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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#376: Jun 10th 2012 at 1:02:30 PM

@Septimus: Testosterone Poisoning is the subject of a wider TRS with Rated M for Manly at the moment. Better wait until the results from that effort are finalized first; there seems to be some intention to do some definition/description overhaul, after all.

edited 10th Jun '12 1:03:44 PM by MarqFJA

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#377: Jun 10th 2012 at 1:07:36 PM

[up]That is exactly why I am making the request here. That paragraph there seems more like a deadweight.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#378: Jun 11th 2012 at 5:44:21 AM

Doubleposting. As it currently stands, Fetish Fuel is far more a historical note than an actual page. Would this be better?

Fetish Fuel is a fan term used as a label for any element of a story that serves to titillate the reader's erotic or obsessional sensibilities.

The term is not limited strictly to what your dictionary would define as a fetish, but it excludes Explicit Content. It stands in pretty well for the word 'fixation', actually. Both of these sentences mean the same thing:

  • "He has a Light Saber fixation."
  • "Light Sabers are his fetish fuel."

Fetish Fuel Station Attendant is an internal subtrope of this. They are Audience Reactions, whose In-Universe and invoked forms are called Fetish and Fanservice respectively.

Please put examples that don't belong into Fetish or Fanservice on Fetish Fuel Wiki.*


"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#379: Jun 20th 2012 at 2:50:45 AM

Bumping to get opinions about [up]

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#380: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:06:10 PM

I don't get how it's become more of a "historical note".

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#381: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:07:53 PM

[up]More than half the page is trivia about the history of Fetish Fuel on TV Tropes. Suffice it to say that I don't expect most people going there to come mostly to read that trivia/meta stuff.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#382: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:09:28 PM

Well, here's a vote from me in favor of your suggestion.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
#383: Jun 23rd 2012 at 1:34:42 AM

I agree, no need to keep all that historical information.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
#384: Jun 23rd 2012 at 8:06:42 AM

I think the general point is a good one, but we probably need to have the historical information somewhere, if only to stem an incessant flow of tropers who haven't been here for a while asking questions like "Hey, where did all the Fetish Fuel stuff go?"

Jet-a-Reeno!
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#385: Jun 23rd 2012 at 8:07:59 AM

[up]It's in the hottip.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#386: Jun 29th 2012 at 11:16:57 PM

Freudian Excuse could stand to lose a few paragraphs or at least brother to explain what the trope is first.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#387: Jun 30th 2012 at 2:37:26 AM

I think that swapping the 1st and 2nd paragraph and rewriting them accordingly would suffice.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#388: Jun 30th 2012 at 8:28:49 PM

Is it just me, or does Yo-Yo Plot Point focus way, way too much on the trope applying to Will They or Won't They??

Edit: On second thought, it has way, way too much of a description, period. Look at that thing.

edited 30th Jun '12 8:30:37 PM by nrjxll

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
#389: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:30:32 AM

Reincarnation could use a good rewrite.

In some places, it's written from an implicitly Japan-centric viewpoint, but there are a bunch of other problems too:

  • "When it's used in a Western series, the greater religious aspects are often ignored." But the description doesn't actually say what the greater religious aspects are - no reference to the Eastern religion reincarnation concepts, etc.
  • "Usually, just like an Identical Grandson, a reincarnated person looks exactly like their previous self...." Really? Is that true either in the religious/mystical interpretations, or in stories?
  • The description doesn't even give a basic definition of "reincarnation," and indeed uses the term in the first sentence with the assumption that the reader knows what it means.

Tangential unrelated(?) question: Did we used to have a trope called Karmic Resurrection? If so, what happened to it? Was it renamed to Reincarnation? That might explain some of the oddities of the description.

Jet-a-Reeno!
Wii Since: May, 2010
#390: Jul 1st 2012 at 11:41:04 PM

I think Walking Swimsuit Scene could use a fair bit of help. The description is pretty bareā€¦ which is fitting, I guess, but not really good form.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#391: Jul 6th 2012 at 12:50:44 PM

Not sure if this has been brought up before, but the description on Blasphemous Boast makes it look like it's about a stock phrase. TRS decided it should be any time someone makes a boast comparing self or someone/thing else to a deity (which would make Bigger Than Jesus a Sub-Trope, not a compare trope), and the description needs to reflect that.

edited 6th Jul '12 12:51:15 PM by DragonQuestZ

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#392: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:56:48 PM

Something needs to be done about the Real Life chit-chat in Jail Bait's description. And by "needs to be done" I mean that if I have to do it, I am just going to blow all that nonsense to hell and back.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#393: Jul 6th 2012 at 4:22:38 PM

Well, I'm not going to stop you.

Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#395: Jul 7th 2012 at 1:12:34 AM

Rule #786 of the Trope Repair Shop: If a Real Life example section is proving to be very problematic, just nuke the section. cool

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#396: Jul 7th 2012 at 5:27:46 AM

^ Except the problem child was in the description, not the examples list. tongue

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#397: Jul 7th 2012 at 5:43:50 AM

Whoops. Shows me not to fast-read too fast.

How much of it can be put in an Analysis subpage?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#398: Jul 7th 2012 at 1:46:42 PM

Rather, it would go to Useful Notes - if we need one for ages of consent.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#399: Jul 7th 2012 at 2:36:23 PM

Now would it be okay for me to fix the Blasphemous Boast page?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#400: Jul 11th 2012 at 6:18:01 AM

The first paragraph of Ensemble Dark Horse would be better off at the bottom of the description.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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