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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
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That's pretty good.
the Retromancer
The Video Game: Pikmin meets The Lord of the Rings meets Gremlins.
Suggestion:
A revived Evil Overlord has to subjugate/destroy the land by making his squads of gremlins solve puzzles and slash anyone who stands in the way.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Looks good.
Also, the pointless redirect laconic should be cut, considering it's just pointing to a laconic on a different page.
the Retromancer
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Seems Laconic.The Aeneid is changed to a correct but an unwitty description by ~Aeon 1337 without a prior discussion.
It was changed from this:
.to this:
I brought back the original in its commented out form as a placeholder.
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🍊orange fursona🧡
Bump.
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The new one is better. It gets the same info across while treating it more seriously.
🍊orange fursona🧡
Fair enough. Hopefully it needs to be shorter with the same sweetness.
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Laconic.Villainous Breakdown has been having more and more words gradually added to it by ~Alex The Play Station Boy and is getting sort of silly.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
the Retromancer
They are actually going against previous consensus according to page history, so it may not be silly.
Edited by Amonimus on Aug 11th 2023 at 4:21:09 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
She / Her
I honestly think it should be reverted to this version, partly because of.
Laconic.Absurdly Youthful Mother mentions it just applies to mothers when it actually applies to parents regardless of gender. Can I make that change?
Yes. (The trope probably needs renaming.)
She / Her
Thank you.
the Retromancer
Laconic.Repeating Ad: "Seeing that one commercial over and over and over again."
Sounds misleading, it should be "The same ad or product appears more than once within the same commercial break".
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
She / Her
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Laconic.Alas Poor Villain states it can involve a villain's demise. However, the main page states it's a Death Trope. Can I remove that detail?
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Thanks.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Aug 21st 2023 at 9:38:11 AM
I'm a bit confused, to be honest. "death or demise" is just a redundancy because "demise" does mean "death". I agree it's a death trope, but the "demise" can be removed on the grounds of redundancy.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
the Retromancer
I don't think the second part is needed. But I can elaborate further.
Laconic.Clutch Cargo is complaining. Can I remove the "one of the worst animation techniques ever" bit?
I'd like to apologize for all this.
just the first sentence is fine, imo. But a little extra about who you are doesn't hurt, either.
Edited by Tabs on Aug 20th 2023 at 11:10:04 AM
Lucas the Dreamer
The laconic for Holy Terror is very complainy. Anyone got a replacement?
The laconic for Our Minotaurs Are Different only says "Minotaurs and other bovine humanoids."
I thought this was a case of the laconic being lacking, because the name made me think the trope was about non-traditional depictions of minotaurs... But looking at the trope description, it seems to be about any work that features a bovine humanoid, which feels like chairs.
I wanted to ask if this is a case where just the laconic should be rewritten or if this is something that should be taken to TRS.
Oh yeah, I've always thought that those Our Monsters Are Different tropes are chairs. The counterargument I've heard is that they're fictional so their inclusion has to be deliberate, but deliberate =/= significant. I really think almost everything in that index needs TRS work.
the Retromancer
I think the proper laconic would be "Bull-men are brutal warriors, usually." because that's what the definition is going for. Is it chairs is not for this thread.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Edited to add:
You know, the Foil page sums up the trope as follows:
Maybe we should just use that?
Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 6th 2023 at 11:02:14 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.