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  • Ass Pull: How America defeats the light monster a second time. She goes back in time to when she first fought the monster and teams up with her future self to send it forward in time, into a trap. There's no given reason as to why this makes the present version of the monster disappear, and why the timeline hasn't changed at all beyond that, despite the monster's existence directly affecting events.
  • Base-Breaking Character:
    • Is America spicy, fun, and badass? Or is she an obnoxious asshole? America's behavior and treatment of others in this story has divided the fanbase.
    • There are people that like America, but not as she was written in this book. There are some that preferred how Al Ewing wrote her in Ultimates.
  • Broken Base: Her 2017 solo series. Either it's a fun progressive comic with lots of stuff going on, or it's a terrible "trying too hard to be edgy and modern" comic with no plot. And then there's the So Bad, It's Good camp.
  • Critical Dissonance: The book has been getting stellar grades across the boards from critics, while fans have given the book a colder reception.
  • Fanon: Madrimar's sexuality is never established. But since Everyone Is Gay, Homosexual Reproduction exists and her culture is steeped in lesbianism, fans generally assume that Madrimar is a lesbian, like the rest of her family.
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  • Funny Moments: A meta example. 4chan's /co/ board managed to sneak a mail onto the letters page of the sixth issue of her solo, comparing the run to The Room.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "Holy menstruation!" Explanation 
    • "I'm Captain America." "Wait, did you say Hitler?" Explanation 
    • Kate Bishop's incredibly OOC Character Filibuster in the fifth issue has become a very popular phrase. It even supplanted the ever-popular "Holy menstruation!" as the most recognized moment in the series.
    Kate: I'm literally intrigued and in awe of both of them. [America and Magdalena] If this is what it's like to date other women, then I applaud all the women dating women right now because this is incredible. Motorcycle courtship chase? Check. Missiles and explosions? Check. And now "we're just flying together in the sky, heading to a giant heart." I swear, if they come back married I'm going to be so jealous. *sigh* Always the bride's best archer, never the archer-bride.
    • Due to the infamous troll letter, which compared the book to The Room, America is now recognized as, and called The Room of comics.
  • Misaimed Fandom: A lot of people saw America punching Hitler as an empowering and badass moment, and took it as a sign to fight problems with their fists. But in the story itself, the scene showed that America was in the wrong; her reckless reaction ended up ruining the Allies' plan to stop Hitler, allowing him to get away.
  • Narm: Some of the quotes from the solo have been considered painful to read. The one quote everyone cite as one of the worst in the Marvel lineup is "What the holy menstruation are you doing here?", considered a terrible attempt at pandering.
    • America goes to (Sonia) Sotomayor University. Sotomayor is the first Latina to be an American Supreme Court justice, having been confirmed in August 2009. While the university is unaccredited, it's still considered a prestigious school. There are very few prestigious Universities throughout the entire world named after a real person, let alone a real person who's a) still alive and b) had only been on the Supreme Court for 8 years when the comic started. The last new university in the US was established in 2008 so it would take longer than that to be established, let alone become elite. Its name could have been changed but that's unlikely as a university's name is integral to its reputation.
  • Never Live It Down: Altogether, now: "Holy menstruation." Never mind that she only said this a single time, the comic's many detractors have latched onto this as her catch-phrase, if not simply using "holy menstruation" as a shorthand reference to America herself.
  • Snark Bait: Among many Marvel comics of the Marvel Now lineup, the solo comic has a sizable hatedom that mocks many of the elements on it.
  • So Bad, It's Good: There's people in the solo series' "hatedom" that genuinely enjoy it because of how bad it is. Hey, it may be bad, but it's unintentionally hilarious as well.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: America can visit anywhere in the multiverse in an instant. This book even adds time travel to her power set. But instead of having America's adventures across time and space, most of the arcs just take place at Sotomayor University.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic:
    • America herself, in regards to her breakup with Lisa. Explanation 
    • Even worse, in America #8, she appears to start a long distance relationship with Magdalena, even though the idea of a long-distance relationship was the catalyst for the breakup between America and Lisa in the first place.

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