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  • If Yoshikage Kira wanted a normal life and not be bothered by anything, then why did he go around killing women and taking their hands? Seems to be asking for trouble and to be bothered.
    • Kira had mental problems. He couldn't resist his compulsions.
      • Case in point: His favourite movie was Fritz Lang's M, which was about a compulsory child killer who claimed he was not responsible for his actions.
      • Or maybe he was mental from a different source...
    • Maybe he wanted to have a normal life BESIDES dismembering women...
    • "Normal" might be a mistranslation. Wikipedia's list of chapter titles has Kira wanting a "quiet" life.
    • Or he's just a complete psychopath whose personal interpretation of "normal"/"quiet" life is: be able to indulge in my impulses while not standing out.
  • Why does Kira not embalm the hands that he collects? Would he not have more time with his "girlfriend" before she decomposes on him?
    • It would probably be too suspicious for Kira’s liking for a salaryman to obtain embalming tools, no matter how he did it. Plus, he seems to enjoy killing frequently as well, not just having the hands.
  • Josuke merged Angelo with a rock as an alternative to killing him, but wouldn't Angelo just have suffocated in a second after being merged with the rock anyway?
    • I don't see why, he still has most of his human body, including his lungs, and his nose and mouth seem to be working just fine.
      • But that still means he will eventually die of thirst or starvation?
    • When Terenosuke was turned into a book, his face became the illustrations on the page. The narrator says that book murmurs sometimes, so clearly his body still works despite this. I think the implication is that if Josuke fuses you into something, then you just live like that forever, no need for food, water, or air. Josuke even tells Angelo that he’s “gonna live forever in the town my grandpa loved”.
  • Koichi's Act 2 had the power to create anything that made a noise by writing the sound effect on something (i.e. crackle for fire, whoosh for wind; presumably this could even extend to the boom of an atomic bomb or the crack of a spine being broken), so it basically had infinite uses; so in what way is Act 3's ability to make things heavier an improvement?
    • Well, Act 3 seems to be much faster and more combat-capable than Act 2. Additionally, we don't know the exact limits of what Act 2 could generate. It's quite possible that blowing away Yukako was the upper boundary of what it could do.
    • For that matter, how are the powers of Act 2 and Act 3 even related at all?
      • They aren't.
      • Act 3's explanation of the Freeze power is that it changed the spelling of "Three," so the reasoning seems to still be vaguely wordplay-related.
      • Echoes various Act's and their powers were based respectively on "the sound of words" for Act 1, "the meaning of words" for Act 2, and "the weight of words" for Act 3. Hence why Three Freeze now weighs it's targets down, I would assume Act Three is applying the words in question when it punches the target, though that last part is just speculation.
      • Act 2's word ability doesn't change the physical surface of objects so Koichi can't break spines with a "crack" sound.
  • Why wasn't Okuyasu a little more vengeful towards the man who killed his brother, once they had him at their mercy?
    • Okuyasu is a good person, really. No one in the good side of "Diamond is Unbreakable" killed anyone.
    • Also, he did say that his brother got what was coming to him, so he wasn't really vengeful.
  • How did Akira survive after his Stand died in the ocean?
    • The Stand didn't actually die. Only a Stand can kill a Stand.
  • During the battle against Kira, there's the point where Josuke has to decide whether to risk healing an injured Okuyasu. Hayato conducts the bomb energies from Okuyasu into himself, but then Josuke heals him back to whole while he's in the middle of exploding. So why not just wait for Kira to blow up Okuyasu and do the same thing?
    • He wasn't sure he could pull it off, and the risks were too great.
      • He was afraid because If Okuyasu had been turned into a bomb, then Kira could have blown up Okuyasu and killed Josuke, and since Crazy Diamond can't heal Josuke... yeah.
    • If I recall correctly, Okuyasu was already injured at that point, and fading fast. Josuke didn’t have time to wait to heal him. And because Okuyasu was out cold, Kira really had no reason to blow Okuyasu up aside from him being touched by someone.
  • Probably the one non understandable thing about Jojo is the final battle with Kira's 'Bites the Dust' ability (which is admittedly really kind of cool and trippy). Kira had everyone right where he wanted them, and he even activates KQ's power, and then huge severing tears are shown on the gang for a panel. So what happens? Does he win, or?! Time resets!! But still we see him win... He. Won. Period.
    • He doesn't know who got killed. It isn't even clear if he knows that time did indeed reset (he seems to be able to deduct it from the way Koichi acts), so the only way to be sure was to wait until the repeat-death happens.
    • Notice the newspaper box behind Kira when he resets time. FORESHADOWING!!! Besides they know where he lives, once time resets, they go to Kira's house and kill him in 2 seconds.
    • To better explain: Kira actually didn't activate Bites The Dust, he only hallucinated that when he was killed by an ambulance. The fact he remembered he activated it immediately was the first clue. Where he wound up was Reimi's alley, his soul waiting for damnation.
  • When Angelo killed Ryohei, why didn't Jotaro try to restart his heart like with Joseph Joestar at the end of Stardust Crusaders?
    • Most likely Angelo probably killed Ryohei and/or stopped Ryohei's heart too quickly and too fatally for Jotaro's Star Platinum to make a difference.
    • Can Star Platinum can pass through other Stand Users' bodies?? No other Stand can do so, after all, unless it has that specific ability.
    • Except that was exactly what Star Platinum did to Joseph in order to restart his heart at the end of Part 3.
    • Well, Star Platinum probably grew weaker as Jotaro aged. After all, his Stand was considerably weakened by the events of Part 6.
    • Star Platinum was weakened by a heart condition caused by Jotaro overusing Star Platinum: The World while hunting down evil Stand users for the past couple decades(something that was never an issue for DIO since his vampiric regeneration fixed any harm The World caused on him), it did not grow weak simply because he was older, had he not used the time stop as much or at all, Star Platinum would've been fine, plus, the heart condition hadn't kicked in yet in Diamond is Unbreakable, being still stated having the shining A in Durability during part 4.
    • Perhaps Star Platinum can only do the heart-restart on stand users?
    • I always thought the reason why Ryohei didn't come back to life was because he chose not to return. Besides, he might have came back but only as a zombie like Bucciarati in Part 5. As for Joseph surviving... It might have something to do with how he's a Hamon user.
    • The more likely answer is that the circumstances of Ryohei and Joseph's deaths were very different and Joseph had extreme luck on his side. For him, he was in a Speedwagon Foundation ambulance with top of the line equipment, DIO's Time Stopping had meant he was only dead for a few minutes, Joseph had died of blood loss and DIO's corpse was there to act as a blood bag. Ryohei on the other hand was killed by ingesting Aqua Necklace and was ravaged from the inside, destroying vital organs and killing him near instantly.
  • Why Doesn't Rohan just use Heavens Door to see how Josuke is cheating?
    • Because he has occasional obsessive asshole tendencies.
    • Rohan is rich. He wouldn't care if he loses a couple of dollars to a teen.
    • Rohan's ego prevented him from taking the "easy" way out. He wanted to figure it out on his own.
      • This is the most likely answer, for Rohan it wasn't about the money, he has more money than he can figure out what to do with it (when he isn't bankrupt due to buying a brand new mountain range, that is), it was about the battle of wits between him and Josuke that he felt he was losing, it was never about the money.
    • Because Josuke wouldn't have let him?
      • Rohan summoning Heaven's Door has been shown to be unreactable. Josuke wouldn't have been able to stop him if he tried anything.
    • Because it's been established that Heaven's Door doesn't work on Josuke.
      • It only failed to work on Josuke because he was too blinded by rage to comprehend Rohan's manuscript. He isn't some special case where Heaven's Door is ineffectual, and if he wasn't so pissed off, it would've worked just fine.
      • But later in the Ghost Alley, Rohan brings up the fact that, his improved abilities notwithstanding, people such as Josuke who don't have an appreciation for artistic values won't be affected by his power.
      • He only THINKS that.
      • Well, there’s your answer. He didn’t use it because he didn’t believe it would work, and therefore saw no point in trying.
  • Okay, we’ve all put this off long enough. Why don't they just use Hermit Purple to track Yoshikage Kira when he disappears?
    • Part 4 Joseph may be too senile to summon his Stand any more.
    • But he managed to use it to get a picture of Angelo and to capture Shizuka.
      • It's explained that he can only track the whereabouts of other Joestars. Dio had Jonathan's body, so that's why he could find him, but Kira has no connection to the Joestar bloodline.
      • No, they were clearly planning on using Hermit Purple to find Akira. Besides the loss of an ‘A’, what changed for Kira?
      • He was supposed to snake Hermit Purple through the powerlines and act as a tripwire for Chili Pepper to set off. They omitted that fact in the Anime.
      • To give this the old college try...maybe Jotaro thought it might have been too dangerous. Recall that Kira’s father could also control photographs using Atom Heart Father. Crossing that with Hermit Purple could cause some unpredictable results, and Jotaro wouldn’t risk Joseph’s life for something like that (doesn’t explain not using Hermit Purple for hints like the map making or television messages...)
      • Remember what happened when Joseph tried to get a picture of Josuke? That picture of Angelo was an accident. There are simply too many Stand users in Morioh for Hermit Purple to take a precise photo.
      • Except that Joseph was still able to use Hermit Purple to try spying on DIO, and that’s when the latter was surrounded by enemy Stand Users. The Angelo picture was Hermit Purple telling Joseph that his son was in danger.
  • Why didn't Rohan force — or use Heaven's Door to command — Josuke to fix his house?
    • Too conspicuous?
    • Because Rohan's hatred for Josuke (and shame at having lost) at that point was too strong to ask him to repair the damage.
  • Why didn't they take Shizuka to the police?
    • "Hi, I'd like to turn in this baby I found. Please ignore the fact that she may turn invisble at any given moment due to a spirit that she can't control. Also, don't cause any media attention, we like to keep spirits like this a secret. Wait, why am I being put in handcuffs?"
      • Good answer.
  • Of all of Josuke's "make money quick" schemes, did he never think of opening a "repair anything" business and use Crazy Diamond's power to make loads of easy money? ranging from electronics to cluttery to even family heirlooms like old feudal weapons, he can fix anything to prime condition in seconds, and here he wouldn't be scamming anyone like when he tried to cheat Rohan out of his money or having to literally fight Shigechi to near death to get his rightful share of a lottery ticket, he could even enlist Okuyasu's help to play the role of clerk to make it seem he is constantly busy working and make it less suspicious, and it is not like he would be the only one in town running a Stand-based business, both Tonio and Doctor Aya did similar, so why not?
    • The operative words here are "make money quick". Josuke is a teenager, and as smart and mature as he is, he still doesn't think like an adult. He probably considers something like that boring or that it would take way too much time. And seeing as he is still a teenager, who's gonna actually buy this service from him?
      • This. And how do you expect him to explain his incredible fixing powers?
      • Tonio actively advertises the fact that he can heal all but the most severe (basically supernatural stuff) by serving delicious food. Nobody ever questioned it until Josuke came in; I doubt the people would look twice at the teenager who fixes stuff well.
      • Tonio has his culinary skills to complement his Stand ability. All Josuke has to do is touch you to restore your physical health, which isn't nearly as covert. And it's not like he'd be irresponsible enough to just prod people with random medical supplies to cover it up.
    • Apparently not.
  • Brought up by discussion above, but how exactly does Tonio go about explaining his food's healing abilities to normal people? For some dishes, like the antipasto and mineral water, he's able to handwave by saying things like "it's the vitamins" or "it has special ingredients from another country", which would seem more logical than a magical spirit in the food that heals you, but how was he planning to explain to Okuyasu and Josuke how his food can cause people guts to explode out of their mouth and stomach and then repair themselves?
    • Faith healers and con artists have sold massive lies for smaller things. I'm sure he could bullshit his way through that just fine.
  • When Rohan used Heaven's Door on Hayato, how did he see the memories of things that were about to happen? I get that it was meant to be a part of Bites The Dust's time looping effect, but he hadn't gone back in time from that point when Rohan first got to him so he shouldn't have known about those things.
    • Most likely, Hayato had already gone through a first, unseen loop, where he did the exact same thing as he does in the first loop we see, and he doesn't change any of his actions in the second loop because he doesn't notice anything is particularly wrong other than a sense of deja vu. However, since he did experience these things, even if he himself didn't necessarily think it was real, it would still show up with Heaven's Door's ability.
  • Things that Crazy Diamond could have fixed if Josuke/Araki had stopped to think about it: Nijimura's father. That nameless farming couple that was liquefied but kept alive by the two stand-using rats. Rohan's house. Kira's false identity. If Josuke had just used Crazy Diamond on Kosaku's corpse, the face and fingerprints would have been forcibly returned to him from Kira; worst case scenario, Kira gets his old identity back and is easily recognized, best case scenario he's faceless in the middle of the street.
    • I think he can only bring things to the state he thinks is "healed", and he did not know the previous state of the above things. I think the idea for Nijimura's father is that he is technically healthy. As for Rohan's house, Josuke is just a dick.
    • The farming couple could've been dead by the time he remembered they existed. Also, remember that they were preoccupied with Aya at the time, and Jojo didn't even get to fix her wounds before she exploded. Since Kira figured the gang would be trailing right behind him, he probably hoped that the explosion would be enough to wipe out the whole group, and he would've if it weren't for Okuyasu being smart with The Hand for once. An explosion that size should've been more than enough to blow up Kosaku's body, which was right next to Aya. All Kira could do at that point was wait for his hand to come back, as he was still somehow running about with one bloody stump. The real question is why Josuke didn't fix the button that came off the suit.
      • The button didn't have any strings attached, at least in the anime, so it wouldn't have had anything to repair. Buttons aren't technically attached to coats in a way that Crazy Diamond can manipulate.
      • Josuke states that he can't fix anything that Okuyasu touches with The Hand, though it's because Okuyasu disintegrates said things, there's the possibility that Crazy Diamond can't heal things altered by a Stand (though he did recover Okuyasu from Chilli Pepper), also, it has never been said that Josuke didn't fix the farm couple, and in the anime Josuke says he can heal the couple.
    • Nijimura's father had undergone a mutation at a genetic level, so even if Josuke had tried to heal him, that's the way he is now, also, it seems that Josuke has at least seen or know the original form or ingredients of the things he fixes, like Tonio's pasta
  • Why couldn't Josuke just use Crazy Diamond to repair the button and have it lead him to Kira like he did with his hand?
    • They probably wanted to take a more measured approach. Kira managed to kill Shigechi right in front of them without anyone noticing, and is a well-established serial killer that obviously knew how to cover his tracks and eliminate any threats. The Jojo party needed to be careful. Besides, if Josuke had waited pretty much any amount of time, the button would've flown to the tailor instead of to Kira himself, and Jotaro found the correct tailor really quickly anyway.
    • Maybe because the button would be considered a separate object from the jacket. It probably could've been done if the string that attached it was still on it but it wasn't.
  • What was the Duwang Gang's plan once they apprehended Kira if they weren't gonna kill him? Did they really think imprisoning him would be effective? For fuck's sake, the guy's Stand BLOWS SHIT UP, what's to stop him from just Michael Baying his way out of prison and go back to his killing spree? Jotaro should've at least been the one to do him in, seeing as he's killed enemies before.
    • Seeing as how Jotaro prevented Kira from using his stand by breaking his thumb before accidently killing him, probably that. If they wanted to be absolutely sure that Kira would never use his stand again, they could have even went so far as to cut off his hand. Also, it should be stated that the only enemies Jotaro has killed are DIO, Imposter Captain Tennille, and Forever (note: it's not confirmed if Steely Dan and Rubber Soul died from Jotaro's Rapid-Fire Fisticuffs). DIO was a literal monster who has thrown away his humanity and was too powerful to leave alive, Jotaro fought Tennille in a life-or-death duel (which the latter started) where one of them was bound to drown, and Forever, like DIO, isn't a human and while Jotaro did go out of his way to beat him up, it's possible he died from drowning after his stand deactivated or was crushed by the ship folding in on itself. The takeaway is that while Jotaro is not above beating his enemies senseless even after surrendering, he never goes out of his way to kill them unless it can't be helped.
  • Watching the Part 4 anime, it becomes kinda frustrating to see how many times the team could have just caught him. As mentioned above, Josuke could have summoned his suit with the button he left behind. Josuke could have healed Kawajiri's face in Aya's parlor and found who Kira replaced. Joseph could have just used Hermit Purple to find Kira's new face (and don't say he's too senile, him using Hermit Purple to find a murderer is the entire reason Jotaro is in Morioh in the first place). Josuke could have healed Kira's clipped fingernails and used them to find him. Araki makes mistakes, sure, but yikes.
    • Worth noting, too, that Joseph isn't too senile to save Rohan from Ken, and is intuitive enough to do so without Rohan so much as saying a word.
    • Kira has new fingernails, so is not possible using the old.
    • You know what, there's another way. When Aya changed Kira's face, why didn't she use the same power she used on Yukako to make his face revert or hideous or something?
    • Because she died?
      • She didn’t die instantly; she was giving a long-winded monologue when she could’ve just uglied his face and told them to track down the guy who looks like he got hit with an ugly stick
      • Do you even remember what you were watching? Aya was already on death's door. Using her Stand's power requires a great deal of energy.
    • The most troubling part is that Josuke attempted to use Kira's hand by healing it and thus make it into a tracking device to find Kira... except it is shown numerous times that Josuke not only restores anything to original form, but he has absurd precise control of how far his ability will go, if he punches down a concrete road, he can either fix it back into a road, or make the pieces be reduced to the tar used to make the concrete, to top it off, when Okuyasu was dragged into the energy line by Red Hot Chilly Peppers, Josuke pulled him back by healing the arm he had lost in the fight against RHCP, instead of using Kira's hand as a tracking device... he could have simply pulled Kira back by healing the hand and forcing Kira towards the hand rather than sending the hand to Kira, even if Kira tried to counter act this by cutting off his whole arm, Josuke could have simply repeated the process by healing the arm, there is only so much Kira could cut off before starting to target vital parts of his body, and even if they found risky to be in physical contact with Kira due to his bombs, Jotaro was extremelly close to Josuke at the time, he could have simply used Star Platinum: The World to kill Kira before Kira could act, just like they did in the finale, except if Josuke had just done the smart thing, Doctor Aya and Hayato's father would have lived.
      • The reason why Kira cut his hand off in the first place was to use Sheer Heart Attack as a distraction while he ran away. If Josuke heals Kira back to him, it's possible that Sheer Heart Attack would still be flying around (noticeably, Sheer Heart Attack returns to Kira's hand when Josuke heals it back onto Kira, not necessarily the other way around), which Josuke didn't want to risk. Besides, as far as the group new, Kira had nowhere to go, and they were caught off guard when he ran for Aya's shop.
      • Maybe when Okuyasu was transformed by Chilly Pepper into electricity Josuke healed the hand because the one who was altered was Okuyasu rather than his arm.
  • Why did Reimi and Arnold retain their fatal wounds as ghosts, but Kira didn't? I know that would mean having to see his head all fucked up, but it's still a noticeable inconsistency.
    • He actually does, although it's not immediately obvious. He doesn't look dead at first because he doesn't know that he is. Once Reimi forces him to remember, you see blood rushing down his face, the implication being that it's his death wounds appearing properly. Later, in "Dead Man's Questions", he's seen constantly wearing a bowler hat, presumably to cover up the injuries.
  • How exactly does Crazy Diamond determine something/someone's fixed state? It repairs Yuya multiple times without touching his tattoo. If Yuya had gotten it recently, would it?
    • Looks like it heals up to the state that Josuke believes it's fully healed. When Josuke fixes the motorcycle a bit earlier, for instance, he fixes it up to where the broken and shattered parts restore themselves and pull back together, even though it could have remained as its component pieces before assembly or even the raw metals, plastics, and such used to make it. You can see it in the spaghetti Josuke reverts in Antonio's restaurant: Some of the ingredients reverted back to when they were raw (the pasta), whereas others reverted back to their basic ingredients (the sauce).
  • Why didn't Rohan use Heaven's Door on Shizuka the invisible baby so that she wouldn't use her Stand all the time? It doesn't have to be permanent, just "I cannot use my Stand until I am 11 years old" or something.
    • He's not really in the habit of doing free favors.
      • Or favors at all.
      • I’d imagine Rohan would be at least slightly ingratiated to Joseph and Shizuka for saving his soul from Boys 2 Man. At the very least, enough to do a 5 seconds edit.
      • Perhaps Shizuka being a baby makes her immune? It’s shown that intense rage can blind a target to Heaven’s Door, even if their eyes are functional (hence how Josuke was able to win when Rohan insulted his hair); maybe Shizuka is too young to fully process what she’s seeing? Or, perhaps, Achtung Baby makes even her pages invisible, and Rohan doesn’t want to risk writing over important functions.
  • The scene of the entire cast saying goodbye to Reimi as she finally passes on is heartwarming, but when did characters like Tamami, Mikitaka and Yuya even meet her? Tamami was presumably still in the hospital when the rest of the cast met her (he was the only Stand user not present in the scene after Shigechi's death); Yuya was a former antagonist that was basically dragged into the fight against Yoshihiro's minions after his defeat, with nothing to indicate he even knew about Yoshikage, let alone Reimi; and Mikitaka... just kind of stumbled across the plot by complete chance. The third opening even features Koichi's mom and sister pointing to the sky as she passes on, which is even more egregious since they're locked out of the loop entirely.
    • They probably didn't, and got Reimi's backstory explained to the rest of the cast. That, or they may have seen her before. They're Stand users and can see ghosts, after all.
  • So Keicho wanted to find a Stand user who could kill his father. My question is... If you have The Hand, why not have that just erase his dad? It couldn't be that hard to figure out. Keichi's supposed to be the smart brother, too. He knew that his father had super regeneration. The Hand would easily be able to completely make his dad vanish from existence, which is basically the same as killing him.
    • Perhaps they've tried that and it failed, or even that they saw that as a cruel way to end it, but it's more plausible that Okuyasu couldn't bring himself to do that, after all, they both loved their father.
    • Reminder that not even Okuyasu knows where the stuff he scrapes away with his Stand goes. Their father could experience a Fate Worse than Death for all they know.
  • When Koichi and Rohan first stumble into the Ghost Girl's Alley, they end up turning themselves around several times once they realize they're trapped and try to find a way out. Why didn't they get dragged away by the hands? Reimi can't be in control of it, since she wasn't around when Cheap Trick got that treatment later on, so what gives?
    • It's only a specific part of Ghost Girl Alley drags you into the afterlife. You have to be walking down the alley that leads back to the real world, marked by a post box. Koichi even comments on it when Rohan tricks Cheap Trick into turning around ("This place...That post box!")
  • Part headscratcher, part fridge. When the team got their hands on Kira's jacket button, why didn't they just seek fingerprints from it, or run DNA analysis? (I admit, I'm not sure how DNA analysis worked in 1990s.) After all, few people touch a jacket button aside a person who wears the said jacket. Also, earlier, Kira himself was worried about getting backtracked by police if they got to check the detached hand he was trying to hide in a lunch bag. Later, I realized that Kira intentionally lived (superficially) super average life and hence has no criminal record, meaning it is less likely there are fingerprint records or DNA data on him. Maybe Kira himself was just a little paranoid with the lunch bag incident?
    • Still, some questions remain. Why couldn't they use the fingerprints on the button to screen out people who have fingerprint records? Narrows things down at least? Or maybe it was being done meanwhile, but results didn't turn in as fast as the plot proceeded?
  • How can it be that Kira doesn't know that stands can be wildly different between users before his fight against Shigechi? His father already had a stand. He'd already know about that.
    • Well if you recall, Kira didn't even know what Stands were in the first place. He just knew he had Killer Queen. And his father's stand manifested after death, hence why he was alive inside of pictures instead of having an actual body. Hell, it would be more accurate to call Yoshihiro a ghost instead of Stand user.
  • If Bites the Dust can only be activated once someone who's bound to it reveals Kira's identity, whether inadvertently or not, how exactly did Kira activate it the first time after he had killed Hayato? In fact, Kira reviving Hayato should be considered a time paradox. The Arrow impaled him after he had killed Hayato, so the only two possible outcomes of resetting time by one hour would either be him still having Bites the Dust, but Hayato would still be dead, or he revives Hayato, but Kira would never get Bites the Dust in the first place.
    • It could be that Bites the Dust is acausal and will continue to exist even if the events that lead to its creation no longer occurred. For what it's worth, Bites the Dust can return Gold Experience Requiem back into Gold Experience in the video games (whereas Made in Heaven doesn't do anything to GER), and the current theories imply you'd need some pretty strong reality warper power, or acausality to make a dent in GER. This would also explain why Jotaro couldn't stop it with Star Platinum either.
  • While Stray Cat could be seen by non-Stand users, its air bubbles could not. With that in mind, how exactly was Hayato able to see both Killer Queen as well as the air bubbles fired by Stray Cat during the final battle if he's not a Stand user? Yes, he could see Bites the Dust, but that was only while it was implanted on him, and Kira had already deactivated Bites the Dust by that point.
    • Perhaps that was the point where his Stand ability was beginning to develop.
    • He explicitly couldn’t see either; he was accuratley predicting what Kira was doing through reading his facial expression.
  • As a four-year-old, Josuke, like his half-sister Holly, suffered a fever for 50 days during the battle against Dio, and eventually got Crazy Diamond. Does this mean that Holly, who also survived her fever, should be able to actually use her Stand now?
    • Yes, actually. She probably just doesn’t have any reason to or never really tried. The idea is she was sick because it was awakening but she wasn’t actually able to USE her awakened stand and it started killing her as a result.
  • Only Stand users can see the explosions caused by Killer Queen... Now then, how did Hayato see the explosion that blew up Rohan?!
    • At that point, Hayato was the carrier of Bites the Dust. Yes, he's not a Stand user, but being that he had a Stand implanted on him, it allowed him to see its effects.
    • Also, while Stands and Stand powers may be invisible to normal people, the effects on the real world would be obvious; we see this in Part 3 when the other prisoners in Jotaro's jail cell (who can't see Magician's Red or its fire) claim that the temperature is rising. In this case, even if Hayato can't see Killer Queen's explosions, he would still be able to see multiple bloody holes explode out of Rohan's chest and back and feel the concussion in the air.
  • What was even the point of Akira stealing the Stand Arrow? His only goal in life was to make it as a big-name guitarist, which may explain why he appropriated all of the stolen valuables as a way to forcibly pay his way to the top, but all stealing the Stand Arrow did was just paint a target on him. He only ever shot two rats with it, then proceeded to do nothing with it while he tried to escape the Joestars and the Duwang Gang. If he wanted it to prevent others from rivaling him with Stand powers, then Akira clearly didn't think things through. Nobody knew he was a threat until he killed Keicho, who only created Stand users as a way to kill his father, and the Morioh police department had their sights on Angelo. Heck, there's not even any known aspiring guitarists in Morioh besides Akira himself.
    • Maybe he thought the Bow and Arrow could be sold at a high price.
  • Did Rohan really have anything to lose by showing his back to the public while possessing Cheap Trick? Considering that the only Stands that are confirmed to be seen by non-Stand users are Bound Stands, like Strength or Super Fly, or Integrated Stands, like Stray Cat or Bohemian Rhapsody, what was the danger of showing his back to the public if they can't see Cheap Trick, who's just a plain Sentient Stand? The only person he met that day who he'd have to worry about showing his back to would be Koichi. Heck, the only people we see during this arc that Cheap Trick affects (or attempts to affect) are Masazo, Rohan, and Koichi, who're all Stand users.
    • Presumably Cheap Trick's effect applied to anyone or anything that saw it. I recall it trying to attract animals to see Rohan's back as well.
    • Because Cheap Trick doesn’t go to whoever sees Cheap Trick, otherwise it would just go to someone who sees it crawl over Rohan’s shoulder. It just jumps to whoever sees the users back, killing the user. Recall that when Rohan say Masazo’s back, he didn’t see Cheap Trick until he was Cheap Trick’s user and Masazo was dead.
  • This applies to future parts as well, but In-Universe, where do Stand names come from? In Stardust Crusaders, Stands were named after which tarot card or Egyptian God card a user was destined to wield. In the case of Killer Queen, we know that Kira named it himself whilst still being unaware of the existence of Stands besides his own. It could be argued that this is how all Stands are named, but what's the deal with the names of Stands like Super Fly, whom its user doesn't recognize as anything more than his pylon home, or Cheap Trick, who functions separately from its user and only serves to be a detriment?
    • Cheap Trick was a sentient Stand, so it must've named itself. As for other Stands, it's possible the users just came up with the names depending on what sounded the coolest.
  • Obviously, Hayato wasn't fond of his family, but other than being a Plot Device used to find Kira out, why was Hayato spying on his family with all of his hidden security cameras prior to Kosaku's death? What did he have to gain by spying on their every movements?
    • He might've thought Kosaku was cheating on Shinobu. Their marriage wasn't exactly happy.
  • Did Shigechi's parents or even Shinobu and Hayato think to set up missing posters when Shigechi and Kosaku went missing? For that matter, while Hayato decided to keep Kosaku's death a secret, did Shigechi's friends ever think to tell his parents that he was dead? If Hazamada could find Rohan's house on his own, Shigechi's house shouldn't be any harder to find.
    • Shigechi's parents filed a missing person's report with the local police, while Hayato couldn't do the same with his father since Kira had the latter's face and fingerprints. I'd like to think that Jotaro had the SPW explain to Shigechi's parents, if the barest essentials, so they could know the truth, mourn, and move on.
  • Why exactly did Kira decide to deactivate Bites the Dust when Josuke found him out? Yes, with Bites the Dust still active, he couldn't use Killer Queen to defend himself, but he could've waited things out to see if Josuke was afflicted from the previous cycle, and he had two ways to go about doing so, both involving his father who was hiding in Hayato's pocket. One, use his father as a decoy to distract Josuke until the designated detonation time occurs. Two, tap into the Joestar Family Technique and bolt the hell out of dodge, and call his father later on to inform him if Josuke and the others were killed, then deactivate Bites the Dust.
    • First, Kira does not and cannot remember Bites the Dust's time loops. He tells Hayato as much and notes that he's only guessing based of Hayato's expressions whether or not people have died in previous loops. Second, Josuke was right there in front of him and was quite clearly mid stand rush when Kira recalled Killer Queen. At that point, if he doesn't call back Killer Queen Josuke takes him down then and there. TLDR, he didn't use any of the above strategies because he literally had no time to.
  • What information did Hayato decide to tell Josuke over the phone that kept Bites the Dust from going off? He was unable to tell him who Kira's identity was, so for him to tell Josuke to meet him somewhere seems a little suspicious without context, especially given how much he wasn't willing to listen to Hayato's pleas to stop asking him questions in the previous loop.
    • In the third loop, there was an observation made of Josuke running late to the gang's rendezvous. Hayato took note of this and called Josuke to simply remind him to be there on time. He did not have to mention who he was, Bites the Dust, or even Kira at all. Josuke getting there on time allowed him to be present when Kira exposed himself and thus prevented Bites the Dust from activating since Kira needed Killer Queen to defend himself from Josuke.
  • This is a question that only applies to the manga, as the anime would remedy this, but why was the Cinderella arc in between Kira's introduction and Sheer Heart Attack rather than before Kira was introduced? After Shigechi was killed, wouldn't it stand to reason that the Duwang Gang should immediately take initiative and find out who Kira is right away? Not spend a good two days talking about love and beauty salons?
    • To introduce Aya. She does play a pretty vital role in the Kira arc.
  • In the anime at least (haven't read the manga in a while), Kira blowing his cover in the Sheer Heart Attack arc is the same (asking Josuke to heal him despite the fact that he shouldn't know about Crazy Diamond). Except, Josuke outright says to Kira "I can heal your wounds." Yet despite that, Kira asking Josuke to follow through blows his cover the same way. So when Josuke asks "How did you know I can heal?", one can't help but ask "Didn't you say you could?"
    • Was it ‘heal’ or help? Most ordinary people would assume help like that would involve norma first aid, calling an ambulance (heh), etc. rather than expect a teenager to treat their injuries right then and there.
    • Having just rewatched that scene, I can confirm that Josuke was trying to trick Kira. He and Okuyasu were already suspicious about him crawling away from the scene, so by asking that question, he was testing to see if Kira knew he was a Stand user or not. And since Kira was immediately willing to accept that Josuke could heal him no problem, that's when Josuke's suspicions were confirmed.
  • When Kira was defeated, why didn't Hayato tell Shinobu the truth of everything that happened (save for maybe Stands, as that could potentially paint Hayato as crazy)? Sure, Shinobu would likely fall into a state of despair if she learned the truth, but just like Josuke and Tomoko did with the death of Ryohei, having a necessary amount of grieving time would allow for her and Hayato to get over their loss. By not telling her anything, Hayato effectively made his and his mom's life worse.
    • For all his precocious intelligence and determination, Hayato is still a child and thinks like one. From his perspective, his mom would have to learn her husband died, AND she was being cozy with a serial killer (especially one that targeted women), who killed and impersonated her husband. He doesn’t understand the process of grieving and moving on with life, and just sees telling the truth as making his mom sad. Conjecture, but I’d like to think he’ll tell his mom the truth as he gets older and develops a more nuanced view of the world.
      • Would she believe him if he told her? The idea of a serial killer being able to perfectly disguise himself with an exact duplicate of her husband's face is pretty far-fetched without revealing the supernatural elements. She might conclude Hayato was just coming up with a story as a coping mechanism. The two don't seem to have the closest home life during the segments we see while Kira is living with them, and it's implied Hayato is fairly distant from her.
  • When Reimi tells Koichi and Rohan about how she frequently sees her killer's victims flying over the ghost alley, she says that they all have stab wounds like her. Except... Kira in the present just uses his stand to blow up his victims without stabbing them. Also when Reimi sees Shigechi's spirit flying overhead while crumbling into pieces, she instantly recognizes it as one of the serial killer's murders. So why does she state that Kira's victims all have stab wounds when that can't be correct?
    • It's implied that Kira was a sadist, he likely stabbed his victims to death and used Killer Queen to efface their bodies once he severed their hands.
      • He doesn't do that with the woman Hayato caught him killing, though. Plus Kira's M.O. is being discreet with his kills, and while he does take pleasure in killing, he's never shown to take pleasure in drawing it out.
      • Kira was well beyond desperate by that point. He'd been concealing his true identity, laying low, and trying to hold off his urges for quite some time. He acted on the spur of the moment because he couldn't control himself any more, this was even addressed when, after the killing, he muses that he can't take the hand back to the Kawajiri residence with him. We can't assume this killing was representative of his usual M.O. when he's more in control of himself. He also shows a desire to physically strangle Shinobu, which could suggest his usual method is more hands-on and he uses Killer Queen to dispose of the evidence.
      • Well to be fair, we've only ever been shown Kira killing in the heat of the moment. And if Reimi's account and his bout with Shigechi is anything to go by, he didn't realize how efficient KQ is with direct kills until much later.
  • Why didn't they take Joseph to the Trattoria to give him a full-course health-meal as soon as he got to Morioh? No matter how many meals it would take or how much it would cost, Joseph would gladly pay the price to be restored so [[Pun fully]]. And with the Speedwagon Foundation's help, there's likely no ingredient that could not be procured. At the very least, the spaghetti alla puttanesca could have regrown his teeth allowing him to have t-bone steak again...
    • It likely never crossed their minds. The only ones of the Duwang Gang to be familiar with Tonio and his abilities by that point were Josuke and Okuyasu, the former of which still doesn't fully trust Tonio and the latter being a moron. And that's not getting into whether or not Pearl Jam can stave off the effects of old age anyway.
    • The fact that Tonio's food couldn't cure Okuyasu's dad proves that its effects aren't unlimited. While it probably would've improved Joseph's health, he was 79 in Part 4. There's only so healthy you can be at that age, especially since it's implied Joseph stopped using Hamon.
  • Would Hazamada really have been able to kill Jotaro with just a pen? Jotaro has tanked way worse injuries than a stab wound, even within Part 4.
    • It would depend on where he was stabbed and with how much force. Stabbing the back of Jotaro's neck could have easier damaged his spine enough to kill him.
  • How do the Nijimura brothers have custom-made school uniforms? Jotaro has a wealthy family background, so it makes sense for him, and Josuke seems to be doing ok in terms of living conditions, but the Nijimura brothers live in destitution, and whatever money their dad received from his service to Dio definitely has run dry. So what gives?
    • They could have been bought before the money ran out. Or Keicho stole the items needed to customize them and they just sewed them on themselves.

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