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NeoLightning
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09:02:00 PM Jan 5th 2012
Would you say that Super TaToBa Combo is meant to be an homage to Skyrider's upgraded suit? You know, kinda like how Fourze's Rocket States is supposed to be an homage to Super-1 and his arm changing ability.
NeoLightning
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09:04:03 PM Dec 26th 2011
edited by NeoLightning
What should Super TaToBa Combo be classified as in the Multiform Balance?
websurfer
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09:31:39 AM Oct 20th 2011
Would you say PuToTyra falls under the Dinosaurs Are Dragons trope?
Infinix
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04:45:31 AM Oct 8th 2011
What's with the sudden color changes for O-Medals? Haven't we gone through that discussion before - sixth topic from top of this page?
Psyga315
10:59:46 AM Oct 8th 2011
Yeah, but that was before all the medals came out. Now with all of them out, we can pickout which medals relate to which color. Mind you, I'm still for the single color version, but this seems better in comparison.
Infinix
11:18:29 PM Oct 8th 2011
Sure, sure. It's not like we have a lot of editing left to do.
websurfer
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03:36:12 PM Aug 27th 2011
edited by websurfer
Wouldn't BuraKaWani's Elemental Power technically be Poisonous Person, since the name of the substance that he uses for his Healing Factor is called "Soma Venom"?
AccelSynchro
07:16:10 PM Sep 2nd 2011
You would expect a Poisonous Person to, well, poison an enemy.
websurfer
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02:18:17 PM Aug 27th 2011
Should the Greeed's Set Bonus abilities when they possess all of their Core Medals be spoil covered or not?
websurfer
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01:43:38 PM Aug 27th 2011
If all the Random Combo forms were a single Video Game Character, what would they be?
AccelSynchro
07:21:42 PM Sep 2nd 2011
edited by AccelSynchro
They would probably be in the Master of None territory along with Tatoba Combo due to the fact that they don't excel in any particular area on their own. Although it's hard to say, considering there are more than 500 Random Combos due to the mix-and-match options available.
Godzillawolf
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08:16:45 PM Aug 10th 2011
Should the Original OOO be listed as a Big Bad or Bigger Bad? While he's a Posthumous Character, his actions directly started the plot and everything describing him points to the fact he was a villain. Everything in the entire series is directly his fault for creating the Greeed to begin with, which he did for a very selfish motive, to become a God, so wouldn't that make him a Big Bad or Bigger Bad?
Psyga315
08:21:26 PM Aug 10th 2011
I think he fits Bigger Bad more, since he's more of a background character than an active character.
Godzillawolf
09:02:16 AM Aug 11th 2011
That's what I thought, I was just checking.
JProllz
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06:54:47 PM Aug 8th 2011
Do we possibly have enough justifiable material for a Tear Jerker page? I'm reminded of this because of Mezuul abandoning poor ol' Gamel in #45 when she becomes completed, so I have to wonder if anybody else would be up for this.
Psyga315
07:27:24 PM Aug 8th 2011
Sure, it would be better if we find a picture of someone crying in the show.
Godzillawolf
08:17:13 PM Aug 10th 2011
I support the creation of a Tear Jerker page.
Steam
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09:19:00 AM May 6th 2011
Is it just me, or is the Dinosaur combo underwhelming? I was expecting the Medagabaryu to look like a seriously hardcore weapon instead of the dinky, toyetic thing we got. And the abilities of the form (flight, a tail, and shoulder spikes) don't seem to present an image of raw power the hype around it has built up.
fumine
04:58:35 PM May 6th 2011
I feel the same way. I'm probably one of the few people who go "meh" at dinosaur action, then add some mythical creatures to the mix and you have a combo I'm not too keen about.
JProllz
09:32:08 PM Aug 14th 2011
Well they can't have the Medagabaryu look too much like a real weapon - remember, it has to be kid-friendly on the surface. If you realize how he's holding it improperly and how badly designed it is for an axe you'd be even madder.

fumine
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03:17:24 PM May 4th 2011
I edited two things about Dr. Maki and I hope the changes I made are acceptable: 1.) One troper wrote Maki burned his sister just because she was getting married and "couldn't spend as much time with him". To me, the episode implied that Hitomi was completely abandoning her brother ("Even if I'm gone, think of her [the doll] as me. It'll be fine, because you're a genius!")) 2.) I don't think Maki can create Yummies out of candle holders. ^^ Rather, his ability is to create Yummies from nothingness, representing the desire of the purple Core Medals.
Kaneharo
04:34:59 AM Jun 22nd 2011
edited by Kaneharo
It isn't so much that he's creating it from the candle holder, it's more of an item that represents one's destroyed desire or dream. In this case, that may have been the candle holder that he used to set his sister on fire.
Rishfee
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10:44:29 AM Apr 13th 2011
Would Sendou In* attempting to help fight the Yummy in #28, claiming that the Kamen Riders were for Shocker to defeat, count as Enemy Mine, The Only One Allowed to Defeat You, or both?
JProllz
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08:45:50 PM Jan 31st 2011
edited by JProllz
Do the Condor and Batta (Grasshopper) Medals' powers count as Body Horror? I mean, they do perform some pretty gruesome-in-hindsight deformations (splitting his calves in three parts and super-condensing them, respectively).
Infinix
10:07:09 PM Jan 31st 2011
edited by Infinix
I suppose. Once again, the blame goes to the toy designs. Though from what I can see, what Batta Legs seem to do is to morph and extend his shoes specifically; granted, his feet still gets "squished", but it's a little less scary to think this way.
JProllz
05:36:15 AM Feb 1st 2011
Really? When I go to rewatch the episode I remember him activate the Batta legs, it looks like his entire calves get compressed to barely the width of a human leg-bone (whatever bone is in the calves). Then there's the Kujaku legs, which we recently saw splits both calves along vertically into thirds, and then rotates the outer two thirds past 180 degrees.
EddieAtTheGov
07:29:31 AM Feb 1st 2011
I know I was thinking, "my god, his f'ing legs!"

Infinix
10:58:54 AM Feb 1st 2011
Hehe. "Involuntary limb shapeshifting included with the superpower package", I suppose.

I watched the very first Scanning Charge in #3, with the Batta Legs. Neither of us were exactly wrong. The things is, nothing happens to his shins/calves technically; they just automatically bend up as the feet shifted into "stilts". I should know; I have the figure which lets you transform the Batta Legs in the same way, albeit a bit awkwardly. See here.
Ryulong
10:55:31 PM Feb 18th 2011
Kujaku are arms. Condor are legs.
Infinix
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12:07:33 AM Jan 20th 2011
The laconic entry is changed recently: "Kamen Rider Insert Coins VS an army of Ayn Rand kaiju."

For those unfamiliar, would whoever wrote that down explain in which context the name "Ayn Rand" is used?
Psyga315
05:37:35 PM Jan 23rd 2011
I think it has to do with Objectivism.
Infinix
11:57:19 PM Jan 23rd 2011
edited by Infinix
Eh? Greeed and Objectivism? Mind explaining a bit more? Because the "desires" the Greeed feed on is, as far as I can see, anything but objective. Aren't those desires subjective, i.e: varying from person to person?
Kalle
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11:03:01 PM Jan 19th 2011
Regarding the Panda Medal, this Ganbaride promo shows it used in gameplay (it gives OOO a ... bellyflop move? what) so maybe that's all there is to it?
Infinix
11:33:25 PM Jan 19th 2011
Could be. The problem is that it's a bit too early to tell.
JProllz
04:07:35 PM Jan 22nd 2011
Episode 18 has Date pull out a Sasori/Scorpion Cell Medal. Going by a "all medals come in Core and Cell variety" bit, does anybody have info on this Scorpion Medal? Is there any in existence?
Infinix
12:56:12 AM Jan 23rd 2011
The Movie. Shrimp, Crab and Scorpion. I sure they're listed under Combo Platter Powers and Animal Motifs. As for what powers it has, though, I don't know.
fumine
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02:07:09 PM Jan 4th 2011
I was wondering if there is a trope describing the "Multi-King" plot situation? This spoiler was found in pretty much every summary of the show, but the fact that a Greeed can use the power of more than their own Core Medals has only been revealed in recent episodes.
Infinix
04:01:27 PM Jan 4th 2011
Maybe we should wait a bit. Like you said, it's only beginning to be hinted around #15-16. It might be too early to say anything about it for now. But if you don't mind a bit of speculation, it certainly sounds like "All Your Powers Combined".
fumine
05:02:18 PM Jan 4th 2011
No, no - I meant the whole PLOT of the "Multi-King", not the powers. ^^ "There's also a prophecy that whoever obtains every Core Medal shall become the destined "Multi King" of the Greeed." [from tvtropes] This is written in most summaries all over the internet and it put the fandom ahead in terms of the plot. It took them 16 episodes to just hint at the fact that the scientists who created the medals had bigger plans for them, no "Multi King" or "prophecy" mentioned yet. That sounds like a spoiler to me...
Infinix
05:23:33 PM Jan 4th 2011
Yes, certainly a case of "Trailers Always Spoil". Except we don't know when that's gonna pop up.
178.191.116.23
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08:49:46 AM Jan 4th 2011
edited by 178.191.116.23
Is Ankh's "Verbal Tic" worth mentioning in the character page? He reminds me of Wakana when he does that. *tch*

Other tropes that would make sense for him would be "Improbable Hairstyle" (sleeps in a park, falls into a river and always has perfect hair...does he keep a curling iron in that arm?) and perhaps also "Blond Guys Are Evil".
Infinix
10:42:27 AM Jan 4th 2011
edited by Infinix
I don't think Ankh does the "Tch" after every sentence; try filing that under "Character Tic". And yes, I'd say he also qualifies for "Improbable Hairstyle", "Anime Hair" and so far, partially "Blond Guys Are Evil".
fumine
12:51:22 PM Jan 4th 2011
Thank you for your help, I edited it. ^^
Ryulong
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07:45:11 PM Dec 29th 2010
Realy Infinix. I'll give you "Latoratah" instead of "Latorartar". But changing it to "Ratoratah" I don't agree with. The names are derpy enough in the original Japanese, but they don't need to be removed further from the official names than they already are.
Infinix
01:25:21 AM Dec 30th 2010
edited by Infinix
I used "Ra" because it's the show's pronunciation. Simple. And there's no "La" syllable in "Lion"; "Ra", on the other hand, there is in "Raion". See what happened to the Transformation Tune under Ear Worm when you changed to "L"? Just doesn't match.

But hey, I told you this page was never official. Don't sweat stuff like that.
Ryulong
11:04:37 PM Dec 30th 2010
edited by Ryulong
La-I-On. I know this page is not official, but it's just the L/R thing. Just because it's not pronounced like "Li-Tora-Tah" doesn't mean "Ra-Tora-Tah" should be used.
Infinix
01:59:46 AM Dec 31st 2010
What? I don't understand your logic. It's how the show says it, it makes sense phonetically, what more do you need?
NekoLLX
02:03:40 AM Dec 31st 2010
it has to do with there theme songs, each song's name drop is phonetically similar to the combo name

Sun Goes Up Sun Goz So Get it Right Gikiri ride the right on Ra Tora Ta

  • Don't think i got the names exactly right but you get the gist
Infinix
02:13:51 AM Dec 31st 2010
Got to Keep It Real - GataKiriBa
Ride on Right Time - RaToraTah
Sun Goes Up - SaGoZo

Yeah, that's one more consistency, isn't it?
EddieCurrent
03:23:49 AM Dec 31st 2010
Gotta agree with Infinix and Nekko here- until we see an official romanization otherwise, Ra is the clearest translitteration. Though Japanese phonenes do make this fun.
Infinix
07:20:56 AM Dec 31st 2010
The problem is that there is an official iteration: "Latorartar". I decided to tweak accordingly because that name makes almost no sense, in addition to being non-descriptive: There's no "La" syllable in "Lion", there's no second "R" in "Tora", and there's no "R" in "Cheetah" either. Besides, it's general knowledge that Toei likes to use Engrish whether correct or not, so that's another reason for Woolseyism.
Ryulong
01:21:52 AM Jan 2nd 2011
edited by Ryulong
Exactly. There are official translations but Infinix has taken it upon himself to ignore them outright. Toei and Bandai have chosen Latorartar, Sagohzo, and more recently Tajadol. Toei has chosen to use "La" for this because it's identically pronounced to "Ra". Just because they didn't make the names have "Rai" in the beginning so it's pronounced like the first syllable of "Lion" does not automatically make it a Woolseyism. If Engine Sentai Goonger has "Birca" on it when his name is "Baruka", along with all of the other translation stretches, there's no reason this page should not have Latorartar and Sagohzo and Tajadol.
Infinix
04:22:51 AM Jan 2nd 2011
edited by Infinix
"TaJaDol"... huh? Dude, I don't know if you're a native English speaker, but just drop this. There's no "H" in "Gorilla"; there's no "A" in "Lion", second "R" in "Tora" or "R" in "Cheetah; and there's no "L" in "Condor". There's no way I'm using that broken English on this page. I've given you multiple reasons for taking liberties; in fact, again and again, publicly and privately. I preferred not to say this, but I'll be direct: If you have no other reason than "It's not official." or "I don't like how it looks.", just forget about it. Go to Wikipedia; they'll accept anything official without a second thought.

Note: I used "Birca" because it's a combination of "Bike" and "Orca" or a light twist on "Iruka", and it makes sense either way. Since that was in a kid's show with lots of wordplay, the twist on "Iruka" didn't matter that much.
Ryulong
05:25:45 PM Jan 2nd 2011
I was born in the good old US of A thank you very much. And yes, there's no H in Gorilla, no A in Lion, no L in Condor, but that's what Toei is going with. And why do you get to make every single fucking decision anyway? I already have all of the official names and whatnot on Wikipedia because I'm the only one with the best grasp of the rules and the English language there to write about it.

Why decide that this season/series/show/money printer should not use the Engrilish Toei and Bandai like to throw around?
Infinix
06:16:01 PM Jan 2nd 2011
edited by Infinix
I don't consider myself to be the center of decisions on any of the pages on TV Tropes; nobody ever appointed me in such a position either. However, I'm someone who made the page, check it daily and moderate/edit accordingly to be understandable for both Tropers and outsiders alike. That and probably because I've been here long enough and made some useful changes that people generally don't see my edits all that harmful.

The main reason I decided to throw down a standard is because there was no standard in the beginning, and nobody bothered. Medals are written in both English and Japanese; form names are just chaotic, the worst offender being RaToraTah and his romanized cousins. At least now there's a single standard the page follows. And it's doing well so far.

If you're thinking that I don't wanna use Toei/Bandai's Engrish, I'll assure that it's not strictly the case. You don't see me tinkering around with TaToBa or GataKiriBa. And I accepted "Gamel" and "Mezool" just fine, since it's consistent with the light plays on Greeeds' related verbs. I take the good and simple parts of both official terms and Woolseyisms and try to combine them accordingly; I used most of the official names on Go-onger page, didn't I? I want the pages I moderate to make sense, and that's all.

And about the Combo names: Of course I can see those are the English names Toei chose; that's a no-brainer. It's synonymous with "These are official names."; saying that changes nothing. Do you know how much they're used practically? So far, everyone's using whatever they want, even toy vendors who can see the name clearly. Why? Because when most people search for these forms, they use the pronunciations. No wonder: They contradict from both the general formula of Combo names composed of syllables from all three animals, and the transformation songs, not to mention being less descriptive.

You're an occasional contributor here, Ryulong; there's nothing wrong with that, but you don't know the page as well as I do. What I suggest is to put these official names under "Spell My Name with an S" - RaToraTah resides there since around the beginning, in fact. - and just drop this topic altogether. This is a trivial matter. Whether this page uses official terms or not is nothing that impacts the creators or their official information. If people want official info, they'll go to Wikipedia; TV Tropes is certainly not the first choice for that.
Infinix
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10:26:35 AM Dec 16th 2010
Something I'm wondering: Don't some of the tropers here have anything to add for the trope "And the Fandom Rejoiced"? Or is it just too early?
JProllz
03:16:01 PM Dec 16th 2010
Nothing from the fandom communities I'm aware of. Anybody else? Also, doesn't that page say "please don't list as a trope"?
Infinix
09:05:09 PM Dec 16th 2010
Oh, they do now? Sorry. Didn't know about that.
EddieCurrent
06:31:55 AM Dec 17th 2010
Yeah, examples go straight to the "Rejoice" page.
Infinix
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07:33:56 AM Dec 16th 2010
edited by Infinix
I just saw Kamen Rider BIRTH's info on Wikipedia. What I'm wondering is about his CLAWS equipments; aside from their "equipment names", they seem to have "secondary" names: Solent, Salamander, Vermilion, Brighton and Haze. Is there some sort of Meaningful Name or Theme Naming in those?

I know Solent is a strait and Brighton is a beach, both near/in UK... I think. Vermillion is a common name for MANY rivers in North America. Salamander sounds like a lake name, but I can't remember where. And Haze? Has anyone heard of large bodies of water with these names?
fumine
02:24:57 PM Jan 4th 2011
I smell a water theme (but where is the connection to KR Birth??). I found a Salamander Lake in Oregon, but zero about anything Haze (other than the explanation that it might just mean "mist"). Sounds a bit vague so far...I guess we'll just have to wait and see if someone else can solve the mystery.
NekoLLX
03:28:33 PM Jan 4th 2011
so you don't get the connection between Birth and Water...well er...don't ask about the birds and the bees then...
Infinix
03:54:56 PM Jan 4th 2011
edited by Infinix
About "Haze": I saw some sources translate it as "Hayse". And there are a number of hits, a couple of them being rivers, both in Canada.

@Neko: Birds and bees? Is that a metaphor for predation? :P
fumine
05:08:37 PM Jan 4th 2011
@Neko: What I meant was: I don't see a connection between the "equipment names" taken straight from a construction site and random bodies of water for the "secondary names". ^^ @Infinix: Writer's must be into geography... I want to try the things they smoke.
Infinix
05:27:05 PM Jan 4th 2011
edited by Infinix
I believe anything related to the designs are attributed to PLEX, one of Bandai's subsidiaries, and not the writing staff. But yes, I don't see a connection either. These are more akin to "code names"  *, so maybe they just picked a random theme since they don't really matter.
Infinix
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12:49:09 AM Dec 14th 2010
Something I'm wondering if I should experiment with: Just like the way I split the "Recurring Super Sentai Tropes" and "Series-specific tropes" on Samurai Sentai Shinkenger page, should I split the page into "Rider specific" (Motifs, first and foremost; and many tropes relating to their powers, designs and abilities.) and "Story specific" sections?
Psyga315
06:39:17 AM Dec 14th 2010
I think you should.
JProllz
10:13:51 AM Dec 14th 2010
I agree. With the way OOO's powers are, he'll have more than enough entries as a rider to have a good amount of the page of his own (along with the upcoming Kamen Rider Birth).
Infinix
10:22:06 AM Dec 14th 2010
edited by Infinix
Ok then. I'll get on to it ASAP. If it works, we can apply that to other pages as well.

EDIT: I've done the "preliminary" edit. It doesn't turn out too difficult, though I'd like to make clear the distinction between the two sections. The "Rider" section is essentially what the "Recurring Super Sentai Tropes" is to SS; generally, tropes about the Riders' designs, powers and arsenals can go here, but not character traits/personalities. Those belong in the "Story" section.

I'll admit that I did have some doubts splitting the sections with some tropes because Kobayashi's writing the merchandise aspects (Can-droids, for example) into the show, thinning the line between "purely asthetic" and "crucial to the plot". So do take a look at what I missed and what could have been shifted. But hey, at least people can see the general Rider tropes readily, so that's a plus.

Oh, and some tropes may overlap between the two sections, like the Ear Worm entry for example: It's got the songs which do not seem to fit in Rider section, and the OOO Driver sounds which certainly do.
SparkyYoungUpstart
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09:27:07 AM Dec 11th 2010
I'm confused. When the page is referring to the medals, it's said a mix of English and Japanese names. Are we using only the Japanese ones or only the English ones?
Infinix
09:41:28 AM Dec 11th 2010
If you're referring to how the page renders the Medal names, I try to keep them in English since Combo names alone are confusing enough for non-Japanese speaking people. With some Medals, I take a bit of liberty to mimic their fluency in Japanese; like "Hopper" for "Batta" and "Octo" for "Tako".

So yeah, best kept in English, the way I see it. This is an English wiki, after all.
JProllz
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07:38:38 AM Dec 2nd 2010
Another potential problem. If you're not aware of "Cakeboss", then here http://aesirsubs.wordpress.com/articles/cakeboss-archive/ familiarize yourself with it. Now the problem is that it could too easily get out of hand in the Memetic Badass/Mutation entry, where people have (and probably will continue) to add more cakeboss stuff in. I propose this as a problem because Cakeboss is entirely parody and non-canon. As hilarious as it is, we're here for tropes related to Kamen Rider OOO, not Cakeboss. I propose the deletion of tropes sprouting purely from Cakeboss, whether put under Memetic Mutation/Badass/etc, and not from OOO. Tropes of cakeboss are not always tropes of OOO.
Infinix
09:45:27 AM Dec 2nd 2010
I agree. The memetic version of CakeBoss is purely something a group of people (however large that may be) derived from the character. In other words, it's out of the series.
Psyga315
11:41:31 AM Dec 2nd 2010
We should make a page for the Cake Boss meme, it seems to be becoming a work in of itself.
JProllz
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04:20:58 PM Nov 22nd 2010
Are we going to have a line for every one of OOO's finishing moves? I mean, look at all the possible combos the main article admits to, and you can see why this could be a bad idea.
Psyga315
04:42:59 PM Nov 22nd 2010
Hm... Maybe have a list for the medals effects upon a scanning charge.
Gweskoyen
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04:04:32 AM Nov 21st 2010
Okay, why was my link to "Anything Goes" on blip.tv reverted? It has better quality than the Youtube version AND it is the full version, and youtube links are known to disappear quickly.
Infinix
04:49:58 AM Nov 21st 2010
Good question. It's definitely of good video quality, and Blip isn't as sensitive as Youtube about copyright issues. Maybe because your link is a fan-made MV? How about uploading an MP3 or just the original opening? (I'm not the one who changed the link, mind you.)
Psyga315
05:07:59 AM Nov 21st 2010
Ah... My bad, I was directed to another video entirely and thought it was a troll that did it so I reverted the changes. I will change them back.
Gweskoyen
06:35:10 AM Nov 21st 2010
Ah, okay then.
Infinix
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01:58:01 AM Nov 4th 2010
edited by Infinix
Ryulong, what's wrong with the way names are rendered in the page? I don't blame you for not knowing why they're rendered that way, since you rarely show up on the page(s) (mostly to "correct" names); if you didn't know, you should have asked first, but you just edited them out of the blue without even discussing.

And yes, I know they're not official terms. If you wanna ask why the renderings are different, the simplest answer is "understandability".

Medal names are rendered in their English translations, since this is an English wiki. This also applies to Yummy names. I don't mind you adding the Japanese names in their list near the page's end though; if anybody wants to know the Japanese term, they can go there. Nothing problematic here.

Combo names use camel-cases because they're combinations of three Japanese words. Without the camel-case to separate each word, it gets jumbled. It's not like the camel-case is hard to type either; just sandwich the word in "[= =]". Easy.

And about Gameru and Mezūru's names; the ones you gave (the same ones from Wikipedia) aren't even official ones. The Greeed don't have official English renderings. The problem is that those Wikipedia renderings ruin the names' meanings.

Lastly, I understand that you prefer "official correctness", but TV Tropes isn't Wikipedia. WP may take anything "official" without a second thought, but TT likes to play around, thus its own renderings. Next time, DO ask.
Ryulong
02:19:53 PM Nov 4th 2010
The CamelCase isn't used (all names are parsed in CRUISECONTROL) and neither is "LaToraTah". I'm just trying to make the things the official ones like they do on WP.

And Gamel's and Mezool's names are official because those spellings appear in episode 7. I'm trying to get a screencap to show that right now.
Ryulong
02:42:37 PM Nov 4th 2010
edited by Ryulong
YouTube quality and kisama-tachi fansubs, but it's still legible. And I saw these in the raw, so it's not something they added afterwards.
Psyga315
03:23:51 PM Nov 4th 2010
Can't argue with that logic.
Infinix
09:49:20 PM Nov 4th 2010
edited by Infinix
Well, fair enough for the G & M's names then.

And to be honest, I'm not completely against official names. However, Toei's not known for a good grasp of English, and when their own romanizations/renderings don't make sense, I consider picking/making up something more sensible. OOO is a case like that.
Ryulong
02:16:42 PM Nov 5th 2010
Well, Toei seems to be sticking with "Latorartar" for now. And I'm fairly certain that the next Combo is Sagohzo. To be honest, the CamelCase only works with TaToBa. GataKiriBa, LaTora(r)Ta(r|h), SaGohZo, ShaUTa, CoraKaWani, TaJaDoru, and ToTeraNoZauru don't really work.
Infinix
03:49:51 PM Nov 5th 2010
edited by Infinix
Well, I wouldn't say it doesn't work, because it still shows the split between the parts of the name. Like I mentioned earlier, for the sake of understandability, and also for consistency in the page, I'd opt to sticking with the CamelCase, at least until a better method is discovered. And hey, it's not like Toei's gonna come down here and sue me/us for that; they're not exactly doing a superb job with their namings either.

And are those new form names? Where are you finding those from? Not because I doubt those, mind you - ShaUTa, for example, is pretty obvious after the Medals' revelation; I just couldn't find info on those as they're not even hinted in the series yet.
Ryulong
09:25:11 PM Nov 7th 2010
edited by Ryulong
I just think that CamelCase is only going to work with the mixed Combos (which I've been told today are "Random Combos"). So TaToBa, TakaKiriTah, and GataToraZo work, but ShaUTa is going to be awkward and ugly.

Shauta is Mezool's group, Tajador is Ankh's group (there's going to be a Peacock [Kujaku] and Condor Medal), Corakawani is some unknown reptile Greeed group (Cobra, Turtle [Kame], Crocodile [Wani]), Toteranozauru is the dinosaur form (Triceratops, Pteranodon, Tyrannosaurus).
Infinix
10:13:13 PM Nov 7th 2010
edited by Infinix
I know what you mean about ShaUTa, since it looks like the odd one out. But if we keep the Camel-case consistent for the page, the feeling will pass eventually. The thing is, just before recently, I tried using hyphens between words, like Gata-Kiri-Ba; however, other editors keep reverting those again and again, so I just sort of gave up. Quite a shame, because hyphens make the Combo names simple, clear and neat, even though it's not the official one-word format. If the hyphen format sounds good to you, I've got no objections.
Ryulong
11:49:48 AM Nov 8th 2010
Oh. People have been mucking around with the O Scanner, finding all of the hidden sound bytes. I think it's just better to go with one word without CamelCase, because frankly it's a lot easier to write. But then, we're going to be arguing about that for a while now.
Infinix
10:26:28 PM Nov 8th 2010
[Nod] [Sigh...] I'm starting to feel pointless about arguing how to write a particular name in a Tokusatsu. Let's just ask the others then: Single word, CamelCase or Hyphen? I'm still for Camel and Hyphen, but for the sake of the page consistency, I'll just go with the majority's choice.

Dang it, Toei! If you wanna use English/Romanization in your show, at least do it properly!
JProllz
topic
09:31:33 AM Nov 1st 2010
Kamakiri vs Tora Ok, there HAS to be source for that "Kamakiri medal outclasses Tora medal" someone put into the CMOA entry. All we've seen is that Eiji doesn't use the Tora medal very much and that he does use the Kamakiri medal often. Does this necessarily mean Kamakiri "outclasses" it? No, not at all. Maybe Eiji just prefers the backhanded blades of the Kamakiri. Maybe he doesn't realize that he'd have more reach if he used Tora instead - he IS a drifter not a fighter. Until someone argues indisputably (read: source or compelling argument) that Kamakiri definitely outclasses Tora, the strikeout text is staying there.
Infinix
11:55:28 AM Nov 1st 2010
edited by Infinix
I doubt there is a source on that; Core Medals are only differentiated by their location on the holder's body, and not by their uses. All are shown to have their own uses already. And a matter this trivial is nothing worth arguing to begin with, so just drop the argument for the sake of a simpler, cleaner page. Please.
Psyga315
topic
11:51:48 AM Oct 14th 2010
Should we find a good replacement for the Cheetah color before the Reptile medals (which are orange) come or wait to see their colors?
Axnyr
07:56:19 AM Oct 17th 2010
edited by Axnyr
I say find a good replacement now, especially given that the Lion Medal is much closer to orange than Cheetah.

EDIT: I'd like to put forward Khaki and Yellow as options for the new Cheetah color. Forget I said that! Neither of these show up well on the white background.
Infinix
01:50:44 AM Oct 19th 2010
edited by Infinix
I suggest just restricting the colors of the same category in just its basic color, like this:

  • Stag-Mantis-Hopper
  • Lion-Tiger-Cheetah
  • Rhino-Gorilla-Elephant

Let's face it: there's still Orange and Purple to come. Given that TV Tropes code doesn't seem to support hexadecimal color editing, it'll be much less work; and even if it does support it, having to type "#********" every time isn't practical. Besides, anyone can easily tell a Core Medal's category with its color spectrum and animal.

So, with all due respect, let's just save ourselves a boatload of complications.
Psyga315
04:13:42 AM Oct 19th 2010
Hm... I agree.
EddieCurrent
08:17:03 AM Oct 19th 2010
Third the motion, though that suggested color for the cat medals is a little hard to read on my screen.
Infinix
11:05:49 PM Oct 20th 2010
edited by Infinix
Well, we can make the letters bold, if it helps. Goldenrod is a bit "dry" a color for a Yellow substitute.
Psyga315
04:15:02 AM Oct 21st 2010
It looks much better now. Thanks.
EddieCurrent
04:40:28 AM Oct 21st 2010
Agreed.
Infinix
05:57:17 AM Oct 21st 2010
Well, if you need to "polish" a page, you know who to call~ ^_^
EddieCurrent
08:52:51 AM Oct 21st 2010
So... tempting...

(a green ghost floats by in the background)
TerminusEst13
topic
12:10:09 AM Oct 12th 2010
Please don't tell me we're going to have a Crowning Moment of Awesome per every single episode.
Infinix
12:54:17 AM Oct 12th 2010
Probably not every single one, but depends on what the episodes present. And it's not the first time either; Samurai Sentai Shinkenger also went the same way that it got enough to have its own C Mo A page. The fact that both series are written by the same writer might also be a factor here.

If a moment is presented well enough to be awesome, nothing wrong with writing it down.
TerminusEst13
11:54:32 PM Oct 13th 2010
It is if it starts clogging up half the page. The last thing we need is for people to start taking every single mildly cool thing and parading it around as a Crowning Moment of Awesome, like in Order of the Stick.

I'm up for starting a C Mo A page already.
Infinix
12:47:25 AM Oct 14th 2010
edited by Infinix
Sure, why not? Actually, me and Eddie Current already have plans to start it once the page gathered enough moments. Making it sooner is fine too, since, according to my experience with Kobayashi's stories, there will be quite a number by the series' end.
EddieCurrent
12:03:32 PM Oct 14th 2010
We had to start one for Samurai Sentai Shinkenger around, what, Act 17 at latest? Sometime around Genta's debut.
Infinix
01:49:43 PM Oct 14th 2010
edited by Infinix
I do vaguely remember that it's around that point, yes.

I'll at least predict that OOO will have at least equal, if not more, because it's got more room for writing, unlike Super Sentai which is restricted to a strict "mould" every episode. If C Mo As start to clog, just give them their own page.
JProllz
topic
12:09:35 PM Oct 8th 2010
Edited the "Puppeteer Parasite" article. It's too early to tell if Kazari's parasite yummy always cause insatiable hunger, so I had to remove it. Reason for doubt is that the yummy was amplifying the natural behavior of the person who was possessed.
Kaneharo
topic
07:55:54 PM Oct 7th 2010
edited by Kaneharo
Ok, with the types of Yummy(s)(ies [sp?]) that have been seen so far, considering they appear to be based off each Greed's 3/5 coins, does that mean they may eventually repeat themselves?
Infinix
12:19:31 AM Oct 8th 2010
edited by Infinix
Category-wise, that's what would seem like, so far. But it's only 5 episodes in; hard to tell for sure right now.

Oh, but if you're wondering if the same monster suits will be re-used or not, I don't think they'll do so without a good reason, particularly an in-series justification. Monster concepts may be overlapping over the decades of Toku development, but there hasn't been a shortage of designs in a series.
Infinix
topic
09:47:46 PM Sep 8th 2010
Does anyone have a trope for the Greeed's color-coded curtains? They seem to be there for symbolism and dramatic presentation, but doesn't seem to be part of the story otherwise. (It might get lampshades in the future though.)
Psyga315
02:22:37 PM Sep 9th 2010
Infinix
01:04:56 AM Sep 11th 2010
edited by Infinix
No, no. What I meant isn't about the colors; it's about the curtains as "abstract" props; they're definitely there as props, but they're just "imaginary". Nobody seems to adress or acknowledge their existence; they're just there for symbolism.

It might change in the future though: Eiji lampshaded the O-Scanner's singing; who's to say he wouldn't do the same with the curtains? On the other hand, the O-Scanner isn't an imaginary prop; it's an actively "participating" prop.
EddieCurrent
06:25:46 AM Sep 11th 2010
Painting the Fourth Wall may be applicable.
Infinix
01:33:07 PM Sep 11th 2010
It does seem like the best match, yes.
Midonin
topic
03:15:45 PM Sep 5th 2010
Why do we need to have the animal names in Japanese, then English? Shouldn't they just be in English?
ActionZero
06:20:04 AM Sep 6th 2010
I would suggest swapping it to the other way around, keeping the japanese names in brackets given how the names of OOO's forms are made up from the japanese names.
134.10.114.171
10:27:04 PM Oct 2nd 2010
It is all in Japanese. It's just that the Japanese word for say, cheetah, is 'チーター.' It's basically a transliteration of the English word.
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