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I have to say that the X Men franchise has been going on for decades. Maybe not as many as the Superman franchise has, but it still has quite a number to it.
One thing I am certain of is that the franchise seems to be subverting Status Quo Is God in recent years. Magneto and Professor Xavier seem to be fading into the background, with Cyclops and Wolverine taking their places. A lot of villains associated to the X-Men have been killed off and have actually stayed dead so far.
All this gives me the general impression that the franchise is trying to reinvent itself. Do you think that's what's going on here?
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I think the writers did a good job of handling the size of Xavier's school during the early 2000s. I liked that there were a bunch of obscure characters with weird powers running around. It made the world feel alive and bustling. Do you have recommendations for a fan of young mutant teams?
That's a great point. In fact, the racism could increase as their numbers making mutants more threatening. Maybe Xavier would have to expand and divide, which would make managing the schools more difficult. A universe without an M-Day could have a lot of possibilities. At least, in my opinion, they handled M-Day right in one way: it effected mutantkind as a whole and forced great changes upon them. It's ripple is still being somewhat felt in today's waters. I appreciate the writers having the guts to stick to something. 
See my post in the other thread for my thoughts and others on the Morrison New X Men run.
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Gambit's getting a series, written by James Asmus and drawn by Clay Mann, both highly-regarded.
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
What's the trope for Inaction Supergirl?
Ever since New X-Men started up (decades ago), they've had a character whose easiest use of her power is Death by Pauli exclusion principle. (Which ought to cause a chemical-level explosion when she releases her target and stops giving the poor sucker the extra quantum number that lets her fit in. Not a nuclear explosion mind you, as a vanishing small number of atomic nuclei will suddenly find themselves overlapping.)
But Kitty is no killer so she very very rarely does this. Instead she's an sneaky action girl rather than a massive body count ninja. She's even kind to robots by scrambling their circuits rather than leaving pebbles of mass destruction behind.
"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Ok I just read Astonishing X-Men. Just. Why. Why make Warbird the homophobe who doesn't like Gay Marraige. She is a fucking alien. All human ceremonies are alien and wrong to her. Just. Literally any other X-Men woulda made more sense. Any other Superhero would have made more sense. Than an alien. Giving Jack Shit. About Gay Marraige.
Okay, yeah. That's just eleven types of stupid.
Ok I jut learned a little more abou the Sh'ar and it makes a little more sense, but still having an earthling be predujiced would make much more sense.
Presumably, Liu just didn't want to show an established character as a homophobe, so picked someone newer, and unlikely to stick around for all that long. Funnily enough, it would've made much more sense to have Aurora being the one who doesn't attend, given that her Jeanne-Marie persona always opposed his homosexuality, and her Aurora personality wasn't always supportive, either. Sometimes she didn't mind, sometimes she seemed bothered by it, though that may have just been because of her general irritation at him at those times.
Anyway, fuck it. The whole thing was a stunt. This was not Liu doing what she felt was the logical next step with Northstar, this was her wanting a gay wedding. She wanted a gay wedding, Northstar's gay and already in a committed relationship, so that's who she used, even though I don't believe for a minute that she actually particularly cares about him as a character. She called him "Jean-Claude" three times in issue 48, the first issue of her AXM run. So it's a little hard to believe she cares. The fact that the fourth issue of her run has the marriage already happening only convinces me even more that this was more about the wedding than the character, and she's just using "Northstar likes fast" as justification.
Again I say fuck it.
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So, there were rumors on the Internets that Brian Bendis is going to take over the X-Men. They've just shed some more light on this today.
It does not appear that Bendis is taking over all the X-Men. He will, however, be writing an all-new X-book, imaginatively titled All-New X-Men, in the wake of AvX. What is this book about? Apparently, the Original 5 X-Men being Timey-Wimey Ball'd to the present.
...wait, wouldn't that be the old X-Men, then?
Also coming up is, as many predicted, a teamup book between the X-Men and the Avengers. It will be written by Rick Remender.
edited 3rd Jul '12 11:19:15 AM by HamburgerTime
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I know CBR's X-forum can be a pretty scary place, I've found one relatively sane and interesting thread: the favorite X-writer countdown! I think it's interesting to see what fan opinions are, and I especially like the fact that, despite all the cries of They Changed It, Now It Sucks! that goes on in comics fandom, most of the top-voted writers are best known (at least among X-Men fans) for Modern Age work, and three of the top five are actually currently writing the X-Men.
On a rather more Squicky note, just when you though there were characters NO ONE would make a Mary Sue for
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(Sorry about the double-post, by the way)
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Here is a preview for the interiors of All New X-Men.
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Well, I have to say that it's funny seeing the original team of X Men brought to the present via time travel. The original Hank looking at his future self with a "What The FLICK?" face really sells it for me. Wait, did they say if the original Hank is going to be his bookworm self or his oafish, sexual-harassment self?
I wonder if they'll has original Scott Summers look at his future self and say something like, "Oh, I'd hate to be you! Wait, I am you, aren't I?" 
edited 23rd Aug '12 7:09:57 AM by TiggersAreGreat
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That "November 7 release" means it will actually be released in November or is it will be out next month?
Why doesn't Wakeawake just put the mutant-cuffs on Firec*h everytime she's popped back into existance? ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
I think that would be the actual release date. So it'll be cover-dated January.
A pity. I want to read it as soon as possible.
That Beast to Beast meeting do seem interesting.
Are both characterization treated as separate? What is the deal of that change, though? Is it a Characterization Marches On or a conscious Character Development? I am not too familiar to early Beast except through a certain blog*]
edited 23rd Aug '12 9:11:51 PM by Heatth
I think the oafish Beast of the first two issues was a Characterization Marches On thing. Stan just hadn't gotten any of the characters down. Although he was still pretty sexist for a while after that. Calling Jean a wench? Seriously, dude? Even in the '60s, I doubt that was cool.
But yeah. Oafish Hank has been disappeared. It was just Early-Installment Weirdness.
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edited 23rd Aug '12 9:33:10 PM by Tiamatty
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It wasn't played out even as a retcon latter? A pitty. That could have been some interesting development
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So, there's this miniseries of which the first issue came out earlier this month, called The First X-Men. I haven't read it, but a lot of people seem to be judging it on its rather Audience-Alienating Premise: Wolverine (of course), not Xavier, was the first person to create a mutant superteam. The cast features Wolverine, Magneto, and two new characters named Bomb and Holo, who, given that this is a miniseries and they're not around in the present, I've affectionately nicknamed Dead Meat 1 and Dead Meat 2. Oh, and Sabretooth. Because he's such a good guy, right? At CBR, they seem to dislike it based on the Audience-Alienating Premise alone, but I've seen it judged more fairly elsewhere. You might like it, Tiamatty, since it's Gage and you like him.
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I haven't virtually touched it at all due to aforementioned Audience-Alienating Premise*. I am waiting for someone else confirm it to be good or relevant before checking it out. Or for it to eventually hit my country.
Have you read it yourself, Burger?
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I said I hadn't.
Well, duh. I think I am particularly dumber than usual today. I think I should go sleep already.
I read the first issue. It's . . . not good. Gage is actually co-writing, along with Neal Adams. Adams, of course, had a pretty big run as artist for X-Men. This mini is his baby, with Gage likely just doing the dialogue. But the art on the first issue was bad, and while the dialogue is decent, the plotting is weak.
So, yeah. This is not shaping up well so far.
There is, however, a fantastic two-page spread at one point. I'll give Adams credit, that spread is gorgeous.
Edit: I actually did give a brief review of it on my blog. I said it's better than I expected. But my expectations were low, on account of the premise. I also criticized the colours, which are, for the most part, awful.
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It also causes quite a bit of a continuity snarl; Gage said he'd be ignoring Loeb's "lupine" crap because it wouldn't make any sense to a reader, but now Loeb's back on Wolverine for one arc and that arc is a sequel to the lupine storyline. Schroedinger's canon?
Loeb has just retconned all that retarded lupine bullshit. Says a lot about how stupid an idea is when even the guy who came up with it comes back later and says, "Oh, yeah, that was pretty bad. Let's get rid of that."
Now, though, Loeb's revealed that the Weapon X program was Logan's idea all along. Because why the fuck not.
How does Loeb keep getting work writing comics? Who the fuck buys his shit?
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