Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

I would want a strategy game where you can potentially take control of the Galaxy. I suppose something similar to romance of the three kingdoms or Rise of Nobunaga

I want all of your ideas.

I want Sims Star Wars.

Not to be that guy, but they’re only looking for people in publishing and marketing. Don’t expect any new games any time soon.

I don't know if Disney is even interested in AAA games. Like based on their properties, the last time they made a narrative game is Epic Mickey. After that you have the Infinity series and some other stuff here and there, and Kingdom Hearts but they look at games primarily for marketing and promotional, i.e. mobile games tie-ins, or skins, or multiplayer than a medium for expression. The Spider-Man game that came out last year was outsourced to Insomniac Games which is a Sony-owned and funded subsidiary. In the case of Star Wars, electronic arts has not done any kind of good job with the license. So unless you get some new entrepreneurial vision about games somewhere, you won't see titles about Star Wars on the level that it should be.

Ideally Star Wars should be a mix of Beyond Good & Evil and its sequel, with a mix of No Man's Sky. The movies are all about visiting different planets, places and so on. So you need to make a Millennium Falcon game, where you pilot the Falcon or a ship like that, and go across planets doing jobs, dodging factions and interacting with a stream of galactic society. That's the real Star Wars movie experience and you haven't gotten that in any of the games so far.

Just give me my Imperial Commando game. It’s almost a week and I’m still upset over the cliffhanger.

That or dust off the notes for 1313.

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 20th 2019 at 5:45:37 AM

It could mean they're primarily interested in publishing projects with a Star Wars angle: reaching out to indies, buying ideas from and/or hiring smaller studios, outsourcing in general. Rather than make the games themselves, it sounds like they're going to start spreading their net wide.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 20th 2019 at 3:44:23 AM

Good. As long as it doesn't linger with EA.

It's what they should've done in the kriffing first place, but thinking about that too much will just lead me down the dark side. Better late than never.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 20th 2019 at 3:56:46 AM

To be fair, EA seemed like a good idea at the time. I mean top AAA game publisher and they had a lot of good titles in the past, a record making licensed games of James Bond, LOTR and Harry Potter games. They also did Dead Space which people liked.

That EA have what can only be called Epic Fail with its Star Wars games, and failure to use the IP in a time when Warner Bros. are going next level with what they do with licensed properties, was unexpected at the start, and unfortunate in retrospect.

Edited by Revolutionary_Jack on Mar 20th 2019 at 4:37:00 AM

Star Wars Ace Combat would be a great game, I bet, especially if it was something like the Clone Wars or Rebel Alliance vs Empire or Resistance vs First Order.

I’ve been playing lots of Everspace recently, and a Star Wars game that works that way would be fantastic.

A Star Wars Fleet Command game that used a modified version of the Madden NFL engine where the playbook is used to map out fleet maneuvers.

This would be perfect for EA.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Mar 21st 2019 at 3:15:37 PM

So Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock.

... were they unable to get Mark Hamill's likeness rights for this figure or something?

Or am I misremembering and ANH Luke was played by a young Val Kilmer?

The one in the box looks a little like... Heath Ledger?

Sort of reminds me of Starkiller from the force unleashed.

As much as I like those two things I can-not see that happening. The closest you got to that was The Force Unleashed and, well, that was a thing. I suppose.

Thank you for not suggesting that Platinum Games work on it.

Edited by Soble on Mar 22nd 2019 at 8:43:14 AM

A post pointing out how truly tragic Anakin is while not excusing his actions.

A lot of posts like that assume Anakin perceived being a Jedi as the same as being a slave, but there’s not really a lot of indication that he did.

If anything, he hypocritically believed the Jedi needed to be more controlling while deciding that it should be less so in situations that involved him.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 22nd 2019 at 10:17:52 AM

I think that article overdramatizes and oversentimentalizes Anakin's plight. Anakin wanted to be a Jedi, he loved Qui-Gon Jinn who was welcoming, affectionate and promised to treat him independently of the Council's dictates. Anakin likewise had authoritarian attitudes and politics. He tells Padme in AOTC that he thinks a strong man should come in and decide and everyone should fall in and that was before "begun, the Clone Wars has".

Edited by Revolutionary_Jack on Mar 22nd 2019 at 10:13:28 AM

One could even make the case that his take was the opposite: we know he perceived the Jedi as basically being absolutely powerful, and saw being a Jedi as being given the keys to that power. As he grew, he became used to doing things as he wanted them regardless of the rules, as we see in The Clone Wars, and every step towards the dark side came from the rare situations where being a Jedi didn’t - in fact - make him as absolutely powerful as he thought he should be, and instead put roadblocks in his life.

Anakin's main motivation and fixation is death. He wants to overcome death and control it, and that leads him to a fixation of power. He lost his first Dad figure (Qui Gon), then his mother, he fears losing his wife and son, his turn to the Dark Side stems partially from a fear of losing Palpatine to Mace Windu, as well as Palpatine's promise to save Padme. And in real psychology, people with a fixation on death and power often resort to becoming people who can kill others or become killers since the only natural way to gain some control on death is be the one who decides who lives or dies. This video explained that (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJBbzmlSaxU).

What becomes clear if you see the movies in order and sequence from Prequel to OT and put to one side all the ideas people have about Vader and focus on the six films. You realize that the Vader in the OT is the same guy in the Prequels. In the prequels, he keeps trying to get the respect of the Jedi Council (in a big circular room all the time similar to the Death Star circular room), in the OT he keeps trying to assert himself to the Imperials and has to defer to Tarkin who is not always impressed with him (hence Tarkin's "this better work, Vader" when he proposes to let the Falcon escape the Death Star with the plans so that they can track them to the home base...that plan backfired spectacularly). In ESB, he tries to plot a coup against Palpatine and it's a pretty incompetent attempt at a coup since it leads to sending one more faction to join the rebels and torturing the guy who he wants to use to take down the Emperor. His own subordinates scoffs at him recruiting bounty hunters. Basically Lucas wasn't going off-script with Anakin in the prequels, he was merely spelling out once and for all that the hero of his franchise was in fact a glorified f—k up and incompetent who to quote the wisdom of Nickelback, "never made it as a wise man, and never made it as a poor man stealing". It's the biggest deconstruction of The Chosen One ever put.

For what it's worth, I can totally imagine a lot of Vader's lines in Anakin/Hayden Christensen's voice. For example: "I find your lack of faith disturbing", "You can dispense with the pleasantries", "You are a member of the rebel alliance and a traitor".

In this light, I actually would say that Anakin in PT is definitely the same character as Vader. They both have the same sort of cockiness and formality in their speech. The problem is probably more that whenever Anakin does something evil in PT he's extremely emotional about it, whereas Vader is very cool-headed.

Vader comes off as cool-headed because he's in that mask and costume and you have Ben Burtt's breathing and James Earl Jones' voice-work but he's fragrantly emotional and petty all the time. I mean the Dark Side is all about emotions right. Like that bit in the carbonite chamber when he initially thinks he got Luke, and then says "too easy", he also has a huge temper problem. Getting out-sassed by Leia in ANH and losing his cool and then barking orders about tearing a place down piece by piece, choking fellow imperials and murdering his subordinates. I tend to think that Lucas sold Vader's redemption in the OT partly by having Vader abuse and kill so many employees it's easy to sell him as a good guy when he kills as many bad guys as he has good guys. He killed Obi-Wan (and again there Obi-Wan was sorta going Suicide by Cop) and Biggs Darklighter but he also killed two officers and sub-commanders in TESB. The real daring thing was the PT and Order 66 where Anakin becomes essentially a school-shooter and somehow you still have some feeling for the horrible mess this guy makes of his life and everyone around him.

Vader's lack of self and agency is kind of reflected in the fact that this guy doesn't have on-screen unity. Like he's never really one person, except for the second and third prequels where he's played by Hayden Christensen (and very well at that). In the case of the OT, you have James Earl Jones voicing him, breathing effects by Ben Burtt, physical performance by Proswe, stunt performance by Bob Anderson (the entire duel between Luke and Vader at Cloud City, not Prowse, but Anderson). And that a good deal of who he is is a costume and mask design. He is essentially a motion picture puppet. Never in control.