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Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#1151: Sep 3rd 2017 at 7:05:26 PM

The fact that the page is a redirect to itself is a sufficient reason to no have it indexed.

1)We don't index redirects.

2)Circular Redirects aren't exactly well liked by browsers. Generally speaking, you get an error page when going to them. This means that having it actually indexed will cause people browsing along the index at the bottom of the pages will end up on a error page. This is undesirable.

edited 3rd Sep '17 7:05:35 PM by Zyffyr

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#1152: Sep 3rd 2017 at 9:42:30 PM

Oh, namespace troubles. I was talking about Administrivia.Circular Redirect which is a regular non-redirect page about circular redirects. And somehow didn't notice.

... why is Main.Circular Redirect Self-Demonstrating. well that's a discussion for elsewhere.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1153: Sep 4th 2017 at 7:26:31 AM

It is a bug. Circular Redirect and circular redirects are supposed to generate an error message. Administrivia.Circular Redirect is useless.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#1155: Sep 4th 2017 at 8:34:10 PM

The fact that circular redirects aren't caught by the wiki, I think they meant.

Judging by the edit history on Main.Circular Redirect, the entire reason that page exists is as an easy example of what that error screen looks like.

.... So, if Administrivia.Circular Redirect is useless, does that mean it should be cut?

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
MissMokushiroku Ace Gamer from Atlanta, Georgia, USA Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Ace Gamer
#1156: Sep 28th 2017 at 5:00:07 PM

So, there's a work (Doki Doki Literature Club!) that seems to start off as a Romantic Comedy, but abruptly goes through a Genre Shift partway through and becomes a Psychological Horror story. This is a pretty major spoiler for what should be obvious reasons.

My question is, would it be appropriate for me to add it to the medium's horror index (even though it's a spoiler) or should I leave it off? I already know that the work title can't be put in spoiler markup on trope/index pages.

edited 28th Sep '17 5:00:47 PM by MissMokushiroku

ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#1157: Oct 4th 2017 at 7:42:02 AM

Newly launched trope. No index listed, yet. Any suggestions?

Cathartic Exhalation

"Get me a gun, I'm a soldier; but put me in that suit and I'm a superhero." - Gunnery Sgt Roberta "Bobbie" Draper MMC
DementioTheDemented Unsuccessful Troper from Deepest Pit of Depression (very deep) Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Unsuccessful Troper
#1158: Oct 22nd 2017 at 3:50:23 PM

Good evening, I am a new troper here and I find myself completely out of my league, I have been talked into joining and helping to fix a new page here since I have some passing "Experience" in Wiki forums...problem is that TV Tropes is way more "different" compared to what I am used to seeing. I have already given a look at the page itself and tried to put some "flesh" on it to make it less empty, and now I saw that it has not been indexed and I was unsure about WHERE to actually put it without going against six-hundred-twenty-seven bazillion rules...Help? I never knew creating a "Decent" (their words, not mine) page here would have been so difficult...

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DementioTheDemented Unsuccessful Troper from Deepest Pit of Depression (very deep) Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Unsuccessful Troper
#1160: Oct 23rd 2017 at 1:07:04 AM

here it is: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/Tremor230

Apparently, the guys are fans of this dude and wanted to give him his own page here, problem is that...I don't want to say that they did a poor job...But it was only three lines of description without not even his profile picture, I already added more details based on what they told me about him (never heard of him myself) and few links and details. now I am trying to read his work to have a Trope list to add, but is not easy XD XD XD. Damn if it's hard being a Troper! (lol)

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#1161: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:28:17 AM

If it doesn't at least link to some work articles on TV Tropes, then there's not much point in that page existing.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DementioTheDemented Unsuccessful Troper from Deepest Pit of Depression (very deep) Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Unsuccessful Troper
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#1163: Oct 23rd 2017 at 5:42:10 AM

... sigh

To answer the first question, Tremor230 should be indexed in Creators (or an appropriate sub-index thereof) along with all other Creator articles.

Secondly, what I meant to say was that the article is incomplete and poorly written, and will be cut if these problems are not fixed.

  • It has improperly namespaced links to various franchises in the description.
  • It does not contain a list of works that this creator has made. This list should be linked to the articles for those works on TV Tropes.
  • It has dodgy grammar.
  • It is a bit too gushy towards this author.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
DementioTheDemented Unsuccessful Troper from Deepest Pit of Depression (very deep) Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Unsuccessful Troper
#1164: Oct 23rd 2017 at 6:01:38 AM

in fact I think I should erase it completely and re-do it from scratch, and I toned down the "gushing" A LOT, you should have seen the mess it was before (add horrified shivering here), as for the spacing, I have honestly no idea how to fix that since for some reason Jojo keeps being put without spaces, I think I will remove that one completely... But really, I should just erase and re-start, it's never good to work with somebody else "left-overs" sadsadsad

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1165: Nov 28th 2017 at 8:47:53 PM

What indexes for VideoGame.Getting Over It With Bennett Foddy?

The only one currently, is for the Creator, but there should be at least 1 Video Game type index...

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Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
Psshhh...
#1166: Dec 1st 2017 at 2:29:06 PM

The Pet Fad Starter page has just been launched; besides Trivia and Unexpected Reactions to This Index, is there anywhere else it should be placed?

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#1167: Dec 4th 2017 at 12:02:48 PM

I'm going to be launching Sky Williams soon (within the month). You can see the TLP draft here. I'd like some feedback as to what indexes the page should go under. I figure Web Video and Let's Play are appropriate, but I'm not sure if this page would technically fit better under Web Originals of the 2000s or Web Originals of the 2010s. That is, his first uploads were in 2008, but his web video series (plural) all started around 2013, and the article is about his web video series rather than him as, say, a stand-up comedian. I'd also like suggestions for any other index anybody can think of.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1169: Dec 5th 2017 at 5:09:32 PM

... Since it's a Series Mascot-based trope, shouldn't you be starting from there?

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DEIDATVM from East Fishkill, New York Since: Dec, 2016
#1170: Dec 6th 2017 at 5:15:19 AM

@1165 I added it to Video Games of the 2010s. It might be able to go somewhere on Humble Bundle. Possibly Genre-Busting too since that's apparently an index and I can't think of a clear genre for it.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#1171: Dec 6th 2017 at 10:59:22 AM

^^ I listed it under Mascot. However, that's not an index.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1172: Dec 7th 2017 at 6:38:27 AM

No, I mean start from the indexes that Series Mascot is listed under.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#1173: Dec 11th 2017 at 10:49:09 AM

I don't think it fits Rule of Cute or Characters as Devices.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1174: Dec 12th 2017 at 6:11:38 AM

It should since it's "this was at one time a Series Mascot, even though nowadays it's not".

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#1175: Dec 17th 2017 at 2:03:40 PM

Where should Sim Series go?

edited 17th Dec '17 2:03:57 PM by Pichu-kun


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