Lost And Found

You've got this trope sticking in your mind. You can remember the general idea, and maybe an example or two, but you'll be damned if you can remember what the thing's called, and the search function turns up nothing relevant. Ask about it here.
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DAN004
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09:10:56 PM 29th Aug 2014
What's the difference of Embarrassing Tattoo and Mark of Shame?
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madgodzulcan
09:10:56 PM 29th Aug 2014
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A Mark of Shame is forced upon a character by whatever as a punishment and to inform others of a crime, and an Embarrassing Tattoo is put on by accident or a prank that only really embarrasses and nothing serous.

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PPPSSC
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08:44:51 PM 29th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for when villains are thrown into prison cells through the ceiling?
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DAN004
08:44:51 PM 29th Aug 2014
I don't think it's tropable.

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Hodor
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08:24:21 PM 29th Aug 2014
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Had a question about whether an example fit a trope. In The Dagger and the Coin, the Spider Priests (who have a Compelling Voice ability) have spiders living in their blood. In-universe, it is a tradition for people to cut their thumbs when swearing oaths, and it is heavily implied and later confirmed that the practice started as a way of detecting Spider Priests.

Is this a Red Right Hand? Glamour Failure? Something else? I'm not sure how to classify it, as the Spider Priests outwardly look like normal people and actually were before getting their powers/the spiders in the blood, but it is something they can't hide.
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AkoSiKuya23
Medium: Western Animation
05:34:34 PM 29th Aug 2014
In the latest preview clip for My Little Pony Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks, Sunset Shimmer admits that she only dated Flash Sentry to make herself more popular. I feel like there's a trope for when a character hooks up with another for an ulterior motive like bettering their social status, but I'm unable to find or figure out what that trope is.
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Hero_Gal_2347
05:03:45 PM 29th Aug 2014
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DAN004
05:07:11 PM 29th Aug 2014
^ change the "boy" to "guy"
AkoSiKuya23
05:34:34 PM 29th Aug 2014
Thank you!

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StarTropes
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05:07:58 PM 29th Aug 2014
Suppose Bob calls out to his friend Steve and gets an answer from every nearby character named Steve. (Obviously, the One Steve Limit doesn't apply here.) Is there a trope for that?
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Scorpion451
07:08:20 AM 26th Aug 2014
Its an inverted One Steve Limit
PPPSSC
07:15:45 PM 26th Aug 2014
Rather, an averted One Steve Limit. Since One Steve Limit is essentially omnipresent, only aversions are listed, so that's where it would go.
Scorpion451
04:46:20 PM 27th Aug 2014
Averted would just be if they met another Steve, this is inverted because there are many Steves and they are surprised by it.
eroock
06:47:38 PM 28th Aug 2014
IMO, it's parodied One Steve Limit
justanotherrandomlurker
08:27:46 PM 28th Aug 2014
You mean kind of like from A Very Brady Sequel, where the Bunch go to Hawaii in search of Carol, and at one point, Peter and Bobby are trekking through a bazaar and call out, "Mom!" Only to have every middle-aged and elderly lady to respond to the call?
BradyLady
04:42:27 PM 29th Aug 2014
There was also a parody scene from a movie, I can't remember which, that was set in the Middle East somewhere. Of course being the Middle East, every native character was a terrorist—and every single one had the same name.

"OK, we're looking for a guy named Mohammed." Every terrorist present suddenly comes out of hiding. In unison: "Yes?" "Mohammed Hussein." Every terrorist in unison again: "Yes?"

DAN004
05:07:58 PM 29th Aug 2014
And what's your point? They're all parodied One Steve Limit.

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Ookamikun
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12:41:49 PM 29th Aug 2014
Does Powered Armor cover power suits that is light in outfit, or is it Clothes Make the Superman
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Scorpion451
04:00:53 PM 27th Aug 2014
You might be looking for Future Spandex, Latex Space Suit, or Spy Catsuit. These can overlap with Power Armor, though- I've even seem some Stripperiffic power armor of the Chainmail Bikini variety.
Ookamikun
12:41:49 PM 29th Aug 2014
Thanks. It's Future Spandex apparently. Though it seems Powered Armor covers a lot too.

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VoidKnightsc
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09:04:24 AM 29th Aug 2014
A tells B that they are going to kill them the next time they see them, but turns around and tries to kill B before they have a chance to leave.
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DAN004
07:21:38 AM 29th Aug 2014
VoidKnightsc
08:25:34 AM 29th Aug 2014
There are two examples I could think of at the moment, in the first case, A is too much of a Dumb Muscle to realize B never had a chance to leave, and in the second, A is just too angry at B.
Synchronicity
09:04:24 AM 29th Aug 2014

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Theenmityofages1994
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08:58:06 AM 29th Aug 2014
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Is there a trope for an emotionally repressed character who opens up and starts showing all their emotions and asserting themselves... and not all those emotions are bright, shiny and positive?

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StarTropes
06:55:25 PM 27th Aug 2014
Could involve Beware the Quiet Ones
Pastykake
08:04:11 PM 28th Aug 2014
^ But it sounds like they're not a Quiet One anymore.

^^ If you know of a trope where they are all bright, shiny, and positive, it could be a subversion or aversion of that depending on how much the trope focuses on the emotions being positive.
MacAvity
08:58:50 PM 28th Aug 2014
Sounds like a dark version of Defrosting Ice Queen ?
Synchronicity
08:58:06 AM 29th Aug 2014

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lu127
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08:55:48 AM 29th Aug 2014
There's a bit I couldn't find in Gameplay and Story Segregation, so here we go: do we have a trope for when you have a character afflicted by things in gameplay that shouldn't be possible given their body? For instance, a robot that can be poisoned even though it has no organic parts?
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DAN004
08:55:48 AM 29th Aug 2014

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Hero_Gal_2347
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07:23:23 AM 29th Aug 2014
Is there such a thing as Bullying a Dragon by proxy?
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DAN004
07:22:17 PM 28th Aug 2014
Example?
Hero_Gal_2347
07:26:31 PM 28th Aug 2014
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For instance, crooks in Superman keep attacking Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen in spite of knowing their connection to Superman. The idea being, "Hey! I've got an idea. Let's attack the Protectorate of the guy who can beat the tar out of us!"

"Let me get this straight. This guy you caught is close to one of the toughest men in the world, who punches out Cthulhu on a regular basis. And your plan is to threaten this person? Good luck."
DAN004
09:39:11 PM 28th Aug 2014
I think not. A vulnerable protectorate is still a vulnerable protectorate. Protectors can be fooled. In case of Superman he has more ppl to worry about than just those two.

In short, those crooks have a chance of harming those two. They just need extra work on ensuring Superman to not interfere.
Hero_Gal_2347
10:00:47 PM 28th Aug 2014
^ Granted, but after they've hurt Superman's protectorate, what do they think he's going to do to them? Granted, Superman isn't as much of a threat, but some people on the good side flip out and return the harm if their protectorates are hurt. The idea is, touching this person is a bad idea, not because they are a threat (as with Bullying a Dragon) but because you're in danger of negative attention from their friends if you threaten or injure them.
DAN004
11:27:09 PM 28th Aug 2014
I'm thinking of World Nobles in One Piece: if they're so much as getting threatened, they can call even a Marine Admiral to neutralize the threat.

Is that what you meant?

Hero_Gal_2347
05:59:00 AM 29th Aug 2014
edited by Hero_Gal_2347
^ Yes. Essentially, "You shouldn't hurt me, because hurting me happens to be the Berserk Button for someone powerful, and you know it. But you do it anyway."
DAN004
07:23:23 AM 29th Aug 2014
I think it's still Protec Torate. Hurting them is, by their design, a Berserk Button for their protectors.

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justanotherrandomlurker
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07:21:21 AM 29th Aug 2014
Is there a male version of She Cleans Up Nicely, where you have a guy who's a slob and looks like he could be a homeless bum, but after a haircut, shave, fresh clothes and such he turns out to be a rather handsome dude?
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StarTropes
06:56:05 PM 27th Aug 2014
I don't think there's a separate trope. It's just gender-flipped.
randomsurfer
06:59:20 AM 28th Aug 2014
He Cleans Up Nicely is a redirect to She Cleans Up Nicely, so there's no Spear Counterpart page.
Exxolon
03:28:12 PM 28th Aug 2014
In that case shouldn't it be renamed to the gender neutral They Clean Up Nicely?
BradyLady
03:41:53 PM 28th Aug 2014
Or just Cleans Up Nicely.
Exxolon
04:50:44 PM 28th Aug 2014
Cleans Up Nicely is better - I might propose that.
randomsurfer
07:02:31 AM 29th Aug 2014
Cleans Up Nicely is also a redirect to SCUN.
DAN004
07:21:21 AM 29th Aug 2014
Yay.

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SanyuMiyazaki
Medium: Videogame
06:44:55 AM 29th Aug 2014
Okay, so at the end of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney case 1-4, the credits roll like it's the end of the game. Right after the Capcom logo shows up, though, Phoenix shouts "Hold It!" and the game tells you that you unlocked case 1-5. Any idea what this trope is?
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Freezer
09:20:11 PM 28th Aug 2014
Elbruno
10:23:34 PM 28th Aug 2014
edited by Elbruno
Nah, that's for apparent game overs that turn out to not be the end of it. This is closer to Your Princess Is in Another Castle, but it's not that either.
Hashil
12:14:31 AM 29th Aug 2014
Synchronicity
06:44:55 AM 29th Aug 2014
Endgame Plus? Case 1-5 itself is an example of Updated Re-release.

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AnoBakaDesu
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04:56:57 AM 29th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for a ruler who has a tendency to attract guests that are foreign to his kingdom, often unnervingly so?
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StarTropes
03:50:44 AM 29th Aug 2014
Can you give me an example?
VoidKnightsc
04:56:57 AM 29th Aug 2014
Weirdness Magnet...sort of.

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ryanasaurus0077
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04:10:38 AM 29th Aug 2014
Is there anything for choppy slow-motion for dramatic purposes?
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wootzits
11:47:26 AM 26th Aug 2014
Slow Motion Pass By, Slow Motion Fall, Slow Motion Drop.

What do you mean by 'choppy'?
ryanasaurus0077
11:54:46 AM 26th Aug 2014
Not smooth, less than 24 images being shown per second in a 24 FPS film, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
wootzits
11:56:48 AM 26th Aug 2014
Well, there's a super-trope in Overcrank.
ryanasaurus0077
12:08:12 PM 26th Aug 2014
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Didn't help. Could this be a job for YKTTW?
DAN004
04:24:20 PM 26th Aug 2014
ryanasaurus0077
08:11:11 PM 26th Aug 2014
edited by ryanasaurus0077
No, that's for animated works, and stop motion is supposed to look choppy. (BTW it has a more refined cousin called "go motion".)
DAN004
11:49:16 PM 26th Aug 2014
Is this another Lazy Artist trope?
ryanasaurus0077
02:00:01 AM 27th Aug 2014
I don't think so.
Scorpion451
04:10:48 PM 27th Aug 2014
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I think you're looking for Adrenaline Time (aka Ramping)- that's flipfloping between Overcranking, Undercranking, and normal speed for dramatic effect.
ryanasaurus0077
04:22:13 PM 27th Aug 2014
I don't think any of the examples involve choppy slow-motion.
Scorpion451
04:56:43 PM 27th Aug 2014
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Tropes Are Flexible- I'm adding Thir13en Ghosts to the page after I type this, that one loves choppy Ramping.
Pastykake
08:22:05 PM 28th Aug 2014
I know what you're talking about, I think it's usually seen in anime: let's say you have a 24fps animation and you take, say, every 6th frame and freeze it there for 6 frames, skipping over the frames in-between; i.e., the first frame plays for six frames, then what in a smooth animation would be the seventh frame plays for six frames, then the 13th, the 19th, and so on, as a dramatic effect. Usually there's no sound while this occurs. Is this what you mean?
ryanasaurus0077
04:10:38 AM 29th Aug 2014
No.

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justanotherrandomlurker
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08:25:23 PM 28th Aug 2014
Do we have tropes for these two scenarios:

1. Bob gets worked up about something and starts rambling to himself, getting himself more worked up, causing him to ramble even more, till finally he settles down and realizes every single person in the room is staring at him.

2. A very serious situation arises, and in the middle of a conversation, one person tries to lighten the tension by making an amusing remark? Like from The Green Mile regarding Del's botched execution:
Hal: Wharton's singing in his cell!
Paul: Oh? Can he carry a tune?
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ryanasaurus0077
11:14:55 AM 28th Aug 2014
The second one is Comically Missing the Point, judging from the example you provided. The first, though, I have no idea.
justanotherrandomlurker
11:22:44 AM 28th Aug 2014
It's not really missing the point as it is somebody trying to be funny in a serious situation to ease the tension, though nobody is really amused by that person's comment or remark. It's kind of like a, "How can you make jokes at a time like this?" kind of thing.
Freezer
11:23:04 AM 28th Aug 2014
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Bisected8
11:26:47 AM 28th Aug 2014
The second might also be Casual Danger Dialogue.
DAN004
04:19:38 PM 28th Aug 2014
The second is Gallows Humor
justanotherrandomlurker
04:36:18 PM 28th Aug 2014
Okay, yes, I agree, I do believe the second is Gallows Humor, but I don't really think the first is Did I Say That Out Loud.
DAN004
06:51:46 PM 28th Aug 2014
justanotherrandomlurker
08:25:23 PM 28th Aug 2014
Not quite. Lemme share an example:

From Monsters, Inc., there's a brief moment regarding Mike and Sully trying to retrieve Boo's door to send her back home, Mike starts to lose his cool over them not being able to find her door, and starts flipping out at Sully, but then pauses when he realizes everyone else in the room is staring at him.

This kind of thing pops up again in another Pixar movie, Ratatouille, where Chef Skinner has a meeting with his lawyer regarding Linguini being Gusteau's son, but Skinner is also worried about the rat (Remy) he keeps seeing, then starts to ramble on about thinking Linguini is playing all these mind games with him, then stops to find his lawyer just standing there staring at him; the lawyer even adds, "Should I be concerned about this? About you?"

A variation appears in Babe, where Farmer Hogget does an improptu dance number for Babe, and when he finishes, he sees all of his livestock staring at him through the windows.

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Pastykake
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07:43:08 PM 28th Aug 2014
What's it called when the events happen, and the medium we're viewing through is a recording the characters made of the events happening? Like, one of the characters recorded the events of the book you're reading in a book, and that's the book you're reading (I believe The Hoobit and the Lord of the Rings trilogy are like this). I'm mainly thinking of Yu Yu Hakusho, where the show turns out to be the footage Spirit World compiled while monitoring Yusuke's adventures and George the Ogre is the narrator.
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DAN004
07:21:58 PM 28th Aug 2014
eroock
07:33:47 PM 28th Aug 2014
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^ This
Pastykake
07:43:08 PM 28th Aug 2014
I looked through the links on that page and I think for Yu Yu Hakusho it's A True Story In My Universe (they explicitly tell you you've been watching footage taken of the actual events), but thank you!

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wrm5
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07:33:35 PM 28th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for a Lady Luck-like character? The personification of luck or a goddess of fortune? I figure it's tropable as long as Mother Nature is tropable, but I can't find anything like it.
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bitemytail
03:43:50 PM 26th Aug 2014
wrm5
04:43:02 PM 26th Aug 2014
Random Number God is more of a "the dice are trying to kill me" thing from the description...
eroock
07:13:16 PM 28th Aug 2014
It would go under Anthropomorphic Personification. You can YKTTW this if you find enough examples.
DracMonster
07:33:35 PM 28th Aug 2014
Definitely tropeworthy.

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MorningStar1337
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07:27:59 PM 28th Aug 2014
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Okay a certain comic storyline and my suspicions on some Social Justice Warriors led me to ask if there is a trope for using "Justice" as an excuse for revenge (I'm pretty sure Concepts Are Cheap already mentions this, but I'm also wondering if there should be a separate trope for the Revenge/Justice conflation)
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Freezer
09:43:49 PM 27th Aug 2014
My first guess would be Knight Templar.
DAN004
02:45:27 AM 28th Aug 2014
^ that's about overzealous dudes who went too far on enforcing justice. Not specifically someone justifying vengeance as justice.

Kinda thinking of The Punisher as well, he's characterized that way.
Pastykake
07:27:59 PM 28th Aug 2014

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VoidKnightsc
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07:20:27 PM 28th Aug 2014
The Hero's Love Interest genuinely falling in love with the villain. The villain might just be acting or is courting her under false pretenses, but she is not forced.
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DracMonster
12:50:50 PM 28th Aug 2014
Dating Catwoman, I believe. Or an inverted Villainous Crush, perhaps.
DAN004
04:18:38 PM 28th Aug 2014
Pastykake
07:17:41 PM 28th Aug 2014
Not Cuck Old unless the Hero is a man and the Love Interest is his wife.
DAN004
07:20:27 PM 28th Aug 2014

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ConnorGorden
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07:10:07 PM 28th Aug 2014
Does a hero character that is mind raped into being a savage villian, and is then rescued by allies, need to become the stoner have a separate trope, or just go back to being a regular hero?
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wrm5
11:38:27 PM 27th Aug 2014
...what? Need to... stoner... what are you asking? A separate trope from what?
ConnorGorden
11:54:50 PM 27th Aug 2014
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Sorry( actually my tablet has a virus that makes stupid auto corrects.) I meant do they have to become the atoner although stoner hero, sounds awesome)
eroock
07:10:07 PM 28th Aug 2014
Depends whether he actually goes on to atone for his sins. Otherwise he stays a Tragic Hero.

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DAN004
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07:04:47 PM 28th Aug 2014
Do we have the reverse of Well-Intentioned Extremist? As in "doing this evil deed (or working on an Evil Plan) necessitates one to do good so the whole thing can work".
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Hero_Gal_2347
07:01:52 PM 28th Aug 2014
Pastykake
07:04:47 PM 28th Aug 2014
I would probably just call it an inversion.

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Bloodwork
Medium: Film
06:59:20 PM 28th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for when in the movie or show, someone uses a microscope (or other device) to visually show how the bad thing works? Like they will show the bad cells destroying the good cells or for a monster that can mimic humans (I can't remember if I saw this in either version of the Thing) you'll see the monster cells copying the human ones.
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Scorpion451
07:49:10 AM 26th Aug 2014
Think you might have a How Did We Miss This One? there.
eroock
06:59:20 PM 28th Aug 2014
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Must be a sister trope of Exposition Diagram and Spreading Disaster Map Graphic

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TsukiKumori
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06:51:48 PM 28th Aug 2014
A trope where a villain is knocked down from their high horse (and may end up in the hero's party temporarily, or as a prisoner), but the hero is having a moral dilemma over whether or not to kick them while they're down.
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DAN004
07:49:43 PM 24th Aug 2014
Example?
TsukiKumori
08:08:59 PM 24th Aug 2014
I can't really think of any aside from fanfictions. Um... oh, in the Warrior cats books, Brokenstar becomes a prisoner in the Thunder Clan camp from Fire and Ice onwards (in the first series of books), and Fireheart wonders how to treat him. He sees apprentices mocking him and ponders how to handle it.
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GrigorII
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06:39:46 PM 28th Aug 2014
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A video or TV program opening that follows "something" as it keeps turning into several things. For example, here: building pipes turn into a guitar, which turns into a keyboard, which turns into stairs, and so on.
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eroock
06:39:46 PM 28th Aug 2014
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The closest I can think of is Match Cut

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Exxolon
Medium: Videogame
04:49:48 PM 28th Aug 2014
I'm not sure if we have this - it's a sub trope of Enemy Chatter that applies to flight/space sims where if you shoot down/blow up an enemy they have the presence of mind to activate their comm system, switch to your frequency, say something like "Aargh! I'm hit!" or "Engines out! Ejecting now!" before they actually explode/bail out. Basically any videogame where the enemy takes the time and energy to actually tell you directly that you've killed or otherwise taken them out. Do we have this?
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DracMonster
04:10:49 PM 28th Aug 2014
Exxolon
04:49:48 PM 28th Aug 2014
Thanks - couldn't put my finger on it.

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Larkmarn
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04:17:28 PM 28th Aug 2014
What's the trope for where someone fakes having super powers using technology?
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Bisected8
12:58:27 PM 28th Aug 2014
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Clarke's Third Law (I can't seem to find a more specific subtrope)?
DAN004
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HeaG
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04:16:03 PM 28th Aug 2014
Do we have a trope where characters and locations were made/programmed to look and act like glitches ?

Because I've got this example I want to add for The Matrix Path Of Neo. It's about this train station that's 'code' is corrupted - it causes barrels and coins to float around in mid-air, along with letting rats run into the walls even though there's no hole.

Then on the actual train, there are cars that are upside-down and so are the people in it. Only half of the train conducter's face and body looks human, the other half has broken code flowing out of it.

Thanks, for the help.
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DracMonster
04:12:29 PM 28th Aug 2014
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A Glitch in the Matrix (heh)

EDIT: Wait I misread (Although that trope would in fact apply to your specific example.) Interface Screw is the closest I can think of.
DAN004
04:16:03 PM 28th Aug 2014
Is the glitch intentional In-Universe or Out Of Universe?

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DracMonster
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01:36:11 PM 28th Aug 2014
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Do we have a trope for where a character is hesitating about killing someone, but then something happens to push them to do it? (Like their target kicking the dog or someone screaming Get It Over With.)

What I'm thinkiing of is in Ensign Sue Must Die. Spock has a phaser pointed at sue and is hesitating about pulling the trigger until she starts bragging that she has a perfect record with a phaser and legally beat the kobayashi maru, at which point he blasts her with the "pocket death star" setting.
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wootzits
01:36:11 PM 28th Aug 2014
Kill Him Already, I think.

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GrigorII
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12:21:22 PM 28th Aug 2014
A character sayd a hidden truth aloud, but nobody is there to listen, and there's really no reason to say it alound (and it may even be dangerous, if someone is actually around to hear). More precisely, the reason is to make the audience know something that, so far, only this guy knows.

"Ah, kid, if you only knew that I'm your father..."
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VoidKnightsc
07:27:50 AM 28th Aug 2014
Missing supertrope of Board to Death?
DAN004
09:22:15 AM 28th Aug 2014
Just Between You and Me with the audience?
Larkmarn
12:21:22 PM 28th Aug 2014
It's covered by Dramatic Irony, I think.

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DAN004
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02:52:12 AM 28th Aug 2014
Related to Alternate Identity Amnesia: do we have something for when someone doesn't realize what he had done while they're mind controlled, brainwashed, possessed etc until he either found out himself later or somebody else told him?
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senshidenshi
Medium: Live Action TV
02:29:55 AM 28th Aug 2014
Is there any trope for just awkward silence? I went looking and couldn't actually find one.
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DAN004
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immortalfrieza
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05:29:24 PM 27th Aug 2014
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Is there a trope for when a character attempts to accomplish something, but the actions they take to accomplish it run contrary to that goal?

i.e. A character want to protect another character but ends up putting them in more danger than they would have been otherwise trying to protect them.
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Bisected8
07:41:19 AM 27th Aug 2014
Synchronicity
07:41:35 AM 27th Aug 2014
DAN004
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justanotherrandomlurker
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05:22:04 PM 27th Aug 2014
We have Trademark Favorite Food and we also have Drink Order, but I'm curious to know if we have tropes that cover characters' favorite genres of entertainment, and if it's even tropeworthy? Like how many young women Bookworms tend to devour cheesy romance novels, or a show's Cloud Cuckoolander tends to favor Science Fiction movies and shows, or how the Cultured Badass of the group perfers to listen to Classical music and nothing else?
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DAN004
04:25:36 PM 26th Aug 2014
Doesn't strike me as tropeworthy, imo.
justanotherrandomlurker
04:51:12 PM 26th Aug 2014
Why not? Again, we have Trademark Favorite Food and Drink Order.
mutecebu
06:50:42 PM 26th Aug 2014
seems borderline to me; you could argue either way. I would say that the examples you give are sufficient precedent though.
Scorpion451
04:21:27 PM 27th Aug 2014
I think you could cobble together a trope out of what you're describing. There are a lot of stereotypical associations like the Cool Old Guy liking classic rock, or The Smart Guy being a Science Fiction fan. The hard part is keeping it from being a list of things characters like.
DAN004
05:22:04 PM 27th Aug 2014
Trademark Favorite Food and Drink Order are both about "signatures". I.e something that is associated closely to a specific character. Not sure if "a genre" can be a signature.

I'd be more convinced if there are individual subtropes for them i.e Seniors Love Classic Rock or Nerds Love Scifi.

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BinaryStep
Medium: Western Animation
04:51:09 PM 27th Aug 2014
What is it when a character is introduced that is basically a Flanderization/Expy of a main character?
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Freezer
02:42:09 PM 23rd Aug 2014
Examples?
BradyLady
02:43:10 PM 23rd Aug 2014
I'm not sure what it's called, but I wanted to help out with an example. I saw it happen on Night Court, when a group of kids, two boys and a girl, toured the courtroom. The girl was prissy and uptight, obviously a take on Christine. The boys were an incurable prankster (Harry) and a perv (Dan). None of the main characters could stand their guest counterparts, until Harry lampshaded it in the end by realizing that joke-pulling little nuisance was just like him.
Freezer
02:53:01 PM 23rd Aug 2014
edited by Freezer
I think that would be covered by Bizarro World. (See: The Bizarro Jerry episode of Seinfeld).
Scorpion451
04:51:09 PM 27th Aug 2014
Also sounds like a variant of Other Me Annoys Me.

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bejjinks
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04:40:23 PM 27th Aug 2014
Is there an index of foreign tropes and/or foreign media?
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Scorpion451
04:40:23 PM 27th Aug 2014

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hodges14
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08:18:33 AM 27th Aug 2014
I'm not sure this is a homosexuality trope, but could you help me with this example?

Aaron Rodgers: NOT AFTER THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 4th, YOU LITTLE HAWKSUCKER. BITE THE PILLOW WILSON, BECAUSE I'M A’COMING IN DRY!
Tony Romo: Hey Drew Brees, that reminds me, we should totally...
Drew Brees: Romo, I don't know where you're going with that thought, but whatever it is you can just forget it.

I'm thinking it's Straight Gay, but I could be wrong.
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BradyLady
Medium:
07:44:57 AM 27th Aug 2014
Rite of Passage didn't cover it.

In the Deep South, they have a saying that a boy becomes a man when his father tells him he's one. Consequently you'll see the plot now and then where a boy faces a dilemma, makes a decision that shows character and integrity, and his father will tell him he's a man. He doesn't shave, and his voice hasn't changed yet, but he's a man.

This turns up in an episode of The Andy Griffith Show (Opie's Job) and in the movie Where the Red Fern Grows, among many others of a rural or Southern setting.

Is it a trope?
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Scorpion451
07:27:50 PM 25th Aug 2014
So Proud of You or "Well Done, Son" Guy, depending on if they were trying to earn Dad's respect or not
BradyLady
10:06:03 AM 26th Aug 2014
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So Proud of You would be a general form of it. I was thinking of the exact words, "You're a man," said by a father to a pre-pubescent boy. Is that The Same but More Specific, or is it a subtrope?
BradyLady
12:40:38 PM 26th Aug 2014
It also turns up in a comedy routine I saw once, not sure who the comic was. He invoked the trope (if it is one) himself. He said he's from the South, where they say a boy isn't a man until his father tells him he's one, and it caused an identity crisis for him because his father died when he was little. Here he is, years later, not sure he's a grown man yet because his father never said those words, "You're a man," to him.
DAN004
04:23:48 PM 26th Aug 2014
I think it's still So Proud of You.

Synchronicity
07:44:57 AM 27th Aug 2014

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sosoandsoso
Medium:
06:52:05 AM 27th Aug 2014
I'm probably an idiot for not having found this, but is there a trope for when Alice is lying and and Jenna tells her to look her in the eye and say it again because you know?
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randomsurfer
06:52:05 AM 27th Aug 2014
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...because Eyes Never Lie.

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BinaryStep
Medium:
11:48:26 PM 26th Aug 2014
Is there an "Arc Colours" trope for colours that are important throughout a work?
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DAN004
11:48:26 PM 26th Aug 2014

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randomsurfer
Medium: Literature
07:19:33 PM 26th Aug 2014
Is there something, either a trope on wiki or some idea that's out in the world, to the effect of either Godwork Is Gruntwork or Assistant God? Like Apollo in Greek Mythology - he's the god of the sun, one of the most powerful gods, but he is required to spend all day every day pulling the sun across the sky in his chariot. So either Apollo is actually a slave to his job or else he has underlings/assistants who do the actual work most of the time and he's just the supervisor.
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DAN004
08:30:30 AM 25th Aug 2014
randomsurfer
11:41:57 AM 25th Aug 2014
That title sounds like it'd be right but if you actually read the page it isn't.
Bisected8
12:39:19 PM 25th Aug 2014
Is Odd Job Gods (gods in the God Job equivalent of a Burger Fool) close enough?
randomsurfer
02:14:03 PM 25th Aug 2014
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^IDK, Odd Job God is more like a god who has strange jobs, isn't it?

Thought of another example which may help - in Dead Like Me the main characters are grim reapers, who work for The Grim Reaper. TGR can't go around reaping everyone who dies, so he has a bunch of assistants.
DAN004
05:56:18 PM 25th Aug 2014
God Is Flawed? (Cuz "gods" supposedly has supreme rule and power over their portfolio)
DAN004
05:56:19 PM 25th Aug 2014
God Is Flawed? (Cuz "gods" supposedly has supreme rule and power over their portfolio)
VoidKnightsc
07:19:33 PM 26th Aug 2014
Vetinari Job Security since Apollo is the only one who could handle the chariot?

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StevenT
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04:26:35 PM 26th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for when a minion knows or thinks their boss is going to punish them, so they punish themselves just to get it out of the way and save them the trouble?
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DAN004
04:26:35 PM 26th Aug 2014
Self Punishing Mook (or Minion?) in ykttw.

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DAN004
Medium:
03:46:09 PM 26th Aug 2014
What do we call an "older" figure basically saying "what I do is bad, and I'll show you why you have to avoid becoming like me".
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03:46:09 PM 26th Aug 2014

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treytech
Medium: Live Action TV
11:07:12 AM 26th Aug 2014
I was watching the "gang hits the road" episode of Always Sunny where they attempt to go to Grand Canyon on a roadtrip, but never get out of Philly due to various issues. This got me thinking about how often sitcoms will have an episode about going on a vacation or roadtrip, only to have something go wrong before or early during the trip, such as missing a flight, car troubles, or something else. Maybe the shows didn't have the money or time to actually shoot off set. I tried searching for a trope related to this, but couldn't find one. Am I overlooking it somewhere?
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justanotherrandomlurker
11:07:12 AM 26th Aug 2014
I've seen something similar to this before, such as the famous Hollywood story arc of I Love Lucy, which I think had 2-3 episodes before they actually left for different reasons, such as finding a car to buy for the trip, teaching Lucy how to drive, what to do about the luggage, etc. Then, of course, along the way, they had a few stumbling blocks, like being placed in a jailhouse in Tennessee.

I don't know if I've seen this enough for it to be tropeable, though.

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Shlugo_the_great
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10:25:36 AM 26th Aug 2014
Do we have a trope for when a character talks about something and then we cut to something/someone that matches the description?
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DAN004
12:21:48 AM 26th Aug 2014
Shlugo_the_great
06:51:51 AM 26th Aug 2014
But its says its for when something contrary to the description happens.

Wouldn't Answer Cut be closer to what I'm talking about?
Scorpion451
07:34:44 AM 26th Aug 2014
Yep, you want Answer Cut for this one.
Shlugo_the_great
10:25:36 AM 26th Aug 2014
Thanks, this answers my question!

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sentairider42
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09:51:33 AM 26th Aug 2014
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what is the trope for when the main character is telling the story from a first-person viewpoint?
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Bisected8
09:51:33 AM 26th Aug 2014

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sentairider42
Medium:
09:44:29 AM 26th Aug 2014
Is there a trope that's similar to Possession Sue, but rather than turning a canon character being turned into a Fan Fic writer's Author Avatar, the character gets replaced by an Author Avatar?
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Freezer
08:41:53 AM 26th Aug 2014
sentairider42
08:47:26 AM 26th Aug 2014
I was thinking more about character types
Freezer
09:44:29 AM 26th Aug 2014
That's pretty much Self Insert taken to an extreme.


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kenceo
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09:43:39 AM 26th Aug 2014
What do you call a white towel ghost?
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Freezer
09:43:39 AM 26th Aug 2014
Think that would still fit under Bedsheet Ghost.

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NativeJovian
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07:49:58 AM 26th Aug 2014
Is there a trope for when someone fakes an identity not as a specific person, but as a generic member of a "higher" level of society? Something like a commoner pretending to be nobility, or in a Fantastic Caste System a "minion" caste member pretending to be part of the "leader" caste.

This seems to be a relatively common plot element (I can think of a handful of "pretending to be nobility" examples off the top of my head) but I couldn't find a trope for it. Anyone know if one exists, or should I take it to YKTTW?
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Bisected8
03:34:13 PM 24th Aug 2014
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Scorpion451
07:57:20 PM 25th Aug 2014
The entire Disguise Tropes index is where you want to be hunting, but Mock Millionaire, Bavarian Fire Drill, Impersonation Gambit, and Dressing as the Enemy come to mind in specific.
DAN004
09:15:07 PM 25th Aug 2014
^^ Pass Fail is definitely related, but what the OP wanted is just the "pass" without the "fail".
randomsurfer
07:25:16 AM 26th Aug 2014
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Mock Millionaire (who doesn't have to be literally pretending to be a millionaire).

EDIT: Oops, I didn't notice scorpion already mentioned that.
Scorpion451
07:49:58 AM 26th Aug 2014
^Bears repeating, I was actually going to point that bit out and forgot

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SgtFrog1
Medium: Anime
07:30:36 AM 26th Aug 2014
In anime and other animated works, do we have a trope for an evil or crazy character who is drawn with a mouth full of fangs/sharp teeth to signify he or she is the Psycho for Hire or otherwise violently insane?
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DAN004
09:06:57 PM 25th Aug 2014
BinaryStep
09:07:57 PM 25th Aug 2014
Did that trope just get deleted or something?
DAN004
09:08:23 PM 25th Aug 2014
Scorpion451
07:30:36 AM 26th Aug 2014
There's also More Teeth than the Osmond Family for the Up to Eleven version

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Zeanobia
Medium: Western Animation
07:28:55 AM 26th Aug 2014
Is there already a trope for how authors always over-highlight objects that characters are about to use?

Like a fruit which is somehow lighter than all the other fruits in a basket only to be taken 2 seconds later.
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Elbruno
12:07:18 PM 25th Aug 2014
Scorpion451
07:28:55 AM 26th Aug 2014
I always think its interesting when we get someone who independently comes up with the exact definition of a trope without ever having seen it.

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