Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Sounds like the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon.

And yet another awkward page-topper. Groan.

Edited by Etheru on Apr 9th 2019 at 7:52:10 AM

Honestly, MCU Spider-Man is oddly similar to Ultimate one. He's young, his aunt is young, he's goofier than his previous adaptations, interacts a lot with Marvel characters, gets a lot of gizmos from them, and he wears Expressive Mask.

I admit that I think that Spider-Verse's humor style reminded me of that show.

Although I think Spider-Verse did it a lot better, due to the gags being a lot more fast-paced, and sort of getting into the head of Peter Parker better, with my personal favorite being the part where Peter says he's taking his divorce "like a champ", only to undercut that by the film immediately showing him crying in his bathtub. It's both sort of funny and sad.

I could see something along the lines of Wander over Yonder working for something like that.

It definitely has the vintage “Loony Toons” style and bounciness to it, with lots of squash and stretch and animation smears, but still has a modern flair.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 9th 2019 at 7:25:48 AM

This actually brings up stuff I haven’t seen anyone mention.

First, the bus that Peter B. and Miles take to Alchemex labs, has a stated capacity of 42 people, and exactly 42 seats, which is a neat but inconsequential attention to detail.

The second one, is more interesting, and has to do with how the spider that bit miles got there. Since it’s glitching, the obvious answer is that it came through on one of the test runs of the super collider, right?

But if you start digging, that starts to break down. In a Freeze-Frame Bonus, you can see the super collider connects Earth 616 (Main Marvel Universe), Earth 65 (Spider Gwen’s Universe), Earth 14512 (Peni Parker’s universe), Earth 90214 (Marvel Noir verse), and Earth 8311 (Funny Animal Verse),

The end credit scene seems to imply that it came from Miguel’s Universe (earth 928), so it couldn’t have been from the collider, which begs the question of “how else could have it have ended up in Mile’s Universe.”

Either way, it’s way too weird not to come back in a sequel.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 12th 2019 at 7:57:32 AM

FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON ... SPIDER-VERSE 2!

I remember spitballing an idea to my sister that maybe 2099 is from Miles' future, a little bit of that due to Nueva York's Multiverse designation not being shown, and Alchemax existing.

I admit it doesn't make much sense, though, since it doesn't explain why the spider glitched.

Considering that everyone else is from their normal universes, I'd say that's unlikely.

Awesome Spider-Gwen Fan Animation.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 25th 2019 at 1:55:26 PM

Meta modernism, or how Phil Lord and Chris Miller keep making movies everyone raves about, out of ideas that have no right to work:

The LEGO Movie also follows this philosophy really well, in the way it skewers many of the tropes and cliches in “Chosen One” type plots, but ultimately finds new meaning in them, in that although the prophesy ultimately ends up being made up, Emmett becomes “The Special” by virtue of being put in the position of every one thinking he is.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 13th 2019 at 4:44:48 AM

This but it's Spider-Noir hoping Peni goes on to kick as many men in the groin as she can.

Its amazing how much I hate the comic this was based off of and how much I love this movie.

You like it because the comic?

ITSV is based on a number of comics, it borrows the title from Spider-Verse but in terms of plot and characterization it draws from Brian Michael Bendis' Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 3 and Bendis written crossovers Spider-Men I and II. Bendis was a major consultant all the way through the mvie.

Into the Spider-Verse doesn't feature a scene where Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends are slaughtered by the Big Bad just for shock value, so it's automatically better by default.

That sounds cool.

I wonder what the plot of the sequel will be. I can’t imagine we’ll get a straight adaptation of the comic, for obvious reasons, but I wonder if we’ll get some sort of very loose adaptation, with some type of existential threat to all the spider-people or something.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 16th 2019 at 7:45:05 AM

My expectation is that producers will build on what worked in ITSV and expand on that. The popular villain was Liv Octopus, she is established as someone who knows this interdimensional science well, so have her be the main bad guy, you know have her set-up the Interdimensional Sinister Six, since you can build on what was set-up in the first film without doing any additional exposition, and you have a villain people liked to see and want to see more of. IIRC there was a story in Spider-Man titles of Dr. Octopus leading the Sinister Six in an adventure where they massacred an alternate universe. I think it was Erik Larsen's Revenge of the Sinister Six where the Sinister 6 decide to really level up. So you have precedent. The only problem is that...I think the MCU is doing the Sinister Six in their films, and I think there's going to be issues of not directly stepping on toes there. So maybe they'll do something else, but keeping Liv Octopus as the villain shouldn't be a problem because my guess is that the MCU will make Michael Keaton's Vulture the leader of the MCU Six because it's simpler, cleaner, big star, and popular villain rather than introduce a new MCU Octopus who has to live up to Molina's performance and somehow escape Keaton's shadow.

People liked alternate Spiders, so introduce more of that. Make Miles and Spider-Gwen the co-leads. Spider-Ham will be there as will Miguel O'Hara. Spider-Man Noir was perfectly used in ITSV and at this point I want to see a spinoff of him rather than more of him in ITSV. And I think Peter B's story pretty much closed and stopped. Maybe they can have him show up as an older character (since time I think passes differently in different dimensions) and introduce his daughter Spider-Girl.

Did not mean to triple Post. Not sure how that happened.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 16th 2019 at 8:03:39 AM

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 16th 2019 at 7:57:34 AM

Although not reduced to a total joke, this version of Spider-Noir is so much of an over the top parody of the genre (he’s basically Nick Cage Nick Cage-ing himself), that the only way I could really seeing him carrying his own movie, is if you went the way of the The LEGO Batman Movie.

I just realized, the meta joke in the end credits scene, of why Lila had to update Miguel O'Hara on the events of the movie.

Guess what else was slightly less than two hours?

Thanks. I didn’t mean to that.

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 16th 2019 at 8:21:52 AM

I think your edit button glitched out and triple-posted, bruh

I saw this on the character page for Kingpin, so I was wondering if you guys think the spider that bit Miles came from the Super-Collider, or somewhere else?

It probably came from Miguel O'Hara's dimension, but as I pointed out before, it was not one of the universes the collider connected when we saw the test runs.

Their first test is a tiny super collider and a spider wandered into it, thus it pulls in a spider from another universe, albeit an irradiated one.

I wanna see May Reilly a.k.a the Steampunk Lady Spider.

Everything wrong with Spider-Verse (not a lot apparently)

Edited by megaeliz on Apr 23rd 2019 at 12:20:49 PM