Discussion Main / BastardBoyfriend

Per TRS, this was merged with Bastard Girlfriend and Bespectacled Bastard Boyfriend into Fetishized Abuser, and Kichiku was spun off into an Anime Fanspeak page:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1644437714014834900&page=3#comment-71

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Switch with the Abusively Sexy Bastard redirectBastard Boyfriend, started by Xzenu on Nov 6th 2010 at 5:15:28 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Replace the Bastard / Bitch pair of gendered counterparts?, started by Xzenu on Nov 6th 2010 at 4:43:55 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

I don't understand why this trope exists. Abuse is not love and should not be ignored.

From the Literature section.

Let's just say that no transwomen literature is a transwoman literature without this character. These characters can be of either gender.

What is (a) transwomen/transwoman literature and do specific examples of this exist? "Transwomen literature" sounds like it's referring to a book about someone's experiences of being a trans woman, like transitioning and so on, and I don't really see how a Bastard Boyfriend could possibly be a necessary part of that.

So basically what I'm saying is that I find this example incoherent, but I'm not just gonna cut it because I personally find it weird.

Are there any stories of such people in real life, where the girl accepted her bb. Also, what are the best stories which involves this trope?

Archived TRS threads for this trope:

• https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1339001070002369100
• https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=2fq7gbb6qt2lyxm7r2kg8y37&page=1

Edited by lu127 Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

• Sonic the Hedgehog and Shad-Amy fans do NOT get along well. If a fan-fiction writer is a Shadamy fan, you KNOW Sonic will become this. Also ties in with [1].

This sounds like Character Derailment into Domestic Abuser via Ron the Death Eater, not Bastard Boyfriend. If someone familiar with Sonic fanfic can rewrite to explain how the trope applies, please do.

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Western Animation

• Vlad of Danny Phantom.
• Joker to Harley Quinn in Batman: The Animated Series. Type 1. All the way.

These are kid-oriented Western animated series, I find it hard to believe these characters are presented as fetishized, sexually titillating objects of desire. Can anyone provide more complete writeups to establish their appropriateness for this trope?

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Questionable example for discussion:

• Chris Keller in Oz for Beecher. He kills every guy that Beecher sleeps with and the guy who murdered Beecher's father, has Beecher murder Schillinger unknowingly, acts overly aggressive with him at times, on two occasions has knocked him out with a blow to the head when Beecher goes against his wishes and later handcuffs him to a chair away from other people where he forces a kiss on him, and finally murders the Aryans so that they don't pose a threat to him or Beecher anymore.

This does establish that Keller is a scary dangerous obsessive, but I'm not seeing the "sexy, fetishized, audience is supposed to think this is hot" part of the trope. On the other hand, I'm not that familiar with Oz. Does anyone more familiar with the series care to expand the writeup?

Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.

From the description:

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A Handy Chart to determine if a character is this trope:
Your guy is in love, and he demonstrates his love in an abusive or predatory manner. His love interest:

• Wants nothing to do with him: Stalker with a Crush
• Thinks his behavior is sooooo romantic: Stalking is Love

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Problem: Stalker with a Crush and Stalking is Love do not involve actual abusive/predatory acts, unlike this trope.

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Again, another prospect Edit War. This user (Babylon Whore) is apparently a rabid Ulquiorra/Orihime shipper who has vandalised other pages to delete any allusions to Ulquiorra's state as a Draco In Leather Pants, and has been involved in other Edit Wars (specifically in Die for Our Ship and Ship-to-Ship Combat. So she seems to not have learned from them.

• Ulquiorra Schiffer in Bleach is transformed into this in fanon. A really loud and creepy Vocal Minority among the Ulquiorra/Orihime fans is so enamoured with the idea of Ulquiorra sexily abusing a captive Orihime... that they bash the crap outta Orihime for preferring Ichigo in canon and claim that Ulquiorra is "a super cool and sexy feminist who doesn't abuse Orihime but is only hard on her to make her grow stronger, unlike Ichigo who makes her a weak and weepy piece of shit!". Much to the embarrassment of the Ulquiorra/Orihime shippers who like the Mind Game Ship approach instead and don't glamourise abuse. Apparently this has speead to this very wiki as Ulquiorra/Orihime rabidshippers have constantly tried to delete any comments alluding to this.

"Western versions exist... " Male Gaze, maybe? I don't think they're that rare considering this thread [1]

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Prospect Edit War, putting it here for discussion. Also, it seems to me that one of them is the same anon who bashes the living shit out of Tsukasa in other pages.

• Tsukasa Domyouji from Hana Yori Dango (AKA Boys Over Flowers): Starts off being really nasty to Tsukushi, including trying to have her raped and having her kidnapped for an impromptu makeover. Mellows out fairly early on, though. Though Near-Rape Experience as Rape Is Love up till pretty far into the series.
  • Actually, Tsukasa and Tsukushi's relationship is more of an example of Belligerent Sexual Tension than this trope, since Tsukushi actively opposes him and that's what turns him on.
    • Tsukasa hits her in the face and comes close to raping her on a number of occasions. Yes, they have Belligerent Sexual Tension, but that's more due to the fact that Tsukushi isn't a Love Martyr for her Bastard Boyfriend.

Does Melisande Shahrizai, from Kushiels Legacy count as a female example?

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So can put in some Fanwork examples? I have found plenty.

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