• 1 May 22nd, 2018 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 01:22:08 PM
    Bob is arrogant, selfish, and abusive. The world could literally be in the middle of an apocalypse and he could care less as long as he has enough to eat. Then the one character whom he was cruelest to randomly decides to be nice to him, to which Bob abruptly transforms into the paragon of virtue and saves everyone else in a heroic sacrifice. It's not a parody or played for laughs. I'm pretty sure it's an example of bad writing. Reply
  • 1 May 22nd, 2018 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 01:20:24 PM
    Our protagonist, who is an adult man, has a crush/unrequited love for a high school-age girl. Because of the age difference, there's no way their relationship could work out, and this love is played sympathetically.

    Is this Age-Gap Romance, or is there something more specific? Reply
  • 0 May 22nd, 2018 at 12:12PM
    Randy, a ten year old boy, acts, well, like a ten year old boy, which the fandom takes issue with. "What bad writing." Everyone says. "He should be more mature." Meanwhile, the fandom opinion of Charlie is very good, but Alice finds him such a jerk, whenever people praise his complexity she grumbles that there's nothing complex about being a 100% Insufferable Douche, ignoring his backstory and the nuances behind his actions. This could be a sort 'Fandom' logical fallacy-giving a ten year old character the maturity of a ten year old is perfectly realistic, and not bad writing at all, even if some people dislike it. Also, Alice eventually comes to terms with the fact that a character can be well written (and completely unlikable). Or a fanfiction writer rewrites ten year old Randy as a bland mini-adult, which everyone treats as somehow better, despite being unrealistic, OOC, AND one dimensional. Reply
  • 1 May 22nd, 2018 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 12:09:18 PM
    Earlier, I brought up a personal experience from World of Warships, which petered out at Unspoken Plan Guarantee. Today, I have another one:

    In a match where I was playing as the Battleship USS Texas, it eventually got down to just me, and four enemy ships: the Carrier, two Cruisers, plus a third Cruiser that was halfway across the map. As I came in and tried to take them out, sinking the two Cruisers, I managed to withstand over half a dozen torpedoesnote  across all three ships. Eventually, after running out of health, Damage Control Party charges, and patience, I finally went into chat and shouted "Enough with the torpedoes!" across the entire match. Five seconds later, Cruiser #3 came out from behind the island near the Carrier and OHK'd me with a single HE round, not a full-battery barrage, nor a hit that lit me on fire or blew up my magazine, but a single direct hit from a single shell.

    What I want to know is if this is an example of Tempting Fatenote , an inverse of Be Careful What You Wish Fornote , or some other trope. Reply
  • 2 May 22nd, 2018 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 10:54:08 AM
    what is red right hand Reply
  • 1 May 22nd, 2018 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 09:44:21 AM
    Is there a trope concerning a character who is unaware of the dangers in his surroundings (yet somehow manages to evade said dangers)? Reply
  • 1 May 10th, 2018 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 07:12:53 AM
    Part of Paratext, but it isn't indexed there. While The Annotated Edition overlaps well enough most of the time, the foreword/afterword, and postscripts used in letters (such as Epistolary Novel) are a way to separate part of the message/story. But I can't seem to find anything except Fun With Footnotes and The Annotated Edition, neither of which really match every occasion.

    The example I'm thinking of right now overlaps with By "No", I Mean "Yes", where the "yes" doesn't occur until the postscript. Reply
  • 1 May 22nd, 2018 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 07:05:59 AM
    A character with certain rigid principles in life plays a game where he has some degree of freedom. Even if it goes against the point of the game, there are some actions he refuses to do because of his real-life principles (and may in fact claim it's the game's fault for not accepting his restrictions).

    For instance, an RPG where completing quests from various gods is necessary to obtain the Infinity +1 Sword, but he refuses to do so on grounds of being part of a monotheistic faith. Or an Actual Pacifist who does Pacifist Runs even in multiplayer shooters where he only plays medics and never uses a gun, or a vegetarian not eating any meat-based items in-game, or never buys his Sims a television because Old Media Are Evil, etc. Reply

      Doesn't sound like a trope to me. At best, it's evidence that they strongly believe in their principles, which might be part of Morality Tropes.
  • 5 May 18th, 2018 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 06:00:29 AM
    A character displays Magikarp Power, starting weak, but rocketing ahead of others, but plateaus lower than other characters, essentially becoming a Crutch Character late in the game. The clearest example I can think of is Donnel from Fire Emblem Awakening Reply

      Okay. What are you looking for?

      I think the sought trope is "A character with Magikarp Power, who when awakened, becomes a Game-Breaker."

      Doesn't seem like a distinct trope as much as a combination of the two tropes already stated. No reason it can't be both.

      ^^Except there's basically a time limit on their Game-Breaker status. Because they max out lower, their rapid growth eventually ceases to be useful and they may even fall back behind.

      A variant of Overrated and Underleveled (The Magikarp Power boost is eventually overcome), then?
  • 3 May 19th, 2018 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 05:32:12 AM
    I'm looking for the name of this trope so I can read more on these cases.

    One example which comes to mind is how the Francoist regime censored the movie Mogambo: in order to avoid the topic of adultery, they changed the relationship of the Nordleys from a wed couple to siblings, making them an incestuous couple in the process. Something similar happened with our version of Sailor Moon, in which the censors also changed a lesbian couple into clingy cousins. (Seriously, what's up with our censors and incest?)

    So, how would you call this kind of trope, when censors make a medium more inappropiate than the original version? Reply

      Some kind of Bowdlerise/Relationship Writing Fumble combo would apply to the specific examples.

      Thank you, but I'm looking for a more general trope, it doesn't have to be specific to incest (they were the only examples that came to mind, sorry), but to censorship in general which is way worse than the original intentions of the author.

      Dub Text?
  • 3 May 21st, 2018 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 04:22:17 AM
    A character wearing glasses or reflective eyegear (gas mask, etc.) and surrounded by/looking at fire, so the flames are reflected in his eyes and make him look scary or evil. Reply
  • 1 May 22nd, 2018 at 2:02AM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 03:22:08 AM
    There's a character that is generally bubbly, likes to trip off some random rocks, Screams Like a Little Girl over a presence of mice, but always gets chosen for Stealth-Based Mission. What tropes fits this character? Reply
  • 1 May 21st, 2018 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 02:26:14 AM
    A group has a policy for new recruits; they take them somewhere private but not too far from their homes, tell them their mission of fighting monsters/aliens, etc... And if the recruit reacts badly, they erase his memory and put him back where they found him. They may even do this repeatedly if the recruit has skills they really want. Magic and sci-fi settings have Laser-Guided Amnesia, but even a relatively mundane group can just force a liter of booze down his throat and leave him at the local drunk tank to sleep off the hangover. Reply
  • 1 May 21st, 2018 at 11:11PM
    Anime
    Lastest Reply: 22nd May, 2018 12:14:37 AM
    Can one have a Captain Ersatz of a Historical-Domain Character ? Someone who is clearly a reference to a real-life person. but has a different name etc. And it's only one character, so not a Roman Clef.

    In the anime Uma Musume the character is actually based on an RL horse. While the main characters are based on horses and licensed and have names and designs based om the horses, this supporting character represents a horse (incidentally, a dead horse by now) who could not be licensed, so she has a different name (with a clever reference) and a design that is a Shout-Out to an anime classic, not the horse. But I won't use Bland-Name Product, horses as prototypes are not products as such. Used Captain Ersatz for now but is it really applicable? Reply
  • 0 May 21st, 2018 at 6:06PM
    What's the trope where a whole plot develops inside the main plot and isn't relevant at all for the main plot aside of filling the time, like the SpongeBob movie, when Sponge Bon and Plankton traveled in time to recover the formula, but they got the wrong one and had to go out of water? And the other one when a character (frequently The Hero) has shown to have more power than we thought, and can be oblivious or undifferent of that? Reply
  • 0 May 21st, 2018 at 5:05PM
    Is there a trope for a character in LGBT works who helps the newly out person learn about being LGBT? Reply
  • 1 May 21st, 2018 at 2:02PM
    Videogame
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 04:38:29 PM
    Is there a trope for when an enemy who initially appears as a boss shows up later as a random Mook? Reply
  • 3 May 18th, 2018 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 04:18:36 PM
    Basically, when a character suddenly remembers everything after forgetting an important/significant portion of their life or possibly even their whole life. Naturally, this is somewhat realistic as amnesia typically doesn't work that way in real life. People with amnesia typically regain their memories slowly rather than all at once. I suppose that would make this Easy Amnesia but I'm looking more looking for that specific moment when a character suddenly remembers everything they'd forgotten, often via flashback or some similar device. They may grab their head in pain, or pass out, or do something else to show that this regaining of memories is physically affecting them. Anyway, I was just wondering if we have trope for this and/or what it would fall under? Thanks! Reply

      Sounds like an inversion of Laser-Guided Amnesia.

      I digress — the focus seems to be on the moment the memory is regained rather than the amnesia itself. I think this would make for a new trope.

      Alright, thank you both. I'll consider making a new trope page later.
  • 0 May 21st, 2018 at 4:04PM
    So a lesser villain has just turned against their leader and killed/defeated them or a villain was bested by the hero but instead of finishing him the hero has decided to let him live. As the hero(es) turn to leave, the former villain asks, "What do I do now?" The hero(es) may choose to ignore him/her and continue leaving, they may just shrug their shoulders, or they might just even give them an answer. Sometimes they may even answer "you can come with us if you want", offering the former villain a chance to join the good guys on their adventure or (if used at the end of a work) just hang around and be friends with them. Does anyone have any idea what trope(s) this would fall under? Kinda like So What Do We Do Now? but can come in the middle or at the end of a work, and usually revolves around tying up the loose ends of just one person, generally a villain or, in some cases, a neutral. Thanks! Reply
  • 2 May 20th, 2018 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 03:40:54 PM
    More precisely, someone says something that make a character realize/remember a really simple fact.

    That realization makes the character immediately change their mind/decides on something that they have been contemplating over for a long time. Very frequently they will also perform better after this realization.

    Example: Pro sportsman frustrated about his recent lack of form. His team-mates and manager all tell him to step up his game. Ask friend/mentor for advice. Friend/mentor said something that made him remember that his job is fun and he loves it. Recovered his form and went on to become a world-class player. Reply
  • 0 May 21st, 2018 at 10:10AM
    I'm wondering if there is a trope for a character who doesn't have any other purpose in the story aside from "being the guy/girl listening to the other (much more important) characters" as they talk about... Pretty much anything the author feels like dumping into the audience, but can't find a way to work it into the plot.

    Thus, the writer chooses to create a character (or to assign a pre-existing one to this role) who will be in a scene in which the Hero/Villain/Major Character goes on a rant about something of importance to the plot or that serves to help flash out the character's personality . It's basically a soliloguy being watched by one person.

    Here is an example: Amber is an unpopular girl who is the butt of many jokes and one day feels like getting things off her chest. The writer knows this is an important moment for character development, but thinks that having Amber recite all of her troubles into the wind would be... weird. Well, no worries! For Amber calls her best friend Marie who immediately sits down to listen to all that Amber has to say. Once the discourse is over, Amber thanks her friend for being a good listener and Marie disappears into thin air until the next time Amber needs someone to hear her out. Reply
  • 5 May 13th, 2018 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 09:59:57 AM
    You know that thing where a bunch of characters are isolated in a way that might lead to Situational Sexuality... and then suddenly a character of their preferred gender comes along and, voila, instant harem?

    Note that this can be downplayed with just one character undergoing extended isolation before Meet Cute. Reply
  • 1 May 21st, 2018 at 8:08AM
    Videogame
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 09:17:04 AM
    What do you call the trope where MMORPGs have "event re-runs / redux" that basically allows new players to play old events that have been updated to meet the game's current quality. The said event has ran before, but on its second iteration, new features are added. Is it Updated Re-release? Reply
  • 2 May 21st, 2018 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 09:09:21 AM
    I've searched for tropes keying on "Uniform" and "Military," but didn't find anything. Is there a trope for when a character in a medium has a uniform which belies what we know about the character? It's always comical to me as a veteran to see stuff like that.

    Examples: In Western Animation's G.I. Joe, the character Shipwreck is rank E-7 and his uniform is something an E-7 would never have worn.

    In Live Action TV's Gilmore Girls, a character known to have graduated and joined the Navy a year prior is shown wearing a uniform whose markings indicate he has been in the Navy for between eight and eleven years.

    Thanks! Couldn't find the right one. Reply
  • 1 May 20th, 2018 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 21st May, 2018 02:46:11 AM
    Specifically it's more of an audience reaction (so maybe not tropeable) but when you read a book and they tell you that something costs $3.50, which the characters react to like it's a lot of money. And it was - back when the book was written, but now that time has passed that large sum of money doesn't sound large at all. Reply
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