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Mar 17th 2012 at 6:01:48 AM

No Periods, Period was supposed to cover the phenomenon whereby periods don't show up or get mentioned in ficion. The article contains hundreds of examples in which periods do, in fact, show up or get mentioned in fiction.

This is the exact problem we had with Nobody Poops, and we voted near unanimously to strip all aversions from the page. We should do that here too.

Except No Period Period takes the problem up to a whole new level. It not only invites users to list every reference to menstruation they can think of - it begins by trying to categorize the "aversions" into 6 types, explaining each with up to four subpoints.

This page seems to think that it's a page for Periods, rather than the omnipresent trope of no periods. Or it thinks it's an index for unwritten tropes about periods.

Should it be?

edited 1st Jul '12 6:27:37 AM by Routerie

Mar 17th 2012 at 6:05:58 AM

I absolutely despise tropes that say "This Never Happens" and then goes on to list scores or even hundreds of examples of it happening.

Sounds like this needs to be turned into an index for tropes related to signification uses of menstruation in fiction.

edited 17th Mar '12 6:57:34 AM by Catbert

Mar 17th 2012 at 9:08:03 AM

Wow, it's like the missing supertrope was actually written into the middle of the article.

I think this needs a cleaned up description. — And no examples, this trope is really only obvious in the aggregate.

edited 17th Mar '12 9:08:38 AM by pawsplay

Mar 17th 2012 at 10:34:06 AM

Unless we can find some examples of lampshading no one mentioning periods, maybe we should send Menstruation Taboo back to YKTTW. Because it's nowhere close to omnipresent - thousands of works mention menstruation, though only when they have reason to so the page would be kind of pointless unless we have examples of some kind.

Meanwhile, the hundreds of wicks pointing to No Periods Periods all seem to want to link to Menstruation Occurs. Maybe we should leave No Periods, Period as a redirect for or Menstruation Tropes index, and split the current examples into separate pages.

edited 17th Mar '12 10:34:25 AM by Routerie

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil
Mar 17th 2012 at 1:51:54 PM

I think there might be an idea to create an index for Menstruation Tropes, and have some subtropes like Missed Menstruation Pregnancy Scare, Puberty Menstruation, Menstrual Menace, Moon Menstruation Metaphor, and maybe other things. I'm just pulling stuff out of the air, no research on what exists, though. Like that Pregnancy Scare YKTTW that seemed failed in the launch. I don't know anything about something like that existing, no sire.

edited 17th Mar '12 1:52:31 PM by Feather7603

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Mar 17th 2012 at 1:53:48 PM

Most of the current examples would fit under a Period Problems trope.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Mar 17th 2012 at 2:29:11 PM

I like Period Problems as a supertrope with some of the other dozen tropes mentioned in the trope description as subtropes.

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Mar 17th 2012 at 2:50:29 PM

[up]Yeah I agree there.

Lets see

Directly deals with Pregnancy

the others

I do not get the whole "A setting with werewolves contains a brief reference to "times of the month". This connection is sometimes explored. " thing but umm yeah.

edited 17th Mar '12 3:17:39 PM by Raso

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!
Mar 17th 2012 at 5:49:01 PM

[up][up]I like that idea. It also greatly reduces the risk of contributors including, say, casual references to periods and saying that it's an "example." (Of what, exactly?)

[up]That's a good list. Menstural Menace, curiously enough, is not about PMS mood swings (which is in YKTTW right now). It's about menstrual cramps as a psychic indicator or trigger of supernatural stuff.

edited 17th Mar '12 5:49:14 PM by Routerie

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Mar 17th 2012 at 11:14:34 PM

[up]That is not what the No Periods, Period claims it is really..... I mean PMS "monster" can mean a lot of other things.

edited 17th Mar '12 11:18:21 PM by Raso

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Mar 22nd 2012 at 6:47:49 AM

Crowner pasted to thread.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from a place
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Apr 8th 2012 at 6:59:02 PM

So now we have to:

Is that right?

edited 8th Apr '12 6:59:14 PM by Routerie

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
May 10th 2012 at 9:54:22 AM

This has been sitting idle for a month and still has work left to do.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Relationship Status: Less than three
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May 10th 2012 at 12:51:19 PM

What does Period Problems need to have on it? I'll be happy to put something up.

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peccantis the flies will find you Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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May 10th 2012 at 1:42:44 PM

No Periods, Period is being misused for pot/sinkholes pretty much every time periods in any flavour are mentioned on the wiki, so a wiki check / clean-up will be needed.

before the darkness arrives
May 10th 2012 at 3:10:13 PM

This should be renamed, so it stops becoming an alternative pothole instead of what it should be.

edit: found the trope I wanted. Is still easily mixed up with Wall of Text?

edited 10th May '12 3:17:55 PM by spacemarine50

May 19th 2012 at 2:47:22 PM

should I make a YKTTW about the very special period episode?

May 19th 2012 at 3:05:43 PM

First, see if the trope already exists. Also, has anything been done here in a while?

edited 19th May '12 3:06:11 PM by spacemarine50

May 19th 2012 at 6:01:56 PM

No, it does not. BTW Lost and Found bothers me. People want that exact trope, not to shoehorn.

May 22nd 2012 at 10:40:51 PM

I'd like to propose that this trope page be redesigned so that only aversions, subversions, justified examples and other non-straight examples are listed. This seems to be one trope that is so close to being universal that the exceptions are more noteworthy than the straight examples.

May 23rd 2012 at 3:21:17 AM

Aversions/subversions of what? Of the absence of periods? That's how it is now. But since "no periods" is anything but universal, that left us with hundreds of examples of plots involving periods.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil
May 23rd 2012 at 7:23:56 AM

And, "someone has a period and something happens," is not a trope in itself. "Someone has a period for a specific narrative reason" can be a trope, though, if you add what that reason is in the trope description.

edited 23rd May '12 7:25:41 AM by Feather7603

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Jul 10th 2012 at 10:24:11 AM

Aaand idle for over a month again. Does this need to be shelved?

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

Page Action: No Periods Period
22nd Mar '12 6:26:51 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
No Periods Period is ostensibly about the absence of periods in fiction but instead tries to list all appearances of periods in fiction.

(The following options are mutually exclusive. Feel free to add your own mutually exclusive options.)

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