I just had an idea, and separated the Gooker Award winners (The In Vasion Angle, Diva Search 2004, Seth vs. Fiend, RETRIBUTION) from the rest of the entries. How do they look? Shall we include the missing entries too?
FTR, these are the missing entries pertaining to the WWE:
- 2003: Al Wilson, Torrie Wilson's father.
- 2004: The 2004 Raw Diva Search.
- 2005: Jim Ross' (kayfabe) firing and the resulting colonoscopy skit.
- 2007: Hornswoggle is revealed to be Vince McMahon's son.
- 2008: Mike Adamle's stint.
- 2009: The Chavo Guerrero/Hornswoggle feud.
- 2011: All things Michael Cole.
- 2014: The Bella Twins feud/VKM's "brass rings" comment (co-winners).
- 2015: The Rusev and Lana-Dolph Ziggler-Summer Rae Love Trapezoid/The "Divas Revolution" (which was about to win but lost in the end).
- 2016: Wrestle Mania 32.
- 2020: RETRIBUTION.
Seeing the Aleister Black example made me think we could add a folder exclusively for the WWE's treatment of successful NXT stars in the latter half of the millennium once they hit the main roster. Black wasn't the only example that spring to mind.
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Given what happened to Karrion Kross on his RAW debut? Without a doubt. Vince is actually sabotaging his own company out of petty deluded spite now.
Always expect the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised.
Looks like we have a looooooooooooot of archive digging to do, then...
Well I've already done a write-up on Kross (and also Keith Lee who was buried at the same time).
Always expect the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised.
Curiously enough, Parts Fun Known released this list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnMxCoHYqEY
I'm pretty sure the main page was cut by mistake.
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Sorry, I meant to start a discussion rather than reply.
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Boy, that Miz vs Damien Priest lumberjack match from Wrestlemania Backlash is definitely getting an entry here. The Miz and John Morrison both got eaten alive by zombies, and WWE played it completely seriously... before going on with the rest of the show.
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You know, the more I think about it, we're going to have to do an entire folder about RAW in 2021 (specifically the stretch leading up to and following WrestleMania), because this is quite possibly the single worst run the show has EVER had. Absolutely AWFUL television made by a company that has COMPLETELY lost the plot. It's just... mind-bogglingly bad.
Always expect the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised.
...and now Shayna Baszler has lost a match to Reginald the somellier, Nia Jax's boytoy. And then she had to cut a promo on a stupid spooky ragdoll. This show is almost Kafka-esque in its awfullness!
Always expect the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised.
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Should we make a separate folder detailing the two and a half year nightmare that was the Authority Arc?
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A new folder should be added: November 26, 2018, or "How I Learned How to Boycott RAW."
WWE Crown Jewel should be on the discussion. Even when Khashoggi was murdered, WWE could’ve backed away from Saudi Arabia. The card itself was a failure, especially the last three matches.
Are any of the Bray Wyatt related matches or angles bad enough to be on this page? The gimmick itself is a cool idea and he does what he can with it, but it does feel like almost every angle they try to write for him ends up being awful.
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Walking the Earth
- When Shawn Michaels turned on Marty Jannetty and split up the Rockers, a legend was born where a Tag Team died, and Michaels went on to become the most successful singles wrestlers in WWF/E history. This half-success, was all the justification WWE's ever needed to split tag teams for no other reason. Invariably, the tag team members never worked as singles, at best getting beatdown by monster heels over and over again and at worst, never being seen or heard from again. Among the victims: Men on a Mission, the Hardy Boyz (Matt and Jeff), Edge and Christian, Los Guerreros (Eddie Guerrero and Chavo Guerrero), The World's Greatest Tag Team, the Gatecrashers (Vance Archer and Curt Hawkins), the Colons, Cryme Tyme, the Basham Brothers, Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch, the Hart Dynasty, the Dude Busters, Deuce 'n Domino, London and Kendrick, The Prime Time Players and even The Dudley Boys. Very few of these guys managed to get over as singles competitors, most wound up less over than ever before, and the tag division only gets smaller and smaller each time a breakup happens. The other thing that nobody seems to remember is that the reason the Rockers split was because WWF thought they could get two singles stars out of the breakup - at the time of the breakup Jannetty was considered equal to Michaels in both ability and charisma. It was Jannetty's love of partying and "personal demons", as well as two different pushes interrupted by injuries, that ended up hamstringing his career. That, and it's possible for members of a unit to achieve individual success without severing said unit (El Santo of The Atomic Pair immediately comes to mind but the American Wolves and Briscoes of Ring of Honor, the Canadian Ninjas of SHIMMER and countless others serve as examples). Another major reason for this phenomenon was the attempt for former tag team partners/stablemates to earn the Triple Crown achievement, where a wrestler wins a Tag Team championship, an Intercontinental Championship (or other similar second-tier championship in different promotions), and a [insert promotion name here] World Championship (or Championship, depending on the promotion) in order to be recognized as a wrestling superstar.
Deleted the above entry because it's mostly a general rant about tag teams being split up over decades that makes no sense being on So Bad Its Horrible, even ignoring that splitting up some of those teams seemingly worked and that it's not specific to WWE. It's looks like it was added in 2010 or maybe even earlier when the standards for entry weren't as strict.
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I think the show Owen Hart died on being listed as a horrible PPV seems a bit misleading, since that entry really isn't about the show itself and more about the accident that happened on it. I think it should be moved to either the Gimmicks tab, since the accident happened while performing a stunt for the gimmick, or just to the Other tab.
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We should add the recent main even for Lesnar vs Orton at Summerslam. A match that was "fifteen years in the making" that had Lesnar giving absolutely lethargic German suplexes to Orton with Orton trying his best to salvage them and as a result, he often comes off as overselling! Only four moves besides Lesnar's lazy suplexes with one being Orton's signature spike DDT and both men's finishing moves! The worst table spots in the company's history with Lesnar simply shoving Lesnar onto the table and it exploding (which shouldn't really make it collapse in kayfabe) followed by Randy giving an RKO to Lesnar on the table and it barely even nudging. There is of course the ending where Lesnar starts demolishing Randy's head, causing him to violently bleed and end via TKO (because that's how to end a main event???)
On top of all of this, it made both men look absolutely weak. Lesnar basically encompassed all the criticisms made towards him for the past couple of months and Randy's hype from his return was absolutely ruined thanks to this match. An awful ten minute tragedy had fans absolutely livid
Should we add WWE Great American Bash 2004? I have seen that PPV critically bashed...everywhere. I often see it in lists of worsts WWE shows. I watched it myself and...no arguments here. It started an awful title reign through a dusty finish (JBL vs Eddie Guerrero) boring matches and the infamous concrete crypt match
Also, this may sound controversial but...should we really have Over the Edge 1999? Yes, Owen died but...what of the show itself? It may sound horrible...but we didn't put The Crow on the so bad its horrible page bexause Brandon Lee diedl Nowadays the WWE Network version removed any mentions of Owen, leaving just the show. Maybe modern audiences wil lthink differently about it. I don't know...
RIP Owen though
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I don't really remember much about show. Uh, Torrie Wilson and Dawn Marie had another match in spite of their repeated failures to have a good one, with the stipulation that Wilson's job was on the line not coming until the show itself, meaning no one could have been convinced to buy it for that reason.(bad buildup)
The Undertaker comes back as The Deadman only to almost lose to the Dudley Boys before making his comeback, winning and seemingly killing Paul Bearer for being a weakness.(I don't remember that being so horrible but I do remember tons of complaints about it, when it happened. Not sure if that's AWFUL HORRID vs standard nitpicking though)
Eddie vs JBL, yeah JBL was a pretty terrible champion but then came John Cena WWE title reign and suddenly JBL had all these fans. Uh, that was the match where JBL busted open Guerrero with a chair while he and Eddie were tied together with a bull rope right? The one everyone said was going to be horrible from the get go so JBL went and promised the blood was going to flow like a river(as if that automatically makes a match good) then made jokes about his adjective Latino blood afterward(why was I ever a WWE fan?)
Whatever, if you are willing to rewatch the Great American Bash 2004 and type up an in depth entry on why it was horrible be my guest, I won't contest it unless you make me remember something else about it that wasn't horrible.
I'll rewatch the show. If it's just kinda bad but not horrible I wont put it.
Rewatched, my word, it is worse than I remembered.
It felt like a really bad episode of smackdown, not a PPV?
Almost every match sucked, with the exceptions of Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo and the US championship fatal 4 way. Even the latter is really bad with Booker T and Rene Dupree just standing around outside the ring in a FATAL 4WAY
I will write an in depth article later but my word
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Can the 2015 royal rumble count due to #Cancel WWE Network being the biggest trend afterwards, and losing so many subscriptions, the website crashed?
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Well, what was so bad about it? This trope concerns itself with both reaction and cause.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
People knew from day 1 if Daniel Bryan did not win the Royal Rumble, Roman Reigns would, and not only that, but not only Daniel Bryan, but also not only Dean Ambrose, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler, and Alexander Rusev were all eliminated in the worst ways, just picked up like a bag of trash and thrown over, no fight whatsoever. Booing was everywhere after Daniel Bryan was eliminated and were still cheering for him minutes after he was eliminated. "Bullshit" Chants and "CM punk" chants despite the latter never being in WWE since last royal rumble, "We want Rusev" chants towards the end. Yes, the crowd would rather see an anti-american Heel win over the babyface. Not Even the Rock coming to the rumble could save the show. Not even Kofi Kingston, the walking royal rumble highlight reel could pull off a cool spot. Roman Reigns is still getting boos afterwards. I'm also mostly talking about the Royal Rumble match itself, rather than the whole PPV. While the PPV had rather underwhelming card, it was nowhere as bad as that match. it has lost 300,000 subscriptions, so quickly, the website could not count them.
WWE fans seem unusually defensive here. How exactly was the Dave Batista Big Show WWECW match anything but horrible? It had pretty much all the same problems as Lesnar Goldberg Wrestlemania XX, being slow, uneventful and and verbally shat on by a hostile audience while commentary tried to pass it off as a good match.
If you're going to remove the bad moments for not being "horrible enough", shouldn't you be putting them up for nomination to Wall Banger? Eddiesploitation, apparently appealed to someone, since it was removed on the grounds that "merely" being offensive is not in of itself worthy of this page, but if so, who did it appeal to? And at the very least, it should get mentioned for wall banger in that not only was it tasteless, not only was it seemingly never ending but Eddie Guerrero disapproved of doing anything remotely like it with Art Barr so it couldn't even have been argued to be a decent way to honor his memory.
We need to talk about this:
- The 2014 Royal Rumble. The match itself wasn't as bad as it was predictable that Batista would win. The fans wanted Daniel Bryan to win, but he wasn't in the rumble at all.
Horrible?
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Yes, don't see anything Horrible there.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Yes it was horrible. It only wasn't bad as in no one severely screwed up but the crowd dumping made it nigh unwatchable in a non parody context. The crowd showed it was failing to appeal to its niche ("wrestling fans" who still watch WWE, the people who pay to keep the company alive) pretty well.
The whole match wasn't horrible (they were somewhat into it at the start), but don't say there wasn't anything horrible. It would have at least three contenders for Wall Banger if the wrestling sections weren't locked. (it would be one in a series of them concerning both Batista and Bray Wyatt-as in protecting the latter for the main event while cutting the legs of the younger, better conditioned, more charismatic man who isn't leaving to be in a Marvel movie) and concerning WWE's continued trend of denying its customers. That wouldn't have been such an issue if WWE had not been the ones to expose the business down to its skeletal workings, essentially letting fans know the show only works with their whims.
Would the Montreal Screwjob really apply as being "So Bad It's Horrible"? It was a pretty shitty thing to do, but it ultimately worked out to the then-WWF's good fortune by paving the way for the mainstreaming of the "Mr. Mc Mahon" persona (which had somewhat of a test run in the USWA prior to this).
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I would say no, why not discuss it on the forum?
Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
Is the 2014-19 face push of Roman Reigns deserving of an entry on the "Other" page? From my understanding, it's pretty much a perfect example of how NOT to book a Face for your pro wrestling multimedia empire.