We've just pushed a large overhaul public. Please report complaints, comments and concerns here. When reporting bugs, please make sure you include which browser(s) and platform(s) you have encountered the issue with.
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
- Why did we do this? This update has been in development for over a year. It replaces a vast amount of messy code on the back-end, gives us a new modernized design, updates us to https, and creates a platform that we can more easily build on for future updates.
- Can we go back to the old design? This isn't happening. We'll make the new one work.
- Why are there so many bugs? As with any major overhaul, some problems will occur. The developers are working full-time on fixing stuff.
Frequently Reported Issues
This isn't everything, just the most common problems.Status Values
- Being logged in as someone else, sort of. [FIXED]
- Where'd the "Folders Open" toggle go? Not a bug, it's in your profile.
- Multiple issues with the new site search feature. [Logged]
- No sorting options.
- Forum poster search is gone. [FIXED]
- Can't search specifically by thread title, making results unhelpful.
- Pagination doesn't work correctly — the last page displays as if there were no search results.
- Line breaks don't work in some areas. (Ask The Tropers, Trope Launch Pad, forum previews) [Patched]
- ATT, TLP, forum previews fixed. Some more line breaking issues were identified and are being worked on.
- The Cut List does not work.
- Cannot approve or deny requests. [FIXED]
- Line breaks don't work. [FIXED]
- Cut request reasons don't appear. [FIXED]
- Additional cutlist issues noted here
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- Note, subscript, and superscript formatting are broken in various places. [FIXED]
- Night vision has significant readability problems. [Patched]
- Namespace index is broken. [Logged]
- Articles may become locked when edited, or when backing out of editing without clicking Cancel. Moderators can remove the locks but can't fix the underlying problem. [Patched]
- Remaining issue: the lock system still doesn't distinguish between an article that's locked and one that's checked out for editing.
- Edits won't save when "<" or ">" characters are present in the markup. [Patched]
- HTML detection was disabled for the time being. We're working on a more robust system.
- Edits won't save when the [norreallife] tag is present in the markup. [FIXED]
- Redirects are broken. [Patched]
- This is at least partially fixed. We need to know if there are any remaining problems.
- Indexing is broken. [In Progress]
- Images on wiki articles are rendered smaller than in the previous design. [Patched]
- Resizing images with [quoteright] tags is still broken.
- The "Following" list (formerly called the Watchlist) doesn't distinguish visually between viewed and unviewed articles. [In Progress]
- Custom titles are no longer appearing in all places where they should. [FIXED]
- In-line icons for Flame Bait, Trivia, and YMMV wicks are intended, but sometimes overlap preceding text. [Patched]
- Trivia icons should not appear in-line. (Design issue, logged)
- In second-level bullets, icons overlap preceding text. [Logged]
- The [invoked] tag no longer suppresses the aforementioned icons. [Logged]
- [quoteblock] markup causes everything inside to appear italic and squashed together. [FIXED]
- Line breaking for external links doesn't work correctly. [FIXED]
- Post numbering is no longer visible, although you can retrieve it from the hard-link. [Logged]
- "Delete all posts by user" mod feature now causes posts to be completely hidden instead of replaced with "Troll Post". [Logged]
- "Mark all as read" forum feature doesn't work. [Logged]
- "Save Draft" feature doesn't work as expected. [Logged]
- Forum post preview doesn't show all markup. [FIXED]
- Unread indicators on individual forums (topics.php) seem to have nothing to do with whether you actually have any unread posts. [Logged]
- Avatar upload is broken. [In Progress]
- Avatar galleries aren't formatted properly. [Logged]
- Crowners are broken. [Logged]
- Namespace configurator (mod tool) is missing some auto page type options, and the namespace locking feature doesn't work. [Logged]
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Edited by Fighteer on Jul 13th 2018 at 3:56:59 PM
Amateur Veteran
It seems that some pages just aren't displaying text anymore. Both Bone and Obvious Beta are coming out entirely blank.
Edited by Theriocephalus on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:32:41 AM
The text colors on the History pages are really ugly compared to the old ones.
The Protomen enhanced my life.
Crossed-Over
"When I'm done...half the articles on the wiki will be locked because of buggy code."
Also, did the front page trope just change AGAIN?
Reposting:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/SingleProposition/ChangeLayoutBack#jm3jgpl8
Edited by tentacles42 on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:34:14 AM
Can confirm editing works, at least on my end. Now if the folders not opening issue could get fixed, that'd be amazing. 8P
Rioting? We are legally and rightfully expressing grievance with how this site has changed and became worse through this forced update.
@Angrok Va Yeah, totally. Hopefully, if they do change the wiki back to pre-update, they'll keep the blue colors. They're really nice.
Peace out, peeps.
It looks like the avatar sizes got fixed!
The Protomen enhanced my life.
indighost | he/them
@NickTheSwing: okay sure, I'm just saying, the exclamation points gave off a "torches and pitchforks" vibe.
That being said, I've changed my title to "Hashtag: Not My Tropes". Because if I type it differently it comes out as #Not My Tropes.
...I don't edit much, okay!
Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:40:51 AM
Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
Google "big ears"
So my sandbox page was unlocked for a moment and now is locked again.
I suppose that's ANOTHER bug
Uni cat
insert commentary here
Clicking on spoiler boxes when Show Spoilers is on doesn't turn the spoiler filter back on.
Red-linking seems to not be working. I am about to make a page for Bob Le Flambeur, and so I made that link on the page for its remake The Good Thief. It shows up blue as if there is already a Bob le flambeur page, but there isn't.
indighost | he/them
I also have a problem with the edit timestamp.
![[down]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_down.png "[down]"){kind=icon}
See? The timestamp, I mean, not any post below, heh.
Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:43:18 AM
Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
Firefox: Not sure if it was mentioned, but title search is completely nonfunctional, with every return as Do not put quotes around terms.
rollin' on dubs
At least the night vision mode still works.
My eyes when I saw the new design: "AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" <pause to blink> "AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48
There is seemingly a memory leak with either the site or ads, the site's pages are causing a constant memory increase.
Amateur Veteran
I just noticed that the sub-index boxes on index pages (the "floatboxright" ones) aren't working anymore. The sub-indexes are stacked on the left on top of the regular tropes and no box appears. I have no idea if this is intentional or another bug, but either way it's confusing and, in my opinion, poor use of space.
Also, Animals See in Monochrome seems to be having issues with inbound wiki links. Its page lists it as un-indexed despite it being on Artistic License – Biology and Animal Tropes, and its Related page says nothing links back to it despite at least the aforementioned links working just fine. Is this an isolated issue or are other pages doing this?
Just catching up on this thread and saw something to weigh in on
Re: Crowner: Y'all know that poll is beyond useless, right? "At the very least it has the potential to be a more accurate read on community sentiment as opposed to just reading what the people who bother to post say." Hahahaha no, because not only do people have to come across the link to it, they have to click that link and bother voting. And most of the people who will take the time to do that are going to be, you guessed it, the ones who bother to voice their negative opinions to begin with, while people with a less negative outlook are less likely to participate. It's like the implicit bias in receipt tracker customer satisfaction surveys except worse.
Re: Rollback: incredibly unlikely to happen. The frontend design is likely closely intertwined with backend code that they're working on fixing and bringing improvements to. Rolling back the design would then also mean rolling back any backend changes.
Re: Beta: I know that there was a beta testing group for this update, but I was not part of it, despite having been part of the Kickstarter beta group that tested the original redesign and the Dragon design. I do feel like us KS backers should have been included.
indighost | he/them
@TairaMai: There's another bug right there. I think. Where you type in a big enough word, it breaks out of the border.
For example: supercalifragilisticexpialidociousIthinkthat'showit'sspelledbeenawhilesinceI'veseenthatmovie.
Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:50:41 AM
Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus
rollin' on dubs
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
Thanks.
And why are some posts highlighted???
All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48
Shocking Gun!
I didn't comment on this earlier since I wanted to wait, but New Edits page is like super short now due of now only showing one page and thus can't browse through older edits.
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
The latest post is highlighted. That is, the post you specific go to when clicking on a topic. This is also the case in the earlier version with the Discussion pages of various Work pages on the Wiki itself.
That said, interesting update. Works decently well enough for me so far. Once in a while I get logged out. Only notable things are the inability to mark a forum read among the things I usually use.
@Sixthhokage 1: You seem to be somewhat in-the-know here, so what would you say the chances are of us getting a Gmail-style option to toggle between the new and old interfaces? That would solve most of the non-bug complaints imo, let the users who like the new interface use the new interface and the ones that don't, give them the option to continue using the old one. Is there any technical or administrative reason why this could not be done?
Edited by zealots on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:58:00 AM
Just here to say that I'm really loving the new update! I much prefer the design and layout compared to the previous version of the site. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
In dark mode the highlighted post is literally unreadable cause the highlight is the same color of the text.
@KoolKoopaGirl: yeah, the buttons give off a Nintendo LABO feel in hindsight, doesn't it?
Also yay, 801 posts!
Edited by AngrokVa on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:31:13 AM
Xbox/PlayStation: IndiGhost77 | on semi-hiatus