Since we've gotten told to stop talking generally about religion twice in the Homosexuality and Religion thread and were told that, if we want to talk generally about religion, we need to make a new thread, I have made a new thread.
Full disclosure: I am an agnostic atheist and anti-theist, but I'm very interested in theology and religion.
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edited 9th Feb '14 1:01:31 PM by Madrugada
Invoking my own version of "I am not a lawyer" disclaimer here in that I am not a Greek mythology scholar, but yes, I believe that was a big reason why. Athena is/was often attributed traits that were seen as masculine, which made her "one of the good ones" or "not like other women." Because she was born fully formed from Zeus's head, she had no mother and thus was free of "womanly aspects."
It's been fun.
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Don't forget that Athena is famously a virgin goddess (Artemis is another famous one) which also helps to separate her from any other feminine qualities.
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
My new favorite mythological creature: the Boobrie
! A giant semi-aquatic bird "larger than seventeen of the biggest eagles put together" with a beak a foot and a half in length, a neck three feet long, wings better suited for swimming than flying, and webbed feet with gigantic claws and a footprint "the span of a large wide-spreading pair of red deer's horns". It terrorized ships and stole livestock off them to eat.
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Hey, I have a random Classical Mythology question that will help me with some cleanup on one of the characters page for it. (We don't have a forum dedicated to that kind of thing like we so some other media.)
Odysseus is listed among the "Named Demigods/Immortals" section. However, I can't find any reason for that. In his own Badass Normal entry, it clearly states that "Odysseus isn't a demigod". Looking into it, his parents are mortals, with his only connection to divinity being that his maternal great-grandfather in Hermes. Figures that far removed aren't typically considered divine. He did have the favor of Athena during the Trojan Cycle, but that also shouldn't qualify him.
I'm thinking he should be moved down to the "Mortals" section but wanted to run it by a few knowledgeable others first. TIA for any input!
Edited by BeerBaron on Sep 29th 2022 at 9:01:32 AM
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Kind of nice that his granddad was helping him out when he got to Circe’s island, though. :)
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So I just watched a video revealing that a bow from Genealogy of the Holy War (Ichevahl IIRC) actually end up mistaken as an actual norse bow and end up getting referenced in Symphogear and two western video games. Between that, the infamous Brionac and how there is an arthurian myht where the good ol' king actually had a sword belonging to Heracles (Marmydose IIRC) . I'm not wanting to ask about other weapons that were claimed or mistaken to be from a given mythology but turned out to be complete fabrications.
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Continuing the discussion about Greek mythology, I didn't think about this until I came across it on the One-Gender Race page. Everybody knows and loves the Amazons, but practically nobody outside of groups who study mythology know about their male counterparts, the Gargareans.
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A society of all men is a lot less interesting to...certain kinds of people, especially one that only seems to exist in the mythology because they'd kind of have to. The people who'd focus on them almost certainly got distracted by the Spartans instead.
Edited by Zendervai on Sep 30th 2022 at 10:18:46 AM
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Don't give Zack Snyder any ideas.
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Your semi-regular reminder that the Spartans were actually pathetic losers who only lasted as long as they did because of their crazy number of slaves, but they spent most of their time putting down constant slave revolts and repeatedly sacking one specific village in their attempts to invade Athens because they were so fucking bad at logistics that they couldn't make it more than a week outside their territory without support from other city-states without running out of supplies and having to give up. And that one village happened to be right on the line of where they could reach in the direction of Athens.
Edited by Zendervai on Sep 30th 2022 at 2:09:10 PM
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And then one of Alexander's sub-commanders reduced them into total irrelevancy (they had already stopped being a big deal in the region for quite a while) so hard that their city became a backwater tourist trap afterwards, as an afterthought.
Edited by Kardavnil on Sep 30th 2022 at 11:14:35 AM
Roll a Constitution saving throw to make it through the year.
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, You reading Bret Devereaux's posts on Sparta too?
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just quote their post when you have to use that many arrows
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...I was responding to two different people, one two posts before mine, one three posts up. That's not that many.
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> They had tourist traps back then? surprised
Yeah,but they called them 'pilgrims' and liked selling supposed holy relics to them
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Even before that. The Roman Empire at its height had a ridiculously big tourist industry for the time, with people from Rome going to visit every corner of the Empire. Bath in England was a popular destination, for example. It even reached down to Rome's equivalent of the middle class.
Sparta is just really funny because it was like...the one part of the Empire where their entire economy ended up built around re-enacting their rituals and practices for visitors...99% of whom were on their way to or from Athens or Thessaloniki and were stopping in Sparta for a day or two.
x4 Yep.
Edited by Zendervai on Oct 1st 2022 at 1:14:41 PM
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Watching Trilogy of Terror made me think of this. When it comes to voodoo - or in this case the Hollywood version of it - it just starts and ends with the dolls and sticking pins in them. None of the other parts even get acknowledged.
Flora is the most beautiful member of the Winx Club. :)
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Didn't the Witch Doctor aesthetic have its origins in Hollywood Voodoo as well?
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@Ayasugi: Yep, his blog makes for great reading 
That's the one. thanks for the correction.