This will be interesting. I am going to presume that the movies main reason to avoid having a lot of Deadpool team ups is going to be much like the comic's - everyone finds the guy too irritating to work with.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."I wonder if Deadpool 1 and 2 happened in the time between snaps.
It's been 3000 years…I hope they retain the same actors (except TJ Miller).
So that’s why the mansion was always so empty.
The problem there is that the X-Men are well-established heroes in the first two films, and mutants are public knowledge.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but going that route won't be an easy fit. Personally, I'd prefer if either a) they were separate universes Deadpool could travel between or b) go the Broad Strokes route and pretend the X-Men are not a part of the MCU yet. Of course if you go with option b, you lose Colossus, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, and many others.
I know, Deadpool could make a joke about it, but the MCU is mostly good with the film continuity, so I'd like to see that same amount of care for bringing in Deadpool. Maybe have Deadpool give a run-down at the beginning where he says "Okay, now that I'm in the MCU, here's what is and isn't canon now. Don't like it? Too bad, my ass now belongs to Disney".
I feel like Deadpool and any of his entourage is gonna pop up in the stinger to the Dr. Strange movie.
It's been 3000 years…They probably won’t do it, but if Negasonic and Yukio are there, there needs to be at least one Banned in China joke.
Fo X-Men continuity is such a mess, that alone could be a joke. Heck, Deadpool has already joked about the continuity ("Mc Avoy or Stewart? These timelines can get so confusing"), I could see him acknowledge how he and his cast are the only ones to survive the reboot, while everyone (even his cast) just think he is crazy.
Take it a step further and insert him in every important moment of the MCU, Forrest Gump style. Final battle against Thanos? He was there. Battle of New York? He was there. Getting thirsty for Steve Rogers after the success of the super soldier experiment? He was there.
> So that’s why the mansion was always so empty
I just pictured Deadpool going back to manor only to find the mansion missing,like the building is physically gone
"They really need to hurry up build the mansion already and get the xmen,this spot is kinda empty"
New theme music also a boxThe second movie has some cameos basically avoiding him in the mansion
Forever liveblogging the AvengersYou know, that cameo's even funnier if you think about too much. Despite over 40 years separating Deadpool 2 and X-Men: Days of Future Past, the X-Men are still played by 20-30 year olds. One would chock it up as a cheap joke, but the films themselves back this up with no attempts to age the actors up in Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.
Mutants age beautifully.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Dec 28th 2019 at 5:41:05 AM
Deadpool & Wolverine | Trailer
Oh, it's an official one this time, is it Ryan? Well, let's see what's going on here...
Wonder how long Hugh Jackman has been waiting to be able to have Logan swear properly. Oh, and stab people in the dick. Licensing "Like a Prayer" is just cheating, though.
Feige said cocaine was off-limits, did he? What a shame, what a shame. Oh, the trailer? Yeah, it's pretty good. Who is this villain who looks like a cross between the Ancient One and Magneto?
[deep breath before comic nerds lore dump in the thread]
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:54:40 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Villain is Xavier's sister, Cassandra Nova. She was a big bad in the 2000s and was responsible for the Genosha massacre
Edited by Zarius on Apr 22nd 2024 at 6:54:52 AM
I will never get tired of all the shots these movies make at Liefeld.
"Liefeld's: Just Feet"
One of the shots features a giant Ant-Man corpse that people are apparently using as a base. What. The. Fuck. Obviously, this is set in the Void with all the pruned timelines.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Looks good. Emma Corrin's character looks fun, and I like how this looks to very much be a dramedy, the grand finale of the X-men film series deserves to be taken at least a bit seriously. Hopefully they manage the tone like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, a mix between light-hearted and fun and dark and serious.
It is fitting that the franchise ends with a film with Wolverine as the co-protagonist. He is the most well loved character and the most iconic. That said, the reason I stopped watching the series after the first X-men film was due to his prominence (that apparently continues through most, if not all, of the franchise). I enjoyed the first film, but it introduced this cool school full of interesting characters with interesting powers and the conflict between two older, badass mutants, the villain of the duo having sympathetic motives, and both performed masterfully, and then the film focused on, in my view, the most generic character (Wolverine). And the reason I didn't mind it too much was the nice father-son bond between him and Rogue, and apparently that's not even in the next films much. And it did allow him to play audience surrogate, but that's also not necessary after the first film. Don't get me wrong, I see how people love him, and I'm sure I would enjoy the rest of the franchise, but I wish it was more equally distributed. I get that, usually, team films have a 'protagonist' (such as Starlord in Guardians) but I just found Wolverine much less interesting than other characters (such as Rogue or even Xavier) who could have played that role.
Still, the trailer looks great and I can't say I dislike Wolverine (Jackman is amazing in the role and elevates it beyond generic).
Edited by king15 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:35:38 PM
That looks great.
I like to keep my audience riveted.Well.
I do worry this is getting a little too meta to be enjoyable. Yes Deadpool's that character but I gave She Hulk crap for the KEVIN thing, and now in this movie there seems to be less of a plot and more a single page of dialogue that reads "hey look Hugh Jackman's back isn't that amazing."
What I liked about Deadpool 1 was that the fourth wall breaks didn't feel obnoxious and Wade was legitimately as funny as he was tragic. Deadpool 2 I liked a little less and the meta humor didn't hit the same way. That whole sequence in the X-Mansion lost my attention, I didn't like the reuse of Wade's brain injury hallucination as a joke, or the twist ending of him using time travel to visit Ryan Reynolds - the meta humor went from being a strength of the film pushing boundaries I never thought a comic book film would push to a weakness holding up what might be a pretty average superhero team-up film.
All I needed was Wade's sideways glance and the line "Pegging isn't new for me... but it is for Disney." All I needed was that shadow of Wolverine standing over Wade, Wade rudely asking for a hand up, and Logan replying by sticking out his claws while facing away from the camera. If we'd stopped there, I'd have everything I needed to want to see this.
This all was a bit much and I didn't laugh until the very end with the cocaine joke. I feel like they used up the good jokes and the setups for them in both trailers, and now the obligatory Deadpool vs Wolverine fight sequence isn't going to feel special to me. I won't go "wow so that's Hugh Jackman in the classic costume" or wonder what a fight between him and Wade would look like - it's all there in the trailer.
The one part that got a smirk out of me was Wolverine subtly daring Deadpool to shoot him in the face - we know, he knows, and Wade probably knows that pointing a gun to Logan's head isn't really a threat to him. See, I'd have put that by itself as a nod to people who know the character's abilities rather than actually show them fighting or Logan shanking Wade in the balls.
There's not much else they can really do with Jackman or Reynold's portrayals of these characters to make them do anything but nostalgically stand out - except make them actually be a couple and turn the homoerotic subtext on its head. Making this Wolverine be gay or bisexual is legit 'the only thing that would surprise me at this point because he's hit every other thing we'd expect from the character in the marketing for this movie, and there'd be an easy explanation for it because this is another Wolverine from some other universe with an unknown backstory beyond "he f-cked up." And Wade? It's easier to count the number of guys he hasn't had a homoerotic interaction with.
But let's be real, they're probably not doing that.
I'm not sure if the Ancient One-looking chick is supposed to be a female variant of Magneto or not, or another character entirely. Also I guess we're riffing Old Man Logan due to the giant skull of who I assume was Ant Man... but I guess this is an MCU-ified take since Logan already happened and we didn't get the huge, post-apocalyptic superhero setting with MCU memorabilia lying around last time.
This feels like it might be the Matrix Resurrections of the Deadpool saga, a Fix Fic that's not offensive, not as conclusive as Revelations yet not as polarizing as Reloaded, and still not as good as the first one.
I guess we'll see when this comes out. Maybe I'm just Marvel Comics'd-out and not as chipper for this as I thought I would be and it ends up being the funniest Deadpool yet.
Edited by FOFD on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:20:54 PM
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).Alright, so let me see if I can guess at the plot. Folderizing spoilers to avoid the formatting hassle.
We know from previously released material that Wade is down on his luck, working a blue-collar job, and the TVA snags him because they want him to fix something wrong with the timelines.
I'm not totally up to speed on the FoX-Men timelines but the Logan here is one who blew it badly and got most if not all of the X-Men killed. Wade's "job" is to recruit that version of Wolverine to help him repair/reset/reboot/migrate the Fox timeline(s) and bring everything into the MCU.
Cassandra Nova appears to be building a power base of pruned mutants in the Void — sort of a corrupted anti-X-Men — using that Ant-Man body as her base of operations. I'm going to guess that her grand plan is to break out of the Void and go ham on the rest of the multiverse.
It's not clear to me if Wolvie and Redhead will turn the tables on the TVA or if they're fighting corrupted Minutemen. Or perhaps this variant of the TVA is working for Cassandra, which might explain the different uniforms and overall visual style.
Actually, that's it. Cassandra is mind-controlling them. Nailed it! We'll soon see if I'm right.
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 22nd 2024 at 12:24:19 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I was not expecting to see Wolverine being sleeveless just like his comic counterpart and Ant-Man corpse being there. Also, what are your guys' thoughts on Emma Corrin portraying Professor Xavier’s Evil Twin Cassandra Nova so far as someone who didn't read X-Men comics?
Edited by Bubblepig on Apr 22nd 2024 at 12:12:21 PM
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”My first impression was that she was a ripoff of The Ancient One from Doctor Strange. Never heard of Cassandra Nova before.
It's a good thing that reaction and breakdown videos are so eager to explain this stuff, or I'd be stumped.
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:36:38 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I see the title of this film and keep thinking of them doing the Sonic & Knuckles title screen image.
I wondered whether she might not turn out to be Magneto's daughter, given what she did with Wolverine in the trailer. ^^;
Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Apr 22nd 2024 at 10:21:35 AM
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"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
It's official.
Deadpool 3 is OFFICIALLY happening at Marvel Studios.
Addendum: Emma Watts, former president of production at Fox and producer for the first two movies, will not be involved with Deadpool 3.