Recommendations for Perusal by 5P

Ohgod, ohlordy... Thirty Hs is being scrutinized...

Oh, the poor, poor bastards*

I mean, there's planet raping. With a fucksowrd chainsaw electric guitar. Made of the menstrual blood of a billion headless virgins in hell. Or something...

EDIT: Okay, according to the article, "Nobody ever actually gets raped over the course of the story.", despite there not be a rape ape but the Rape Ape, and Rape Radbury. I couldn't tell, myself, I just can't keep my concentration up... or my eyes tear-free, for that matter...

edited 26th Apr '12 11:09:23 AM by TheHandle

I'm pretty sure Showgirls is safe because it was made for Mainstream American audiences right?

I'm pretty sure that Thirty Hs is too nonsensical to qualify as porn.

Please, that fic is a literary achievement of monumental value.

You're kidding, right?

Right?

I have to agree with Lu. There's just too much awesome contained in such a minimalistic writing style.

Getting back to what this thread is supposed to be about:

Defense for VisualNovel.Kichiku Megane (this applies only to the main game, I haven't seen the R spinoff):

• The game has a considerable amount of fairly explicit (full-body nudity but no genitalia) and often abusive sex, but the plot routes are primarily relationship dramas. Like most visual novels it's light on interactivity and most of the "action" is talking-heads rather than doing badass things, but playtime is largely about conversations with the love interest, finding out about their backstories, and your internal monologue. It's admittedly quite dark; the plots usually start with some kind of Non Con and most of the bad ends feature murder.

@Japanese Teeth: It's humor porn, made to titillate your zygomatic muscles. And perhaps your sphincters, because I am on the verge of pissing myself with laughter...

@Lu and Encrypted: hug me my brothers!

Sorry. Derail over. I'll just go laugh on my own a little.

edited 26th Apr '12 11:14:02 AM by TheHandle

I most definitely am not.

@whale: I'm not sure Showgirls was made for anybody; before the much-needed negativity crackdown, the description made a point of explaining how godawful it was.

But it doesn't succeed as porn, and has a plot.

Am I wrong for having enjoyed the movie, then? It's not like I'd allow my kids to see it, of course, but I didn't find it that horrifying.

I'd like to add a defense for Monster Girl Quest. Now, I'll be the first to admit that it has heavy H content. The issue comes with the plot. In fact, the H scenes are usually found in the game's dozens of bad endings. If you avoid the bad endings, there are only about 5 H scenes in a ~5-10 hour game. The premise is a bit alienating as well, but for an H game it has a pretty deep plot.

If anybody else has any input, go right ahead.

edited 26th Apr '12 11:24:07 AM by Augustine

Fighteer is on the side of lenience?

Looking at that list, didn't AMV Hell Zero contain hentai and such? I'm just asking, I never saw it.

I would recommend erring on the side of prohibiting H-Games. If something is written for the erotic market, that alone can be considered criteria for being removed, if you ask me-assuming, of course, it doesn't have a bleached underpants rendition that's clean.

I mean, Akane-Iro seems like a good example.

AMV Hell Zero was nothing but porn, as I recall.

edited 26th Apr '12 11:26:19 AM by TheyCallMeTomu

In defense of Comics Nix, his works are so transparently intended as parody & designed to embody Refuge in Audacity and Crosses the Line Twice, that it might merit the kind of slack extended to works like Drawn Together, Strangers With Candy, and The Aristocrats.

AMV Hell 0 and Divided by Zero were both porn. The 3, 4, and 5 are all okay, as far as I know. Just rewrite the page to be about those.

@Fighteer: It's So Bad, It's Good, at least.

@The Handle: My feelings as to what I find personally acceptable and what I think is appropriate for TV Tropes are different things. There are works I enjoy that I would never want to write an article on. I'm approaching this with a sympathetic eye toward people who like the works themselves, but not towards people who would make excuses to trope about them.

And there are some things that I find absolutely reprehensible and would never willingly watch or write about. But my personal preferences are not the point. I do not, for the record, think that Showgirls should be cut, but I can appreciate the reasons for recommending it.

edited 26th Apr '12 11:34:27 AM by Fighteer

It got a cinema release, that kinda implies it was made for someone.

Wow, dude, don't go Quasar on us, I just meant to do some gentle teasing. I'm sorry, okay?

As for AMV Hell Zero and so on, should we keep a mention that they exist?

We mods are a bit touchy on these subjects ATM. We've been dealing with trolls, flames, and whining for days. Add in tone being difficult to tell on the Internet, and...

Just trying to keep the conversation on track. I enjoy the digressions but want to set a good example. No hard feelings.

edited 26th Apr '12 11:56:32 AM by Fighteer

I would think that off-hand references to pornish works are fine, so long as they don't have their own pages (and don't take up dominate space on a page).

Remember-the wiki doesn't want to be an index of porn.

edited 26th Apr '12 12:01:46 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

I'd say references to porn are fine. We aren't trying to wipe the thought off the map, we're just unable to trope it.

Woot, 1000 posts! @___@

edited 26th Apr '12 12:03:21 PM by lu127