American Dad!

TBS is just sucking up all the tasty cast-offs of network TV, aren't they?

I'm beyond pissed about this. I hope that TBS offers online streaming, otherwise I might have to bite the bullet and get cable (the only cable show producing new episodes that I care about is South Park and that's streamed online for free). Between sports, reality shows, and award shows, Sunday nights are super competitive, so FOX probably isn't going to find anything that brings in bigger ratings. They're only screwing themselves.

I have a sinking feeling that FOX might want to bring The Cleveland Show back for the 2014-15 season. If the amount of promos are any indication, they clearly prefer TCS over AD.

EDIT: Annnnd to rub salt in the wound, AD wasn't nominated for the Emmy this year (while the South Park episode that was nominated was one of the few bright spots of this past season, AD as a whole had a MUCH better season and is overall more deserving of a nomination). I honestly thought that AD was a shoo-in after "Lost in Space".

I was also outraged about American Dad not being nominated for best song (for this), but then I remembered that it wasn't composed for the show. That still doesn't excuse Television Without Pity for snubbing it in their Best Musical Moment category in the Tubeys.

edited 18th Jul '13 9:53:34 AM by redhed311

The Emmy's are crap, they never know what's good, especially for cartoons.

I can't believe that Fox would want to get Cleveland Show back though. No one liked Cleveland Show.

I liked TCS, at least more than Family Guy but not as much as American Dad. On the other hand, I won't be too disappointed if it doesn't come back.

Yeah. The fact The Americans or Hannibal weren't nominated to anything just proves that.

... oh yeah, and American Dad was good too.

I passively enjoy The Cleveland Show at times, and usually watch American Dad when it's not one I've seen a thousand times over. I tend to only tune into Family Guy under the notion it's early reruns now.

edited 18th Jul '13 4:00:52 PM by Psi001

Ehh. I've seen maybe 2 "new" episodes, and they were the ones with Principal whats-his-name - the one where Steve is his tax agent, and where Stan wants to get him married so he can be a Best Man. And compared to some of the earlier episodes, they were shit. Even the theme-park sub-plot with Stan and Francine was horrible in the Steve episode.

AD isn't exactly what it used to be - it's not deteriorated to the same extent as Family Guy, but it's getting there. I infinitely prefer the episode with Andy Dick, if only for the chase sequence with Stan's baby legs.

I'm surprised Adult Swim didn't get the rights to air new episodes.

Oh well, American Dad was really the only show I've been watching on Animation Domination. Simpsons is So Okay, It's Average and Family Guy....yeah I don't like the latest stuff.

Didn't Cleveland get cancelled, or was that a false alarm?

edited 20th Jul '13 9:36:18 AM by Lionheart0

It did get cancelled, but so did Family Guy back in the day and we all know how that turned out. I get the impression that FOX REALLY wanted The Cleveland Show to work out, in part because of its ties to the Cash-Cow Franchise.

edited 20th Jul '13 10:47:38 AM by redhed311

The episode "Daddy Queerest" bothers me, namely in all the flak Stan caught for outing Greg to his father, because Stan didn't out him until after they went through an elaborate farce. If Stan wasn't the designated bad guy, the one to blame for the outing would be the one who came up with the deception in the first place, e.g. Greg and Terry.

Add to that Francine and Greg were vehement Terry tell him in the first place. Sure, Stan did so in a completely inappropriate manner, but it likely had little change on how Terry's homophobic father reacted to the matter, and yet he was still completely to blame for ruining their relationship. All of this was seemingly set up just because Stan didn't put up with Francine's stupid behaviour at a party.

I'm actually kinda put off by the show because of this formula. Stan has to be wrong and learn a lesson each and every episode, which either requires him to act like a completely repugnant tool or for the other characters to get enabled for acting just as bad (and in many cases both). In fact all of Seth's Bumbling Dads do this to some degree (it helps the whole cast are practically Expies for one another). Even the times it seems another character is going to get handed an Aesop the blame tends to get shifted to them or a Double Standard is made (eg. most of Lois and Hayley's episodes). I can actually stand The Cleveland Show a bit more for this since at least sometimes Lampshades the other side is full of crap.

edited 4th Sep '13 5:12:48 PM by Psi001

Although there are episodes where Stan steadfastly refuses to learn a lesson; "Failure is Not a Factory-Installed Option" being one of the earliest and best examples.

That is true, but on average he still shows a much greater capability to accept humility and that he's done wrong than the other characters. Even the very rare times he is the voice of clarity, the other character usually has an Ignored Epiphany, gets what they want anyway so he still ends up the loser of the situation (eg. "Iced Iced Babies", "Office Spaceman", "Stan's Food Restaurant"). Even worse are the aforementioned situations another character acts immoral but manages to switch it all on Stan so he has the moment of humility instead.

It doesn't help that he has suffered increasing Badass Decay and so has more or less become a Straw Loser for the other Smiths.

edited 6th Sep '13 8:08:49 AM by Psi001

This so such, I thought I was the only one that thinks stan is becoming more and more of a door mat, and it is me or is Roger getting away with more crap nowadays?

While he certainly gets off better for being ten times the sociopath Stan is, Roger actually doesn't seem quite as bad as he was in the mid point seasons, which bordered a comedic Complete Monster. He does at least have the odd redeeming moment or a Butt-Monkey role to balance it, or at least the people he screws over are less sympathetic (who didn't want to see him run down those frat boys?).

edited 6th Sep '13 6:07:44 PM by Psi001

So what's the betting pool for how many hours until the Emotional Tourist page is created?

@ Cleveland Show stuff:

This season of Family Guy will have an episode (He’s Bla-ack!) where Cleveland returns to the show, so there's no point in renewing the Cleveland Show if the Brown-Tubbs family is living in Quahog again.

@ Redhead 311:

There's always Watchcartoononline.com. They have every episode of many cartoons and anime. I use it to watch old American Dad! episodes.

edited 2nd Dec '13 3:46:56 PM by Smasher

So Cleveland show is the most successful short run fox animated series so far?

Cleveland Show may seem like a failure when compared to FG and AD, but four seasons is actually a really good run. Good for them!

Yeah, but do they upload new episodes right after they've aired? I want to see the new TBS episodes right away and if they're not streamed online, I'm out of luck. I can't afford to buy cable for only one show.

Too bad the Tubbs contingent won't be left back in Stoolbend. I'm praying that the kids get the Kevin Swanson treatment (I'd be happy with Chuck Cunningham Syndrome, honestly). Donna can be semi-useful as the third member of Lois and Bonnie's group, but the others are dead weight and will only bring the show down.

On another subject, if the AD producers are smart, they'll submit "Independent Movie" to the Emmys this year. It has a lot of things that Emmy voters tend to like and I really think that they're a shoo-in with that episode. It would also be a nice middle finger to FOX for canning them.

edited 4th Dec '13 9:57:50 AM by redhed311

Not RIGHT afterwards, about a day or so.

And the episode will be about a conflict between Lois and Donna.

You do know Kevin came back eventually, right?

edited 3rd Dec '13 7:51:21 PM by Smasher

Yeah but he hardly ever appears and it was like that even before his "death". Cleveland's kids are so unnecessary to Family Guy. They had their chance and viewers just weren't biting.

I'm fine with watching the TBS episodes a day after they air. Thanks for the recommendation.

There's pop-ups and a commercial just before you can play an episode though.

Here's the list of cartoons. I'd imagine they'd get the TBS American Dad! if they get those shows from kids networks.

I love this show and I have been a fan since the beginning. Like South Park before it, it started off with a different formula but became more satirical and clever later on (I prefer the early seasons of South Park in all honesty but I will admit the humor has gotten clever in later seasons).

It's one of the few shows that has also been consistent in quality, actually getting better as seasons pass unlike alot of shows that go on for too long & get stale as they pass (Un-Cancelled Sponge Bob for example).

This season is okay. While it's not as good as the previous seasons, it's still pretty consistent and feels more or less the same to me. I'll be tuning into the Un-Cancelled seasons on TBS for sure.

Bullock is aware that Hayley is great in the sack, has some strange technical expertise, and he's holding criminal charges over her head. With a tiny bit of digging he could find out that she's currently sans spouse. Why isn't he using her in every sense of the word?