Main Bastard Boyfriend Discussion

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05:19:11 PM Jan 8th 2013
From the Literature section.
Let's just say that no transwomen literature is a transwoman literature without this character. These characters can be of either gender.
What is (a) transwomen/transwoman literature and do specific examples of this exist? "Transwomen literature" sounds like it's referring to a book about someone's experiences of being a trans woman, like transitioning and so on, and I don't really see how a Bastard Boyfriend could possibly be a necessary part of that.

So basically what I'm saying is that I find this example incoherent, but I'm not just gonna cut it because I personally find it weird.
10:23:49 PM Sep 23rd 2012
Are there any stories of such people in real life, where the girl accepted her bb. Also, what are the best stories which involves this trope?
11:21:26 AM May 5th 2012
  • Sonic the Hedgehog and Shad-Amy fans do NOT get along well. If a fan-fiction writer is a Shadamy fan, you KNOW Sonic will become this. Also ties in with [1].

This sounds like Character Derailment into Domestic Abuser via Ron the Death Eater, not Bastard Boyfriend. If someone familiar with Sonic fanfic can rewrite to explain how the trope applies, please do.
07:44:34 AM Mar 23rd 2012
Western Animation

These are kid-oriented Western animated series, I find it hard to believe these characters are presented as fetishized, sexually titillating objects of desire. Can anyone provide more complete writeups to establish their appropriateness for this trope?
09:44:40 AM Jan 11th 2012
Questionable example for discussion:

  • Chris Keller in Oz for Beecher. He kills every guy that Beecher sleeps with and the guy who murdered Beecher's father, has Beecher murder Schillinger unknowingly, acts overly aggressive with him at times, on two occasions has knocked him out with a blow to the head when Beecher goes against his wishes and later handcuffs him to a chair away from other people where he forces a kiss on him, and finally murders the Aryans so that they don't pose a threat to him or Beecher anymore.

This does establish that Keller is a scary dangerous obsessive, but I'm not seeing the "sexy, fetishized, audience is supposed to think this is hot" part of the trope. On the other hand, I'm not that familiar with Oz. Does anyone more familiar with the series care to expand the writeup?
07:16:14 PM Oct 22nd 2011
Again, another prospect Edit War. This user (Babylon Whore) is apparently a rabid Ulquiorra/Orihime shipper who has vandalised other pages to delete any allusions to Ulquiorra's state as a Draco In Leather Pants, and has been involved in other Edit Wars (specifically in Die for Our Ship and Ship-to-Ship Combat. So she seems to not have learned from them.

11:33:46 AM Aug 12th 2011
edited by MarqFJA
From the description:

A Handy Chart to determine if a character is this trope:
Your guy is in love, and he demonstrates his love in an abusive or predatory manner. His love interest:
Problem: Stalker with a Crush and Stalking Is Love do not involve actual abusive/predatory acts, unlike this trope.
11:59:16 PM Jan 6th 2012
Uh...I don't know. Stalking sounds pretty predatory to me, and abusive too, if the stalker actually becomes your boyfriend...since stalking means obsessiveness and possessiveness, two emotions that can turn ugly very quickly.
05:12:49 AM Jan 7th 2012
edited by CrypticMirror
Yep, stalking is a predatory and aggressive act, no matter how "romantic" the ideas in the stalkers head. I've been the victim of a stalker, and it is not a pleasant thing, even when they think they are being "nice".
05:31:54 AM Jun 21st 2011
Prospect Edit War, putting it here for discussion. Also, it seems to me that one of them is the same anon who bashes the living shit out of Tsukasa in other pages.

07:14:56 AM Jun 4th 2010
"Western versions exist... " Male Gaze, maybe? I don't think they're that rare considering this thread [1]
05:33:39 AM Jun 21st 2011
... Huh? I don't see why Male Gaze automatically equals Bastard Boyfriend. Care to explain?
03:34:39 PM Apr 5th 2010
Does Melisande Shahrizai, from Kushiel's Legacy count as a female example?
07:15:48 PM Apr 5th 2010
Um, you'll NEVER see a female or a submissive version of this Trope since demographic is to Hetro girls only. But was makes you think she qualifies?
06:34:17 PM Mar 18th 2010
So can put in some Fanwork examples? I have found plenty.
08:07:08 AM Mar 19th 2010
Knock yourself out.