Halloween (2018)

I'm impressed Halloween 2018 made Michael feel legit scary while also not sinking to "let's make the unkillable monster fucking ''rape'' his niece and have an incest baby because why not".

Seriously who'd defend that decision!? Who looks at an already scary, evil villain and thinks "you know what would make this guy better as an antagonist? If he was a rapist!"

I'm pretty sure you can write a totally evil villain without resorting to sexual assault as a way to drive home how eviiiillll they are. Like did Johan Liebert ever rape someone, or Anton Chigurh or Carnage or Ultron or Frieza or DIO?

Edited by Snailfish on Mar 13th 2021 at 11:22:01 AM

It could be worse, you could be Freddy, who's only good in a fraction of the movies he's in and whose last movie appearance made him a pedophile.

Full trailer, with a lot of murdering:

This one looks as over-the-top with the violence as something like H6 or Zombie's entries.

The one time you don't want the firemen to do their job huh?

I guess we already know the theme song.

Nice reference to Halloween 3 with that pumpkin mask. I’m still not sure why a bazillionth sequel was necessary though.

He actually might surpass Jason with the sheer number of kills.

Jason had 152, while Michael had 129.

Then again...according to Word of God, in Jason X, when the ship crashed into Solaris, 19,747 people were killed, so Jason would still have the most kills by a long shot.

In a funny coincidence, I found out that on the IMDb's "Bottom 100", there were six Friday the 13th films, four Halloween films, four A Nightmare on Elm Street films, four The Texas Chainsaw Massacre films, and four Child's Play films.

I don't think movies based on video games have that bad a reputation. We might as well have a trope named "Slasher Movies Suck".

Edited by ErichoTOME on Jun 28th 2021 at 12:50:26 PM

Sci Fi Ghetto ish.

Some of those had to have been ancient. Like, back when IM Db was rec.arts.movies. The only three major slashers I remember being on there were Child's Play 3 and Friday the 13th 5 and 8.

Oh wait, I meant "Bottom 1000", not "Bottom 100". So sorry. Yeah, they have a "Bottom 1000" pick on the imdb.com/search/title page though oddly enough not a Bottom 500.

The only one of those films on the Bottom 100 is Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation.

Edited by ErichoTOME on Jun 29th 2021 at 5:48:35 AM

Is it really better to be "just" a child murderer? I mean, it was always implied anyway.

I tend to prefer subtlety to hammering in details anyway, so maybe that's why I don't like that added crime for him.

He was apparently supposed to be but the censors DID think being just a child murderer was better.

Mind you, I could see Freddy mocking offense at the accusation and clarifying he only killed them.

He was a pedophile in the remake, not that we talk about that one.

I'm referring to the original plan for Nightmare.

Because, of course, Freddy was not envisioned as a mascot.

Technically he'd be an ephebophile if he was targeting adolescents/teenagers rather than actual children (i.e. pre-teen.)

But its not really a massive difference and vile either way.

Reviews are creeping in for Halloween Kills from the Venice Film Festival(SPOILERS WITHIN). The Hollywood Reporter hated it. Variety was no kinder, and Indiewire was middling.

Edited by Prowler on Sep 8th 2021 at 2:34:21 AM

That’s not a surprise, slashers are pretty much always unpopular with critics.

But they liked the last one; one of the critics panning Kills noted that they thought the 2018 film was pretty good.

Someone else who saw it tweeted that it was "half a movie" while still saying they liked it.

Edited by Prowler on Sep 8th 2021 at 2:36:54 AM

The problem with slasher sequels is the same problem with the Joker. What was once fresh and a return to form goes back to the predictable pattern of this is how the killer operates, even if he tries to do something new and unpredictable.

And really, the only thing new that the Halloween franchise could do with Myers now... is indisputably kill him off for real. No resurrection this time.

Edited by Shadao on Sep 8th 2021 at 1:54:58 AM

I kind of had a fear in the back of my head that I thought the previous film was just too good of a finale and they should have ended there with Laurie finally turning the tables on Myers. Extending this to a full trilogy would always be a risky gambit.

I probably would have accepted it if they'd offered a last look at Myers with some finality, which is something II and H20 managed(which was a trick, but at the time you had reason to believe it).

I'm sure Halloween Ends will give us a look at Myers's body that screams "There, see? He's dead! DEAD!"

Or he'll kill everyone on the planet in that one. Who knows.

As of this post, Halloween Kills is sitting at 45% on Rotten Tomatoes(compared to 2018's 79%).

Edited by Prowler on Sep 8th 2021 at 3:17:31 AM

They should have just have Myers go out the same way he did in Halloween II.

You see the body on fire and then he falls down dead, burning into a pile of ashes.

I wonder if it’d be possible to just… incapacitate Myers. Like, impale him, chain him, cut off his limbs or all of the above… anything that would make him harmless even if he can’t die.

The last one was a remake of the first. The fact they're still doing the same damn thing isn't surprising to me. At least the Zombie movies tried to do something unique with the series.

Halloween Kills is getting a day-and-date release on the Peacock streaming service.

Edited by Prowler on Sep 9th 2021 at 3:54:33 AM