Fixing zero context examples

Commented out a lot of zces on Absurdly Cool City.

Augustos was created and solely edited by a troper who hasn't been active since 2012, with the exception of a very minor grammar fix by another troper (to change "their's" to "theirs"), otherwise the page has remained the way it is since 2012. The source code of the page shows that tropes aren't formatted properly (since they don't use Wiki Words). I doubt the page can be saved.

Edited by Shadow8411 on Aug 3rd 2021 at 11:12:18 AM

Boobs Ahoy ^note  even the title is just... what?

Permission to euthanize this thing? Beyond saving would be an Understatement.

Yes please. Also, all those ZCEs used to be commented out. But in 2017, someone came along and uncommented them out without providing anymore context.

Edited by Shadow8411 on Aug 5th 2021 at 9:07:36 AM

Considering how much webcomics get brought up here, should someone make a cleanup for them?

Maybe, if problems are that bad.

Wrestling.Ravens Nest is mostly ZCEs. Found it when clicking "Random Media" over and over to find problematic pages. Is the page salvageable without the ZCEs? I know almost nothing about wrestling so I can't really help.

Strange Little Band is ZCEs all the way down. The last edit was in 2015, but that was to move the page to the correct namespace. The page has existed for over a decade, and at no point did anyone add context to any of the examples (which aren't even alphabetized properly).

Thanks for your help.

Edited by Shadow8411 on Aug 5th 2021 at 12:49:23 PM

We were able to crosswick three valid examples to the page, though perhaps predictably, most of the off-page examples were "this work sure is an example, we promise"-style ZCEs themselves.

For more botched promises: The House Of Craziness.

There's a promise said "Coming Soon"... posted 4 years ago.

ZCE aside, all the weblinks are dead. And after some Google-fu, the work doesn't appear to exist in any medium either.

In that case, grab the scissors.

I'm beginning to notice that most comic/webcomic subpages suffer from ZC Es. Should we make a new thread dedicated specifically to them?

I think their issue is people relying on weblinks to the comic as examples. We have a cleanup for that which is drastically underused.

I found this on YMMV.Daniel Tigers Neighborhood

• Shocking Moments: In "It's Not OK to Hurt Someone", the character who Daniel wants to hurt is Margaret.

This is completely incomprehensible to anyone who doesn't know who Margaret is and why him wanting to hurt her is so shocking. Is it even a genuinely shocking moment to begin with, or is it someone trying to make the show more tense than is actually is?

Looking at the character sheet, Margaret is a his baby sister, and she and Daniel usually get along. Maybe work that into the example?

I'm not exactly sure if it's even really shocking considering how tropers like to shoehorn tropes like these to make it seem more epic than it actually is. Plus I don't think it really matters who he wants to hurt considering the moral of the episode. I also still don't know why Daniel wanted to hurt her for.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 9th 2021 at 10:24:47 AM

Furvilla and Se Rentan Cuartos — the editor(s) who made these apparently believes "quantity over quality". Having nearly a hundred tropes on a single page isn't going to do any good when 70% of them are ZCE, averted, or shoehorns...

Edited by RobertTYL on Aug 9th 2021 at 10:22:31 PM

Found a rather textbook ZCE in YMMV.Word World:

• Uncanny Valley: Enough said.

Currently, it's commented out.

Judging from the page image, it's also a case of "anything weird-looking is uncanny" misuse.

Okay, purging it.

Doing wick cleanup at the moment so I can't fix it myself, but Characters.Wandersong is a mess. Lots of zce, and every mention of Iconic Item just says "character's item".

Characters.Weiss Kreuz

Fuck this page. All of the separate character parts are ZCEs but the organizations have detailed examples.

I went through and commented out (I think) every ZCE while dewicking Trandgender off . Yeah, it's bad. Almost every single entry is gone now, and I don't know anything Characters.Weiss Kreuz so I can't fix it.

This one's a doozy: Roleplay.Resident Evil Roleplaying. Encountered it while going through wicks for something else. At a glance, there ARE enough tropes to keep.

I commented out one ZCE in The Amazing Worldof Gumball that relies on the trope page's image, but the image is a chase scene with little to no context to the trope it's trying to illustrate and the caption is an all-blue Pothole to the now defunct Up To Eleven

• Medium Blending: Just look at the page image and Ben Bocquelet's quote about how he created the show.

The image shows 2D characters and a 3D character in a live action setting. I don't see what it doesn't illustrate.

That said, the entry should be rewritten with context instead of just relying on the page image.