Lost And Found You've got this trope sticking in your mind. You can remember the general idea, and maybe an example or two, but you'll be damned if you can remember what the thing's called, and the search function turns up nothing relevant. Ask about it here.
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07:19:26 AM 31st Jul 2014
Is there a trope for text commands in computer interfaces? In a lot of movies and television shows you see users enter an exact text command in a computer to perform an action, like: "send to John" or "print results". For example: I was watching Oceans Thirteen. When one criminal was caught, the police asked the computer to "Search for known associates". Then, the results were "Send to Bank". It is clear for the public what is happening, but in real life this does not occur. Normally, you point and click your way through an application. Instead, in this example one has to select the 'Send' button, browse in the address list for the recepient and than again click a 'Send' button. I thought Viewer-Friendly Interface was a suitable trope, but this topic is not covered.
05:20:16 AM 31st Jul 2014 edited by SpoonElemental
An Implacable Man or The Dreaded (or both) decides or is ordered to kill Bob who is a largely unknown person. Bob ignores the threat and writes it off but when they actually attack Bob immediately decapitates or otherwise kills the threat completely effortlessly.
Is there a trope for someone having taught themselves how to read to show how they "rose above" their previous condition? Or is that already covered by Never Learned to Read (which is more of a cast thing)?
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11:59:12 PM 30th Jul 2014
Is there a trope for this? When one of the heroes is unusually nasty (to whatever degree) to a new character, the new character trends to be a Jerk In Sheep's Clothing.
Do we have a trope for when a character dies by being pulled through an opening (usually by a monster, occasionally by Continuous Decompression or some supernatural force) that's so small, their body folds up on itself and their foot sticks up near their face in transit? It's used in monster movies like Deep Rising, often so that the creature yanking them down can be kept out of view even as it demonstrates its terrible strength.
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08:12:00 PM 30th Jul 2014
Andrew Medium: Music
08:09:25 PM 30th Jul 2014
Do we have a trope for occasions where a character or artist uses a metaphor or comparison without realizing the implications of the metaphor/comparison? I'm thinking of things like, "Our love is real, just like Romeo and Juliet!"
Or, to be specific, there's a musician I really like who wrote a song I really like that includes the lyrics "Forget the truth/Until tomorrow/You'll be my Hughes/I'll be your Harlow." There are some issues with comparing your boyfriend to Howard Hughes, and those issues aren't intentional.
What's the appropriate trope for when something small has more explosive power than it warrants? In Doom the rocket launcher fires D-cell battery sized rockets—justifying why the player in the original game can carry fifty of the things.
Nothing in the text specifically suggests how powerful the rockets are, other than it being a rocket launcher: they use it on "boss" monsters, densely-packed swarms, and one key-card locked door. They're not absurdly powerful like tiny nukes, but a D battery is still very small for what's implied to be like a futuristic LAW or RPG-7.
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05:17:43 AM 29th Jul 2014
"Something small has more explosive power than it warrants"
Atoms. Especially when you crack'em. Just ask Hiroshima.
06:24:28 AM 29th Jul 2014
I'd say it's the inversion of BFG; while BFG played straight is big weapon with big firepower, inversion would be actually small weapon with big firepower.
(at least that's how Men In Black page categorize Noisy Cricket, which is exactly what you describe)
Interesting if we don't have it. Because it could be an inversion of BFG and essentially Pintsized Powerhouse for weapons.
09:30:04 AM 30th Jul 2014
What do we have that covers these two situations:
1. When in-universe, everything is done or said in a way that's pretty much backwards to or the opposite of convention, yet it's treated as normal? Cow and Chicken is a great example of this: male characters are refered to as "Girls," "Ladies," "Gals"; cereal is eaten with forks; a stand-up performance includes the comic telling sad stories, etc.
2. Bob and Alice have different perspectives about something and argue about it, and after they experience it first hand, in the end their perspectives have flipped? For example: in an episode of Dexter's Laboratory, Dee Dee believes ants are icky and need to be stomped while Dexter insists ants are to respected, so he shrinks them down to see what ant life is really like; after Dexter is virtually tortured as a slave ant, and Dee Dee basically just plays with them, when they return to normal size, Dee Dee agrees ants are amazing, while Dexter starts stomping them.
Kill the God is about...well, killing a god; in the sense of a powerful being that represents an aspect of the cosmos. It might involve Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu? if they fight the god head on, but there are plenty of ways to do it without resorting to fisticuffs.
Howdy, I'm a new troper, and hoping to put this under the TV documentary series 'mayday'. Not quite sure what to call it though, I don't think it's 'Defiant to the end' or 'face death with dignity'.
"* Captain Ted Thompson and First Officer William Tansky from Alaska Airlines Flight 261 count as such. On January 31, 2000, their MD-83's horizontal stabilizer suffered a catastrophic failure of its jackscrew. The failure put the jet in a nose down position and inverted the plane. Both Thompson and Tansky fought to the end to recover the aircraft, even attempting to fly the airliner inverted. Sadly, it wasn't enough to save the plane or its 88 passengers and crew. "
Do we have a trope (possibly more of a YMMV) that depicts the assumption that all opinions are crap, or is that just part of the GIFT theory?
I'm referring mostly to when people state an opinion, and regardless of whether or not that opinion is just that- an opinion, it is still crap. Comments and forums are where this is most heavily prevalent, especially if your opinion leads to Flame Bait, Flame War, and unleashes an Internet Backdraft. It doesn't even have to be an inflammatory opinion. If its there, someone will call it crap.
Sort of related to Sturgeon's Law, except that this assumes that ALL opinions are crud. Noticeable on Youtube 90% of the time.
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10:47:44 AM 29th Jul 2014
Looking at the Logical Fallacies page, this could fall under a couple of them. I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for.
02:21:33 PM 29th Jul 2014 edited by LordHerobrine
It's something I see a lot on opinions, specifically in youtube comments. X states an opinion and Y tells him his opinion is crap. Then follows a long hate war where X and Y argue that opinions are opinions and cannot be judged at all. It's part of GIFT in the fact that usually both people sound like jerks, arguing back and forth with a liberal dose of name-calling and ASS-umptions about the other person.
During the argument, a bunch of Logical Fallacies tropes are pulled, however, what usually happens is that X and Y end up arguing over the fallacies and invoking them at the same time. It's never one fallacy trope; it's multiple being invoked in the same conversation.
I was wondering if there was a trope that described this certain activity or preference to argue, since I see it often.
Is there a trope for when a character pretends to be the enemy/rival/ect. of another character for whatever reason, while in reality they're working together? I only found Reverse Mole, and while sort of similar, I'm looking for something where the characters KNOW they're on the same side and purposefully pretending to be enemies.
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04:23:26 PM 29th Jul 2014
Either The Mole or Reverse Mole, depending on whether he's really working for the good guys or the bad guys.
04:24:58 PM 29th Jul 2014 edited by Zanreo
I found Reverse Mole when searching, and while sort of similar, I'm looking for something specifically where the characters KNOW they're on the same side/worked together from the start, and purposefully pretending to be enemies, keeping up that appearance in public. Reverse Mole seems in many cases be when the other character doesn't know they're on the same side.
Which trope it is, when a character faces an enemy who forms several illusions of himself, so that character has to decide which one is the real deal to (for example) shoot? It's certainly related to Spot the Impostor, Spotting the Thread, and similar tropes, but I can't quite pick the right one.
An example: in one episode of Texas Ranger, Walker had to deal with a shaman doing this trick and he had only a knife. Then he noticed that only one of the visages sweats, and threw the knife into his guts.
That's it. Totally not the direction I expected to see it come from. Thanks.
03:24:28 PM 29th Jul 2014
Do we have a trope when subordinate does something before consulting his boss because he has no time? I mean kind of "better to apologize later than wait now" attitude where boss might have no choice but to go along with it.
Is there a trope for how, in games, if you see an egg/larva (especially for insectoid enemies) you will either be required to or at least able to destroy them, but the catch is, that when you destroy the eggs, the creature will always, always (okay not literally, but pretty close to it), emerge unscathed, and sometimes even fully grown?
How are all these queries ending up halfway down the page only a day after being posted?
You Can't Thwart Stage One is more about not being able to stop the Big Bad's Evil Plan before it truly gets rolling, so I don't think so.
Betty has a habit of always getting it just slightly wrong in some vital way, whenever Alice asks for something. She makes it look like she's put in every effort, but it's not exactly what Alice asked for. Alice is not allowed to be disappointed but is expected to suck it up and appreciate the effort. Specifically:
Betty: "I'm going to the store. Does anyone need anything?"
Alice: "I'd like a box of Grape-Nuts cereal, please."
Betty returns with a sack of grapefruit instead. "Oh... that's not what you asked for? I guess I got confused."
Of course, if Alice shows any sign at all of being disappointed, she gets a stern lecture from Carol and/or Debbie. "Nobody's perfect, Alice. Haven't you ever made a mistake in your life? At least Betty tried."
What's the game here? It seems to me if it were actually gaslighting, Betty would be insisting that Alice had asked for grapefruit all along, and never said anything about Grape-Nuts cereal. It's Alice who is confused. Maybe she should call her doctor and have her dosage checked. In this case the goal is to make Alice feel like she's being unreasonable and overdemanding if she presses the issue. She strongly suspects Betty got it wrong on purpose, just so that Carol and Debbie *would* play the "nobody's perfect" card and go after Alice. But then, since they are trying to make Alice feel like she's the one who's off in the head while the rest of them are fine, is that still gaslighting?
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08:41:45 PM 22nd Jul 2014
So what's the focus of the problem? Or is it about the confusion over what the real problem is?
10:22:39 PM 22nd Jul 2014
From what I can gather is this:
Alice asks for something
Betty 'accidentally' gets something wrong, just to piss Alice off
Carol and Debbie side with Betty
I think the difference is that gas lighting is when the goal is to convince Alice that she's losing her mind. This is just BCD messing with her, for funsies or because they hate Alice.
It's the confusion. I'm not sure whether this is a form of gaslighting, although I think it is, or something else.
Pure gaslighting would be if Alice asks for Grape-Nuts, Betty comes home with grapefruit, and then everybody claims Alice asked for grapefruit in the first place. But by "accidentally" getting it wrong and then not allowing Alice to show her disappointment, they *are* trying to convince Alice that she isn't a very nice person. They want her to question herself, instead of recognizing that they are messing with her For the Lulz or For the Evulz. So wouldn't this also be gaslighting?
(nods thoughtfully) The term "passive-aggressive" perfectly applies to Betty "forgetting" what Alice actually wanted, but it seems Passive-Aggressive Kombat is more like "Lovely dress, dear. Too bad they didn't have your size."
08:41:08 PM 25th Jul 2014
I agree with Dan. Some kind of troll.
01:50:30 AM 26th Jul 2014
Are we specifically after Betty deliberately getting it wrong, or Alice merely suspecting that she knows what she's doing?
Can't think of which trope it would fit, but seems like this would get irritating through repetition, or through the consequences of the forgetting being much worse than mere forgetting. Like... well, the example I can think of, not so much with forgetting, is Betty trying to fix Alice's phone and ending up getting it stuck in lock-out mode so they need to factory-reset the phone and lose all the data Alice had on her phone. Or there's a Zits comic in which Pierce tries to fix Jeremy's guitar and ends up breaking it, then progressively taking parts from every other electronic device in the room just to "fix" the guitar, and never being willing to just call it quits and admit he screwed up, as Jeremy just looks on with more and more dismay as every time he turns his back Pierce has grabbed a new piece of something or other....
03:48:47 AM 27th Jul 2014 edited by BradyLady
OK, I think I understand the confusion.
The trope (if it is one) that I'm zeroing in on is, Betty always messes up what Alice asks for, BUT if Alice complains, they all gang up on her to make her feel like SHE is being unreasonable. Betty is messing up on purpose, for the specific reason of setting Alice up to look petty and demanding when she isn't satisfied. Of course, Betty would never admit this (neither will Carol or Debbie) and will make a great point of how she tried her best, but just can't ever seem to make Alice happy.
03:55:23 AM 27th Jul 2014 edited by BradyLady
^^Addendum to the above: They aren't trying to make her think she's going insane, but they ARE trying to make her think there is something wrong with her personality. Their bottom line is that they want Alice to stay feeling vaguely guilty, and full of self-loathing, convinced that she is the problem, not Betty. Chances are it's still going to end with Alice in therapy, and that's why I'm thinking it's a form of gaslighting. (The Zits thing might be Stop Helping Me!?)
I don't think it sounds as malicious as gas lighting, which would be more of a Morality Event Horizon for Betty, Carol and Debbie. They don't sound evil, just obnoxious terrible people. Depends how long the abuse had been going on for, though. Passive-Aggressive Kombat is more about general bitchiness, so to speak, so it's not fully appropriate.
If this is common enough (I don't know any examples myself), it could be worthy of its own trope. Although it would be at risk of The Same but More Specific.
Also, Grape-Nuts cereal?
One or more characters has a time limit to accrue a specific amount of money or else face dire consequences (eg, losing one's house). This plot offers lots of opportunity for variety because money can be obtained in many different ways. I have to assume this one exists somewhere here.
08:45:03 AM 29th Jul 2014 edited by justanotherrandomlurker
When a character instantly falls unconscious by having another character sneak up on them and cover their face (specifically, their nose and mouth) with a hanky or other piece of cloth fall under Instant Sedation or Tap on the Head?
I've seen it quite often in fiction, though I seem to recall it actually being lampshaded/exaggerated on Chappelle's Show once.
Is there a specific trope for when a bad guy killing someone would be logical and adventageous for their situation, but for no real reason they simply tie them up or knock them out instead, even when it goes against their personality?
It reoccurs a lot in the media but the specific thing that got me thinking was an old Super Sentai episode where the Shapeshifter bad guy performed a Kill and Replace plot....except for some reason she inexplicably left the original woman alive, thus allowing the plan to be unraveled.
In games with Karma Meter, sometimes the players' abilities are tied to said meter. Depending on your morality, you may access different abilities, or a general ability would have different effects.
Do we have this? If not, do we need this?
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09:48:59 PM 28th Jul 2014
Pretty sure it's just Karma Meter. There just aren't many games that have taken advantage of using your karma to unlock a Tech Tree or just be incorporated into a Class and Level System. I think one of the Star Wars examples mentions using it to allow wearing certain equipment, though.
Per the description, No-Holds-Barred Beatdown is when the recipient is unable or no longer able to fight back or defend themselves in any way; Curb-Stomp Battle is when the recipient can but is grossly outmatched. There Is No Kill Like Overkill differs from Curb-Stomp Battle in that the latter at least has the semblance of being fair, ie a bodybuilder versus an equal sized boxer. The former is using far more resources than is necessary and doesn't have to apply to combat. An example would be like using a militarized power armor against a common street thug, and unloading the entire ammo load of every weapon it has weapon by weapon even though you saw the thug take the first volley of machine gun fire in the chest and fall over.
Uh, I wonder if they (or at least NHBB and CSB) can be mixed together... the distinction is very small.
09:53:04 PM 25th Jun 2014
NHBB is a subtrope (I think) of CSB, the latter being simply "one side is much stronger than the other, so the fight is one-sided", while the former is a longer beating and frequently involves There's No Kill Like Overkill. The three tropes can overlap.
In short, CSB is about unfair matches, and NHBB is about excessive beatdowns?
02:02:38 AM 26th Jun 2014
Pretty much. Like I said, the first major distinction is whether the person being beat has the capacity to fight/defend in any way. Unconscious, severe injuries, dead, restrained, or any other time when there is no way to fight/defend at all means No-Holds-Barred Beatdown. If they can fight or defend but that ability is largely ineffective, than it's Curb-Stomp Battle.
11:03:41 AM 26th Jun 2014
^ i see, thanks :D
11:47:55 AM 26th Jun 2014
Bizarrely enough, that the complete opposite of what the terms sound like in my head. Any sort of beatdown makes it sound like there's still a fight whereas curbstomping someone is something you do to a fallen foe who can't defend themselves.
Wasn't there a time when the distinction was based on whether it was the protagonists or the antagonists who were the ones involved in a one-sided fight?
03:43:28 AM 28th Jul 2014
Now I wanna ask: where would "death by getting shot multiple times" go into?
Is there a specific trope for when the main character's ex has lucked into a new love who is nightmarishly beyond perfect, so much so that even if the ex didn't rub it in, it would be all the same difference?
I recall seeing this on Dream On, a sitcom starring George Carlin, Herman's Head and not a few others.
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07:13:37 AM 28th Jul 2014
Heya, the trope I'm going for is when a small detail changes between shots in the same scene.
In the video I'm planning to add an example to, a character is wearing an overshirt, then is not, and then inexplicably is again and takes it off.
Its an editing thing, and I know its really common, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of the trope.
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10:34:56 PM 22nd Jul 2014
I remembered a ykttw to this effect before.
10:41:43 PM 22nd Jul 2014
Was it ever put into a trope? I swear there IS a trope for it, I've seen it ... somewhere ...
07:23:26 AM 23rd Jul 2014
It's called a continuity error aka a Film Flub, but last time it came up nobody identified it as having a page here.
08:40:19 PM 25th Jul 2014
So should I launch one?
Its only a minor detail that changes.
07:36:24 AM 26th Jul 2014
I could see this as one of those exampleless "this only defines the term" pages; but it would be trivia, not a trope.
10:34:10 PM 27th Jul 2014
It's the sort of editing mistakes Cinema Sins mentions. I'm had a look but can't find it. Also, would I set up a trivia page via YKTTW (sorry, I'm new to editing)?
07:13:37 AM 28th Jul 2014
Any non-work or Creator/ page ought to go through ykttw.
07:06:08 AM 28th Jul 2014
.. and when I say "not sure", I mean "all", which isn't listed.
Where's the Copspeak trope hiding? It's got to exist somewhere, but I can't figure out what it would be called.
"my place of employment" = at work
"exited the vehicle" = got out of the car
"the residence" = my house
"stated" = said
"verbal altercation" = argument
and so on and so on.
Believed by many participants on courtroom TV to be English; that's what makes it a trope rather than just another kind of professional jargon.
Spock Speak actually specifically mentions "Cop Speak," at least in the real life section. It's just that there are very few fictional examples listed.
10:32:31 PM 27th Jul 2014
What's the trope for when a creature that is normally an element of the fantasy and/or supernatural genres is portrayed in a Magiteky way? E.g. a Biblical angel of this sort may have mechanical wings of shiny metal, high tech-looking armor and weapons (perhaps even a scifi Laser Blade instead of a traditional solid sword), and scifi-style Tron Lines all over their body, armor and weapons, or both.
@Funky Squid: Anachronism Stew would only apply if the anachronism in question is in the setting/environment — e.g. if the futuristically-armored angels in question where depicted in any of the time periods in which many of the Bible's events took place.
@DAN004: That's... rather generic.
@AHI-3000: Science Fantasy is about works and their settings, as it's a genre. Also, you can have Science Fantasy without mixing both scifi and fantasy elements in any single character or group(s) of characters, so Science Fantasy at best would serve as a supertrope to the seemingly missing trope that I'm seeking.
Which trope would this be? The example I'm giving is from MacGyver, but it fits in Anime as well:
In the episode "Hearts Of Steel", Lisa (Mayim Bialik) is thought to have been kidnapped. The father calls in Mac - he had met the family earlier in the season. When Lisa shows up at the house and sees MacGyver, she says his name...and if this were Anime, you'd see the hearts in her eyes as she said it.
What would this be?
Is there a trope for when the protagonists discover that the aliens/monsters/whatever they've been fighting are actually people just like them? (As in the same species, when they thought it was a different species.) I was thinking of a major spoiler in Attack on Titan, but the closest thing I could find was Was Once a Man, and I'm not talking so much about transformation as the plot twist of the reveal. In a very simple case, it could even be a supposed alien removing their spacesuit helmet.
For the record, Monochromatic Eyes contains a handful of examples of this "starfield eyes" design, though I'm not sure if they do fit that trope (depends on how literally/strictly we define "monochromatic" as).
I know, and I didn't dispute that. It still seems like it deserves its own trope, though; maybe I'll make one later when I finish the ones I'm juggling in YKTTW, provided that no one else beats me to it.
06:38:40 PM 27th Jul 2014
The one where the strongest enemy, for all intents and purposes, is defeated long before the end of the work and every villain who comes afterward is stuck in his shadow.
It wasn't just a video game thing. It's when the first (or an early) big bad gets defeated at some point and everything afterward is kind of the fallout from his defeat. Either trying to undo the damage he caused, stopping whatever chain of events he set in motion before he died, or just dealing with new villains trying to take the opportunity to rise to power now that he's gone (and even they admit that he was better than they were). He's dealt with early, but still very much the biggest enemy of the work.
I remember adding an entry to it several years ago.
04:25:00 PM 27th Jul 2014
The Remnant? Like in Return of the Jedi the Emperor is killed and therefore the Empire is defeated, but in the Expanded Universe novels the war continues for some time because, just 'cause you kill the head of the empire doesn't mean the empire suddenly ceases to exist.
Sometimes there is a quick montage of certain actions, where frames are stitched together in short sequence. Example would be the drug fixing sequences in Requiem for a Dream (NSFW!). Same technique is used in Guy Richie's Snatch as a travel montage of the Russian gangster Boris.
I didn't see this effect mentioned in the tropes part of either movie.
Is there a specific trope about children who have traits that contrast their parents and vice versa?
Think Sibling Yin-Yang, however instead of it being between siblings, it's between a parent and child. Also somewhat similar also to Contrasting Sequel Main Character except the contrasting characters maybe found in the same work at the same time, and they may not be main characters. May lead to Antagonist Offspring if the contrast is too much.
Basically a Foil trope but specifically about parents and their children.
In Big Bully, there are two cases. David is a nerdy guy who was bullied when he was younger, while his son is the typical 90's cool kid but a bully. Roscoe is a big guy who bullied David in the past, while Roscoe's son is a bit of a nerd and somewhat ironically is the kid David's son bullies.
In Nanatsu No Taizai, Dreyfus is an ambitious Well-Intentioned ExtremistKnight Templar who won't let anything stand in his way, even going as far as to stage a coup against his king. Dreyfus' son Griamor is a loyal and devoted knight who has sworn to protect one of the kingdom's princesses. Their contrast is even highlighted by their powers. Dreyfus' power is to literally blast through anything in his way. Griamor's a Barrier Warrior. Despite their contrasts though, Dreyfus is a "Well Done, Dad" Guy who cares deeply for his son.
In One Piece, Wapol's father was renowned in life as a benevolent king who was loved by his subjects. Wapol is a tyrant who not only abused his power but abandoned his people at the first sign of trouble. He is very much hated by his people that immediately armed themselves when he shows his ugly mug again.
The main characters of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure that are the children of a previous main character counts. I haven't yet read anything about them other than what's written in Tv Tropes but they kinda count. The grandparent/grandson characters on the other hand may count to an extent. Jonathan was a standard British boy scout gentleman hero. Jonathan's grandson Joseph was a Crazy Awesome British American who was anything but a gentlemen. Joseph's grandson Jotaro was a Japanese delinquent who was not only built like a brick wall but also had a personality of one.
In Avatar and Legend Of Korra. Aang was a happy go lucky kid in the first series. Aang's son Tenzin is a stern mentor who isn't as happy go lucky as his father was. Toph was a independent girl who ran away from a strict home. Toph's daughter Lin is Da Chief who decided to follow in her mother's footsteps as a cop despite Toph's wishes. The Earth King was a Nice Guy animal lover but was a puppet king in the first series. The Earth King's daughter is a bitch and dictator who's allergic to animals but supposedly enjoys eating them.
11:55:44 AM 27th Jul 2014 edited by Bisected8
^ Don't forget that each reincarnation of the Avatar is implied to be a foil to the next (Rouko was a serious commanding figure, Aang was more light hearted and gentle, Korra is Hot-Blooded...).
It looks like a case of a missing supertrope; it might be worth taking to YKTTW.
^ they don't have to be antagonistic or contrasting in morality though. Just contrasting in general.
Yeah, ykttw plz.
04:40:00 PM 27th Jul 2014
If this one exists, it may be related to OOC Moment. It's when a performer gets a gig with a theme that goes completely against their style or ideals, forcing them to sell out, usually as a result of a crappy agent, or of really needing the money. An example would be when Ice Cube accidentally got booked for a D&D audiobook, or in Corey in the House, when they had to play a polka gig
Do we have a trope where a character suddenly shifts the mood by uttering a self-deprecating one liner?
Ex: "No, It's fine. They can go on without me. *looks down with the textbook anime sadness facial expression* It's not like I'll be missed or anything."
Well... It is not exactly a Wham Line since these self-deprecating one liners are sometimes expected, and they don't radically alter the plot, just a possible scene. They may be important later, but at that scene, all it does is shift the mood. Self D one liners CAN be Wham Line, but not always.
It does cause Mood Whiplash, and I was actually looking at that before I posted. It's different from that either because it's one line uttered that either someone or the audience hears that whips the mood around.
A good example would be in the anime No Game, No Life, where in a certain episode, Sora remarked that in the utopian world where everything is a game, this line.
"When it comes to war and killing, we have far more expertise than you do."
It is said with a sort of self-deprecating undertone where the fact is sad but true. There's others too that I'm not thinking off at the present.
Is this unique enough from both Wham Line and Mood Whiplash to be trope able? I can think of many examples for it.
Can you combine tropes and get more specific like that? Mood Whiplash combined with a One-Liner.
I suppose I can sub-trope it from a Wham Line.. On the other hand, I did find Self-Deprecation.
I can sub-trope it under Self-Deprecation as a one-liner, but I think that falls under Tropes that are more specific... which doesn't work, last time I checked.
I'm looking for a trope where a character thinks they are going to get in trouble, but they actually end up being rewarded because what they did demonstrated useful skills.
Example: in the first Harry Potter book, Harry thinks he is going to be reprimanded by McGonagall for riding the broom before he was supposed to, but instead ended up being offered a spot on the Quidditch team because he did so well at catching the Remembrall.
I have an few, what's the trope for an fire-breathing T-Rex (i.e. Grimlock) in a Transformers game; being the only female in a given faction: 5 robots combining into an larger, more powerful being; the developers getting a character's model wrong, and featuring an charcter that's supposed to be dead in a another medium? A.I. units ignoring the player's traps?
Pyrentis, I'm talking about the Transformers franchise., and what sets Grimlock apart is that his alt-mode is an life-sized fire-breathing T-Rex rather than an car or tank. And about 6, I meant to say that the enemy A.I. completely ignores traps by setting them off rather than disabling them in favor of attacking the player's army. But 3 is right.
07:49:33 PM 24th Jul 2014
Please put each of your questions into separate queries.
Dinosaurs Are Dragons could work in this case but I need another trope with 1. Note that he's the ONLY Dinobot who appears in the game, despite the rest of his team appearing in the movie. As for 4, in the game I'm YKTT Wing Rise of the Darl Spark is chronologically sandwhiched between War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron. In Fall of Cybertron: Megatron's character model remains the same as it did in War for Cybertron until a living city pummeled him to death. The damage was so severe, that Soundwave had to alter his master's appearance in order to revive him. So canonically speaing, he should look more or less the same way as he did in War for Cybertron, rather than using the endgame Fall of Cybertron model. By the way, what's the tropes when the game keeps spamming mook-level enemy reinforcements without notice or when the character crosses an certain point on the map, and the characters executing a unannounced contigency plan? As in Shockwave ordering Soundwave to plant explosives on a monorail to cut off the enemy's escape(this was completely off-screen until Shockwave mentions it.) another example is when Jetfire using Trypticon's weaponry to eliminte a hoarde of mooks from a great distance, and yes his mission wasn't mentioned until Optimus radios him.
Looking for something exactly like Badass Boast, except it's someone ELSE saying it about a character. Like when an advocate of the hero brags about what the hero is capable of.
Is this People Sit on Chairs? Or just not trope-y enough to be troped?
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01:43:10 AM 27th Jul 2014
It's still Badass Boast as long as it is about boasting. If they describe someone in fear (instead of in pride), it's not a boast.
A gag where someone gets handed a modern version of their current tool, but use it the way they used the old one with much less efficiency (i.e. giving a woodcutter a chainsaw which he drags back and forth across the log, giving a medieval warrior a rifle with which he clubs things, etc.).
Something like that, although more about not being used to the new one instead of Rule of Cool.
The specific instance I'm looking to trope is a guy flicking his e-cigarette away after taking a puff, only to scramble after it as he remembers it's not a cigarette butt.
Currently the following content is listed under Deliberately Bad Example in a work-page, but the differences between that trope and Anti-Role Model was so confusing such that I'm not sure which of these two tropes should this falls into:
[Name] is hired by sports teams because she has zero sportsmanship, and as a result causes the team members to self-reflect teamwork and such.
While of course an example can belong to both, does it actually belong to both?
10:01:53 PM 26th Jul 2014
I'd say yes.
10:00:30 PM 26th Jul 2014
We have The Perfectionist, but do we have a trope for when a person (who normally may not be a perfectionist) suddenly turns into one when given an otherwise simple task? For example, there's a Barney Miller episode where the cops need to make a porn movie in order to infiltrate a porno ring. They have Harris make the movie, but instead of a simple porno, he makes a well-crafted, plot-heavy movie that happens to contain a sex scene.
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07:25:33 PM 26th Jul 2014
I guess what I'm looking for is not so much a perfectionist as someone who takes a simple task and turns it into something big and complicated.