• 3 May 25th, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 03:52:34 AM
    Is there a trope for being paid for something in food rather than cash, particularly for a Big Eater who has little concept of money. I initially thought this was And Your Reward Is Edible but reading the (admittedly rather poor) description of the trope is actually for "A character is given food for his kind and selfless actions to the bystander in trouble." which wasn't what I was looking for. Reply

      Bartering is the system you may be talking about. It especially happens in economies where there isn't a lot of money. So the hair stylist does the cook's hair in return for the cook making a meal for the hairstylist. I don't know if that's a trope here or not.

      ^ There is Pro Bono Barter

      I was just looking at Food as Bribe, which might also fit. One of the examples (Charlie Brown in a Peanuts comic strip) has the food being used as a payment.
  • 1 May 27th, 2017 at 3:03AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 03:48:02 AM
    what's the name of the trope for when a character is trying to tell another character some important information, but then there's a loud noise that completely overlaps what the character is saying, and then the talking character acts as if nothing happened?? Reply
  • 1 May 26th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2017 03:32:11 AM
    Is there such a trope yet where a scary character is named based on what people would cry out when they saw that character?

    For example, in Kindergarten, a Monstermon Card Ohfaka Tornado, people would apparently cry out its name as it sucks them in. Reply

      I don't have a reply, but I'm trying to make sure I'm clear on the question by citing other possible examples.

      One barbershop catering to punk style had a haircut called the "Oh shit" because that's what everyone who got it said when they looked in the mirror afterward.

      And I'm thinking "Boo" of Monsters, Inc. might be either a form of this, or an inversion?

      And there is the gag "free to good home" poster showing an enormous mastiff being given away because his owner can't afford to feed him. His name is Jethro, but he is better known by the so-called mock-Asian nickname everyone calls him when they see him: Ho Lee Shit.

      Do I understand your question? Because if I do, that will help me look for an answer.
  • 0 May 27th, 2017 at 2:02AM
    Not really a trope, more of a Hollywood Law thing: crime series and spy shows often use bank accounts to prove or at least suspect that a character (living or posthumous) is guilty of something (often blackmail, whether they're blackmailing or being blackmailed, and bribes as well). There never seems to be any difficulty in doing this, but the examined person always reacts with outrage, so is it legal for the police to look into someone's bank account? Reply
  • 0 May 27th, 2017 at 1:01AM
    What's the trope for stories where the premise is that the majority of the cast are personifications of something?

    Mythology would have a lot of this. Reply
  • 2 May 26th, 2017 at 10:10PM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 11:35:57 PM
    What's the trope where someone flying a plane or spaceship shows off by flying through a dangerously narrow gap? Reply
  • 1 May 26th, 2017 at 10:10PM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 10:53:18 PM
    A character is In Universe by other characters always referred to by both first AND last name, even though they are on close enough terms with them and there is no other character with the same first name, so normally they should just use the first name only. Usually happens with people with unusual or funny names. Reply
  • 0 May 26th, 2017 at 10:10PM
    Is there a page for a trope where a Funny Animal or even a Petting Zoo Person has a large amount fur or feathers covering their naughty parts (Specifically, male naughty parts) instead of just leaving their pelvic area completely bare? Examples I can think of are Blaziken and Beartic from the Pokémon franchise. Some Fursona reference sheets also have this. Reply
  • 3 May 26th, 2017 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 07:15:53 PM
    Is there a trope for where a character does not want to be a villain but is treated as one anyway both In-Universe and out of universe, and doesn't do anything that would remotely make him a Complete Monster or Big Bad?

    Are there actually examples of this as a trope for Live-Action TV or Western Animation? Reply
  • 2 May 26th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 01:36:52 PM
    Is there a trope for when a game makes no attempt at Competitive Balance? That is, it's multiplayer-oriented but has options that have clear and obvious advantages over something else and designed seemingly without any concern to balance. I don't simply mean a Game Breaker or a Joke Character, but a game with a cast full of Game Breakers, Joke Characters, and everything else in between.

    A simple example would be a game where characters have only one variable stat but everything else is completely equal. Said stat can be all across the board, from 400 to 4,000, and there are no disadvantages whatsoever to a higher stat. Reply

      sounds like you want either Character Tiers or Fake Balance's Balance through imbalance or Perfect Imbalance Internal Subtropes.

      Note that it's very important to watch that you don't let yourself fall into Scrub or “Stop Having Fun” Guy traps with those; sometimes things like Power Creep or blatantly strange imbalances are intentional to break up Complacent Gaming Syndrome or create Skill Gate Characters- say once you learn what you're doing with Bob, his 10 in that stat that goes to 4000 starts to look like a Power Limiter to cancel out his near-broken move set. (Case in point, I've made people rage-quit using servbot in Marvel vs. Capcom 2)

      Thanks for the reply—I am a Johnny kind of player so I have done some studying of game balance myself. I understand the Scrub mindset and the "Stop Having Fun" Guys mindset. This is for the cases where the imbalance permeates the game so thoroughly that it's blatantly clear to anyone who plays the game, and where it's pretty clear the designers don't care about balance. It's not even Fake Balance, as that implies there is at least an attempt to look balanced. In these cases, they're not even trying to hide it.

      The example I was thinking of, by the way, is Pokémon Go: All Pokémon have a single stat that dictates how well they'll do in combat, which is CP. The thing is that there are certain fully evolved Pokémon with maximum CP many times higher than others, and no one has thus far found any practical advantages to a Pokémon with lower CP. There is no hidden potential, no Comeback Mechanic, and no side-mechanics that could possibly give a Pokémon with lower CP any sort of advantage. (There's been no confirmation from Niantic about this imbalance—they've not spoken a single word about it. Pokémon GO is their very first game that has any sort of competitive aspect behind it, so while it's just speculation, I would bet that they never encountered a situation making games before that would require thinking about balance.)

      Another example would be the first Dragon Ball Z CCG: In that game, character's power levels reflected how they were like in the source material, and that was their main concern. If Character A fought Character B in the series and didn't stand a chance, the game was designed such that Character A could never prevail over Character B, at least not without a lot of luck and a disproportionately large amount of backup (and even then, they might not ever win). The designers seemed to think players played the card game to relive the series without thinking that no one wants to be on the losing end.

      I guess all in all, what I am bugged about is not the games themselves as much as the assumption in the game balance pages that game designers all care about balance if they are making a game with head-to-head play. If a designer has never played against anyone, or they've only played against other people locally with house rules, or they dedicate themselves to tier lists and ignore anything not at the top, they might not necessarily understand what the big deal is about this "balance." And I know for a fact that these people exist—I have worked with some before. (I bailed out of their project soon afterwards though.)
  • 1 May 26th, 2017 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 12:11:55 PM
    A visual trope where a character is near a large fire, which is reflected on their sunglasses/visors/other reflective surface. Reply
  • 1 May 26th, 2017 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 10:13:19 AM
    Alice Jr. has a teared up photo, she can see that her mother Alice is kissing someone, who is in the lost part of the photo. Bob jr. has a similar photo piece with his father Bob. Then, they took both pieces, put them toguether, and realize that they are parts of the same photo. The mistery kissing couple is Alice and Bob!

    Is it Dismantled MacGuffin? (it is dismantled and needs to be put toguether, but lacks the whole "evil artifact broken in pieces for the sake of humanity" thing)" Reply
  • 1 May 26th, 2017 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 10:04:42 AM
    I mostly see this trope in a form like this:

    Good guys are trying to find a bad guy and spend plenty of time and plot doing so. Good guys find the bad guy seconds before he reveals himself anyway, meaning the same result would have occurred whether or not the good guys bothered to look for him at all.

    More specific example: There is a mole in an organisation. A team from that organisation is away somewhere doing something. Finally, the organisation discovers who the mole is! It's John, the guy they just sent out with their team! Quick, call the team leader and have him stop John! We then cut to John killing the team and doing whatever nefarious deeds he had planned anyway. The team leader's phone rings in vain. Alternatively, the team leader does get a chance to answer, only to say he knows John is the mole because he just made his play. Either way, the whole search for the mole immediately becomes irrelevant and any progress in finding him is immediately neutralised. Reply

      Sounds like it could be Aborted Arc or Shaggy Dog Story. The latter has this in the description, which sounds like what you're looking for:

      "For instance, a cop spends all episode trying to convict a criminal, only to watch the perp be hit by a car and die before he's brought to justice; or a doctor searches all episode for the cure to a mysterious illness, which seems to miraculously cure itself."
  • 0 May 26th, 2017 at 5:05AM
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  • 2 May 25th, 2017 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2017 03:31:17 AM
    Do we have a trope for people getting random powers?

    Not being Randomly Gifted, but having the same Meta Origin, but getting different powers out of it.

    I'm basically trying to see if there's a trope taking the concept of Superpower Lottery, 'cause I'm not sure I can prove misuse, even though it's more Superpower Lottery Winner.

    See the locked thread I necroed on Trope Talk... Reply
  • 4 May 24th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 09:57:05 PM
    Laconic: Work refers to a in-series that sounds like the work itself, but that in-series work was never named (thus giving ambiguity whether it's the Work the reader is reading).

    Specific case: A shoujo series has a subplot where there's a competitor for the main Love Interest. But it turns out that competitor's motive is not unlike Daily Lives of High School Boys's Literature Girl: falling in love with a boy who's similar to a novel she wrote. The twist is, the said novel was plagiarized from an unnamed in-series anime whose premise is similar to this series. Reply
  • 0 May 25th, 2017 at 7:07PM
    We've all played games where some party members are simply more important to the plot than others. I couldn't find it and the closest analogy I can think involves Required Party Member vs Optional Party Member.

    For example, you have 8 party members in Persona 5, but only half of them stay important to the plot. In fact, they're so important that the plot won't work without them. The other half are only important for their respective story arcs/dungeons but after that, they could disappear from the story entirely and the plot would still make sense.

    Likewise, there are other games where party members can be divided into "Story characters" and "This character's only here in case you need another magic user."

    Do we have something like that? Reply
  • 1 May 12th, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 05:32:27 PM
    Do we have this one? In fighting games you would naturally have many different moves. However some are either a bug in the AI or they are purposely made to get through and connect against most anything. An example would be, say, Street Fighter 2 where if Ryu jumps with a fierce kick it will beat pretty much any other move used. Distinct from a Unblockable Attack or A.I. Breaker in that they can be blocked or avoided and they are not meant to exploit the CPU as such, more noteworthy moves that are kind of a Game Breaker because the game favors or gives priority to such a move. Reply
  • 1 May 24th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 04:46:52 PM
    Sometimes a show (or other type of story) will seem to be going in a certain direction. Sometimes that direction is given more grounds by supplementary content. Some fans may be fine with this, some may be excited...and some might be irritated about it. Is there a trope for discribing this type of negative reaction to an upcoming arc or plot element? As an example, season 3 of the Flash ends with Barry leaving his loved ones behind (possibly forever) just as he was about to marry his fiance, Iris, and have their happy ending. An interview with the actress who plays Iris reveals that she would be okay with a going-back-and-forth kind of romance arc, which (as seen in other television dramas) usually involves the couple breaking up and dating other people and then getting back together again. Those who do not like this type of romance story arc are not looking forward to this happening, especially when Wordof God confirms that Barry will be returning the next season (can't have a show without the protagonist). Reply
  • 2 May 24th, 2017 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 03:11:45 PM
    Is there a trope name for when a character does this exact thing? I've seen it enough that it has to be a trope. A recent example comes from Season 7 Episode 8 of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. It's apparently a shout out to Flashdance. Reply
  • 1 May 25th, 2017 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 02:55:22 PM
    Someone trying the Abomination Accusation Attack is (not always wittingly) guilty of the same thing. Often shows up in conjunction with Sex Is Evil and I Am Horny, but can be used for other crimes (treason, theft, witchcraft...)

    For example, in Judge Dee, one character learns his daughter has gone missing on her wedding night. At the tribunal, he loudly and viciously accuses the groom's father of lusting after her, raping her and then disposing of the body. The father-in-law's sane and sensible responses don't help the father's ranting accusations. At the end of the book, we find out the man had less-than wholesome feelings for his own daughter, which he all too easily ascribed to others.

  • 1 May 25th, 2017 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 02:39:24 PM
    Is there a trope for the Dumb Guy, like Vinnie Barbarino (Welcome Back, Kotter) or Joey (Friends)?

  • 2 May 25th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 10:14:55 AM
    Think like RickAndMorty (Roy), or StarVsTheForcesOfEvil. (Running with Scissors) AdventureTime also did it (Puhoy) Reply

      Can you give more context? What do those examples have in common? I'm thinking Year Inside, Hour Outside as a starting point.

      These examples all have the characters live out a 'full life'. For example, in Puhoy, the main character travels to another dimension and lives out their life with a loving family up to death.
  • 2 May 24th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 08:59:31 AM
    I have searched and cannot find a trope that matches this scenario.

    It's like this: There is a group of friends, Bob, John, Mary, and Wendy, who all get along fine. Then there is a new person, Sarah, that enters the group for whatever reason. Everyone loves Sarah: she's funny, entertaining, and talented. However, there will be one member of the group, in this case, Wendy, that starts to feel like they have been replaced by Sarah.

    For example, say Wendy was usually the one in the group that cooked food for everyone else? Well, Sarah cooks them the food now, and everyone can't stop raving about how awesome it is. Did Wendy used to make everyone laugh? Well, Sarah is funny and the gang can't stop laughing at her jokes. Does Wendy like to paint pictures? Well, so does Sarah, and she paints much better pictures than Wendy ever could.

    Eventually, Wendy feels like she is competition with Sarah, and she is losing badly. Wendy slowly starts to realize she has been replaced by Sarah and the group no longer needs her. Defeated, Wendy either leaves the group or is about to leave the group. When her friends find out and question why she left (or wants to leave), Wendy tells them that she obviously isn't needed anymore because they have Sarah now.

    Much to Wendy's surprise, it turns out she had it all wrong. The group doesn't like Sarah more than Wendy, and they never want Wendy to leave. Sarah ends up either being kicked out of the group, or leaves on her own for other reasons.

  • 4 May 24th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2017 08:53:09 AM
    I'm looking for a trope where a young girl is found in a state of undress by an older male character,note  and shows kindness by taking off his shirt/coat/"upper body garment" and giving it to her, while also giving the male character a Walking Shirtless Scene if he has no other garment underneath it.

    This can vary from a simple T-shirt to a full-size coat,note  but can also extend to variants where the male character has a coat with a t-shirt underneath and gives the shirt to her as the coat is too long for her, leading to a Badass and Child Duo scene with the 'child' wearing a few-sizes-too-big T-shirt hiding behind the leg of a coat-wearing badass, with just enough of the latter's chest showing to hint that her shirt is actually his. Reply

      Please Put Some Clothes On

      Can you clarify? That trope seems to be the inversion of Reluctant Fanservice Girl, with the male character asking the female character to, well, put some clothes on, (sometimes without physically helping) simply because he feels embarrassed at seeing a naked woman.

      For example in PPSCO. Bob would walk into Alice's room at the wrong time, then ask her to dress herself while trying to avert his eyes without getting slapped, punched, kicked in the balls, or decapitated by a giant spiked club. While my trope has Bob finding Alice in a long-forgotten back-alley, and offering his own shirt out of kindness, before helping her find some place to live (which, in anime, winds up to be Bob's house 90% of the time). Or alternatively, simply offering his shirt to someone whose regular clothes have suffered severe damage, spontaneous immolation, cessation of existence, or simply an unexpected soaking.

      There's You Must Be Cold and Her Boyfriend's Jacket.

      Well, considering the fact that the TTGL example I found shows up in You Must Be Cold, I'm going to have to go with that, with some Exposed to the Elements mixed in since the former's description says that the latter can cause the former, which is just what I was looking for.

      Also: Her Boyfriend's Jacket is a straight romance trope, on par with Sexy Shirt Switch, since the female of the group wearing the man's shirt is used exclusively to show the two are in love in both tropes, while YMBC/ETTE has the male character offering their shirt, coat or, heck, even a Sarashi, as a way of showing kindness (like Tastes Like Friendship, but with clothes instead of foodnote ).