki word), e.g. on Reflections of Eterna. Is that working as intended?

RoseAndHeather Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#130: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:34:27 PM

And here I didn't think the layout could get any worse than the last change...

The images have all been shrunken. The color scheme hurts my eyes. The formatting is worse, and my tropes watchlist is nigh on unreadable.

Why? What was the point of making everything worse?

I serve at the pleasure of President Pritchart.
Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#131: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:36:04 PM

Flame Bait items aren't flagged with a little flame on YMMV articles, see YMMV.Wiki Sandbox (the Fan Dumb entry at the bottom).

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#132: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:36:19 PM

On my iPhone 6's Safari browser, the main page has no search bar.

DevilPsyco from The Underworld (pretty deep down in the ground) Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
#133: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:36:20 PM

I also had the login problem a few times. And speaking of images, I can't upload new avatars to my profile at all. When I try (with a fully square image too), it just says 'Error updating remote server', and it won't let me do anything other than removing the image file. I also can't switch to another avatar that's already in my gallery anymore.

In the year 202X, all is devastation... Soon, any last shred of hope had by the saintliest optimist shall die and decay.
inkoalawetrust GAIA from The Gap Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Desperate
#134: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:36:59 PM

The Thread Watch page shows ALL the forum threads im watching even if they have no new posts made and it's really annoying because i have to scroll through 100+ threads.

Also the entire user interface completely sucks and is a downgrade to the old one and we need an option that makes us able to change back to the one that was actually good and functional because now my avatar isn't even displayed on my profile page and is instead replaced by the generic broken image icon.

Edited by inkoalawetrust on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:45:55 AM

[1] [2] [3] Click the links for some info about my avatar.
secretfan14 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#135: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:37:14 PM

Uploading images doesn't work. You put in an image, it loads, and then the tiny icon just sits there and you can't access the image link.

Zanreo Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Meito Anizawa, Anime Tenchou
#136: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:37:25 PM

(wait nevermind I misread some things)

Edited by Zanreo on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:38:12 AM

"Leftover items still have value!"
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#137: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:37:52 PM

Io tried to edit a page as a test. I made my edit, the site took a good thirty seconds to load a new page. That page was a blank screen. I went back to the page I edited and it's locked. So now every time you try to edit a page the page locks itself.

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#138: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:37:53 PM

First, I'm noticing pages locking and unlocking at random. Is this how it now signifies someone is currently editing them? Before, it would tell us if someone was in the middle of editing. It also doesn't link to the Locked Pages list like before.

Second, I can no longer see the edit page button when in the pages history section, which is oft how I find what needs editing and thus an inconvenience.

Is an intentional change or not or if I'm missing something.

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Jun 26th 2018 at 1:37:45 AM

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#139: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:38:37 PM

secretfan14 a temporary fix for that would be to take the image's file name and slot it into the tvtropes image url. If it's been uploaded then that should work.

Edited by lakingsif on Jun 26th 2018 at 1:38:31 AM

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
darkemyst Since: Mar, 2017
#140: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:38:44 PM

When editing a post in the TPL the cancel and save buttons overlap with the text box.

Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#141: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:39:28 PM

Random pages are locked and unlocked for me.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#142: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:39:50 PM

In Night Vision mode, the WMG, and YMMV, Series, Webcomic and basically any of the namespace icon who are black or grey are almost impossible to make out.

In regular "White Mode", the same grey/black icons are even MORE impossible to see if they are the namespace you currently are in as the currently selected namespace icon turns dark grey.

Also in Night Vision Mode, when editing or writing a new post in the forum, the thread title remains blue on white.

The image Uploader is broken. I drop an image, I get a progress bad, then never get a formatting markup to link to my uploaded image.

Edited by Ghilz on Jun 26th 2018 at 4:40:49 AM

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#143: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:40:03 PM

I tried to edit Here We Go Again! using the new system, but it just gave me a "trying to change too much of the page" error. When I tried to preview my change (which only affected one entry), it showed me a blank page. Now the page is locked for editing.

Update: After I manually entered "?action=edit", it let me cancel the edit and unlock the page again.

Edited by Prfnoff on Jun 26th 2018 at 1:42:30 AM

IchigoMontoya (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#144: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:40:51 PM

Also, this new way of going back to previous pages in a forum thread ain't working very well for me. Any chance we could possibly go back to when certain preceeding page numbers were listed and you could just click on them?

Hope y'all know what I'm saying because I dunno exactly how to put it in words myself.

RtU Minister of Silly Walks from Syberspace, Fighting Kilokahn Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Minister of Silly Walks
#145: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:41:05 PM

There's a slight data bug for me: my profile says I've been a part of TV Tropes since 2012.

...I didn't even know about the site back then, so it is absolutely incorrect.

And no, I didn't get logged into someone else's account.

"THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!" -John Cleese, Monty Python's Flying Circus, 'Dead Parrot'
Boomer75 Since: Aug, 2017
#146: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:42:26 PM

I went to make a post, and pressing enter twice no longer breaks the line.

Coleman Since: May, 2016
Everdream Since: Feb, 2013
#148: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:43:32 PM

Please don't ban me if you want honest feedback.

One of the things that irritates me the most about the internet is websites randomly deciding they need to change their layouts and design. What was remotely wrong with the previous design? Nothing whatsoever, and all this did was irritate a bunch of people and gave the programmers a shitload of bugs to fix. Now I'm wondering if I have any security and privacy with my watch list and email if any random, possibly malicious fool can randomly be logged into my account at any moment.

CrystalMemoria Since: Aug, 2017
#149: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:44:07 PM

I have a few problems with the new update... Note: I actually have to use a completely different browser to get the site to work (Specifically Microsoft Edge, which I have never used before):

1. I cannot get it to work on Chrome (My normal browser). I can't do anything. It looks like ''this'' on Chrome.

2. I have that log in as random people glitch on Chrome. I can go from one part of the site to another and I'll be logged in as random people, or not be logged in at all.

3. I would like to have line breaks in my signature. My signature format got ruined because of the fact that you cannot have line breaks now...

4. Why is the option to change your avatar almost completely hidden now? I change my avatars a lot, and I appreciated having the option to look at the avatar gallery and upload avatars without having to click on "More". This is extremely inconvenient. Then when I did go to change my avatar I couldn't even tell it was changed until I left that page and looked at another page. At first I thought it wasn't working.

5. The avatar gallery is weird. It only shows like three pages at a time. It really startled me at first thinking that my other avatars were deleted by accident or something.

6. Apparently the image link I linked to is a hotlinked image?! So I can't even show you what it looks like unless I (hopefully) edit my post to have the words link to it instead?

I have no idea what to do about this...

Edited by CrystalMemoria on Jun 26th 2018 at 3:45:24 AM

InnothenjaValentin Since: May, 2017
#150: Jun 26th 2018 at 1:44:10 PM

First, the link in the bulletin is still botched.

Second, the note function is also botched too, being normal text instead of the usual appearance.

And third, the deactivate spoiler function is missing? I'd like it to be at the sidebar as it used to be.

Edit: Fourth, as I viewed my post on this thread while nightvision on, it appeared with light grey text on white background, which is just as readable as it sounds. And it was only my post, everyone else's post appeared to be like the trope pages in therms of colours.

Edit 2: Point four seems to be fixed, my post being white on greyish blue.

Edited by InnothenjaValentin on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:52:12 AM


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