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#217651: Nov 9th 2017 at 4:02:57 AM

Nope, wages are so low in the US that for the moment it's cheaper to hire a bunch of employees than to spend the money automating things.

Oh really when?
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#217652: Nov 9th 2017 at 4:09:04 AM

Low wages in America and pretty much any business decision that only benefits them in the short term can most likely be attributed directly to capitalism. It's not just "we've got to have money", but "we've got to have money, and we've got to have it now", with a side of "fuck you, i'm tryna get this paper".

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#217653: Nov 9th 2017 at 4:28:13 AM

<_< I can't really comprehend how the heck situation over there got into that bad situation in first place. Like, I'm pretty sure all corporations are greedy and jerks, but somehow American branches sound much more spiteful about it

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#217654: Nov 9th 2017 at 4:29:08 AM

It's times like this I fondly remember Wal Mart getting kicked out of Germany because they violated our Constitutional guarantee of the inviolability of human dignity

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#217655: Nov 9th 2017 at 5:09:48 AM

You know a business is bad when it's considered an affront to human dignity.

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#217656: Nov 9th 2017 at 5:54:26 AM

[up][up] They also failed because a) they couldn't compete with local stores and b) their employee's mandated behaviour creeped out the customers.

edited 9th Nov '17 5:54:44 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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#217657: Nov 9th 2017 at 5:55:44 AM

IIRC a lot of American companies have fallen foul of other countries' "Sorry but you must actually give a damn about your employees" laws.

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#217658: Nov 9th 2017 at 6:50:41 AM

Brad Paisley and Carrie Underwood seem to mock Trump during the opening segment of the Country Music Awards last night with a parody of Underwood's "Before He Cheats" called "Before He Tweets."

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#217659: Nov 9th 2017 at 6:52:19 AM

Am I the only one thinking that openly mocking a Republican President, even Trump, is a ballsy thing to do at the Country Music Awards?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#217660: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:02:07 AM

Look what happened to the Dixie Chicks....granted they were more explicit.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#217661: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:05:07 AM

[up]Yep. Mad props.

Then again, musicians have always been an independent lot. See the Dixie Chicks calling W. Bush "a disgrace to Texas."

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#217662: Nov 9th 2017 at 7:50:07 AM

The One County In America That Voted In A Landslide For Both Trump And Obama

I know people are probably tired of things like this, but this place actually seems to be fairly unusual in that: it's not typical Trump country with a bunch of failing steel mills or coal mines or opiod epidemic, the people by and large apparently don't really like Trump and never really did, and even though Obama won the county in a landslide during the actual election in the caucus it went for Hillary. Also, Obama is still fairly liked, apparently.

I'm posting this because this doesn't really seem like it's trying to say "Democrats should do this to win over Trump voters/WWC" or things like that.

edited 9th Nov '17 7:54:58 AM by LSBK

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#217663: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:07:51 AM

John Kelly becoming chief of staff may be a good thing, but not for his qualities.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#217664: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:12:03 AM

John kelly is just as big a piece of shit as Trump is, tbh

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#217665: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:47:16 AM

[up]Pretty sure that is an insult to shit, which can at least be used to help farmers...

Edit: Wow... what a crappy page-topper...

edited 9th Nov '17 8:47:42 AM by GamesandTropes

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#217666: Nov 9th 2017 at 8:59:41 AM

But a great pun, intended or not.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#217667: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:02:04 AM

Kelly is shit, but he's not crazy. That's the big thing.

Also, it just me or has Mathis been quiet lately?

edited 9th Nov '17 9:02:17 AM by Rationalinsanity

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#217668: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:21:28 AM

I suspect that Mantis went into this expecting Trump to be his kind of crazy, only to discover that Trump isn’t crazy in the sense that he’s bloodthirsty, Trump is crazy in the sense that he doesn’t understand cause and effect and thinks he’s on a reality TV show.

Also while Kelly is a horrible person he’s not Trump levels of bad, he’s bad enough that he shouldn’t be anywhere near a position of power, but that’s because he’s a bad person, not because he can’t comprehend cause and effect.

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#217669: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:23:34 AM
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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#217670: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:34:40 AM

A splash of cold water, but not really surprising [1]; 82% of Trump voters would vote for him again without hesitation. So, any guesses on the other 18% or so?

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#217671: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:38:38 AM

Might be Single-Issue Wonk voters having some regrets, accelerationists coming to the realization that they'll be the kindling for the fire, or old school diehard republicans who thought the rest of the government could somehow temper him.

edited 9th Nov '17 9:39:20 AM by carbon-mantis

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#217672: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:42:39 AM

Or people who will probably vote for him anyway and only voice concerns to sound more reasonable to others.

Shy Tory Factor and all that.

Oh really when?
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#217673: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:42:49 AM

Note that headline is slightly misleading, if 2016 happened again they’d still vote the same way, so for many of them it may not that they’d vote for Trump again, but that they’d just still vote against Hillary.

She’s just that hated.

One can’t remove the Hillary factor when asking about if people regret their 2016 vote, and the Hillary factor is a big part of why we lost, it’s why we can run 2020 on a platform of “well that was fucking stupid, do you want to be an adult now and listen to us?” no matter how tempting it might be.

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#217674: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:51:00 AM

And Trump isn't a bad person?tongue
That's why Trump is worse, he's a bad person and completely incoherent.

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#217675: Nov 9th 2017 at 9:53:00 AM

Regarding the minimum wage debate, here's how I see it. Which is better:

  • 12 starving employees who cannot afford to even pay the rent, slowly suffocating to death in an economic quagmire.
  • 6 employees making a living wage, and 6 people floating on welfare benefits as they search for a new job.

Is having every American employed really a goal worth achieving if they all have to work in sweatshops for slave wages to do it? This is one of the fundamental economic disagreements between parties. Republicans care about quantity of jobs while Democrats care about quality.

There are worse things in the world than being laid off from a job that wasn't even supporting you in the first place.

edited 9th Nov '17 9:54:37 AM by TobiasDrake

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