• 0 Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:02PM
    12th Feb, 2016 02:35:53 PM
    Is there an article for the OPPOSITE of this Ret Canon? As in, when an adaptation starts fairly differently from the source material, but becomes closer to it later? If not, I think there should be one. Reply
  • 0 Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:02PM
    12th Feb, 2016 02:24:42 PM
    I have a situation where one minor character has asked the main characters to watch her dog. One of the main characters draws some sketches of the dog and sends them to her. She can only comment on how cute her dog is rather than the quality of the artwork. What would be a good trope for that? Reply
  • 2 Feb 12th, 2016 at 1:01PM
    12th Feb, 2016 01:03:41 PM
    So, I've noticed a thing where when someone's trying to hotwire something, a common gag or plot-twist is to have them make things worse. Do we have anything for that? Reply
    • 12th Feb, 2016 01:41:45 PM
      Like when Han tries to "hotwire" the bunker door open in Return Of The Jedi, but ends up closing another door instead? Ctrl-F on Jedi's page failed to find anything specific, but Nice Job Breaking It Hero makes a decent general trope for these situations.
    • 12th Feb, 2016 02:37:06 PM
      ^Possibly like a subtrope of that, but while the heroes are often the ones involved, it doesn't necessarily have to be them. It could be villains or anyone really.
  • 1 Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:12PM
    12th Feb, 2016 12:22:53 PM
    What's the trope when a protagonist reveals his true face in front of his family and/or friends? Example:He is a spy and fights someone in front of them or he is a killer and they see him killing someone. Kinda like that scene from the movie Drive where the protagonist is in the elevator with the girl he likes and she thinks he is the nicest guy in the world but then he smashes a hitman's face right in front her. Reply
  • 1 Feb 12th, 2016 at 10:10AM
    12th Feb, 2016 10:26:43 AM
    What is the trope called where a couple of friends decide they will go on a mission together to find something out and while they are sneaking around they make really obvious bird calls? There is also a variation where average people run through the scene and react to the strange 'sneaking' either by ignoring it, or strangely not noticing it, or making 'look at that'/incredulous type mimes. Reply
  • 6 Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:02AM
    12th Feb, 2016 02:48:40 AM
    What is the trope called where the villain is shocked at a "bad" thing that the (anti)-hero did. For example the hero and the villain are fighting and to get the upper hand the hero grabs a loved from the villain and threatens to kill her. The villain is seen with a shocked in face. Reply
  • 3 Feb 12th, 2016 at 2:02AM
    12th Feb, 2016 02:26:11 AM
    I could've sworn this was already a page: unsettling/uncanny small towns with two-word names, like Twin Peaks, Gravity Falls, Wayward Pines, Happy Valley, Sleepy Hollow, Hemlock Grove, etc? Usually, but not always eponymous to the media - Devil's Kettle (Jennifer's Body) is another one. Reply
    • 12th Feb, 2016 03:15:53 AM
      It's a specific example of The Place. I can't find a trope that focusses on two-word names though.
    • 12th Feb, 2016 07:18:34 AM
      Uncanny Village or Town With A Dark Secret. Not sure which since I'm not familiar with all your examples.
    • 12th Feb, 2016 07:39:41 AM
      I suspect you're right and this probably already exists in some form. I'd browse Naming Conventions and Title Tropes and see if you can find what you're looking for. I'll browse around and see if I can find something.

      EDIT: While not specific to two-word names, I think several of them fall under Cutesy Name Town.
  • 1 Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:12AM
    12th Feb, 2016 12:58:40 AM
    Are two related to each other? And how? Reply
  • 1 Feb 12th, 2016 at 12:12AM
    12th Feb, 2016 12:41:09 AM
    What's the difference of Harmless Villain and The Family For The Whole Family? Reply
    • 12th Feb, 2016 02:22:28 AM
      As far as I can make out, a Harmless Villain displays all the signs of villainy but extremely scaled down - they never actually want to hurt anyone, and if they want to steal something it's "because they're a villain" rather than for any actual nefarious reason.

      On the other hand, The Family For The Whole Family would be quite willing to hurt people, if only they weren't so incompetent.

      Basically a Harmless Villian will shoot the protagonist with a water pistol, The Family For The Whole Family will try to shoot them with a real gun but will forget about the safety catch, and will then drop the gun, possibly accidentally shooting his partner in the rear.
  • 1 Feb 11th, 2016 at 11:11PM
    11th Feb, 2016 11:48:02 PM
    Do we have a page like this? Where in media, ice and snow are often portrayed as white or light blue? Reply
  • 3 Feb 11th, 2016 at 10:10PM
    11th Feb, 2016 10:14:05 PM
    The cliche of a kohai hoping their senpai will "notice them" (how? why?) has gotten so many parodies — the Senpai Kohai page itself makes a crack at it, a popular Tumblr text post opines that your Senpai can't notice you because the Bishie Sparkle is blinding them, a Yandere Simulator update video makes a point of telling you not to attract Senpai's notice — but I'm wondering if there are any straight examples out there?

    All I even know about the cliche is phrases to the effect of "Senpai, notice me!" Is it a Dead Unicorn Trope, or just not distinct enough from the Senpai Kohai dynamic to merit its own page? Reply
  • 2 Feb 11th, 2016 at 9:09PM
    11th Feb, 2016 09:31:26 PM
    I thought of a trope when someone pulls down/flips up someone else's skirt. May be done with a guy's pants too. Either for a prank or (for dirty fighters) a distraction. Wondering if we have it.

    Related is when the skirt/pants go down by accident. Reply
  • 2 Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:06PM
    11th Feb, 2016 06:43:03 PM
    I come across this one several times, but don't know, if it have a name. It's a battle, where villain has some really problematic attack/defense/superpower, which vould makes him seemingly impossible to beat, but hero coincidentally has the power/set of powers which allows him/her to negate/avoid/survive/e.t.c. villain ability. Basically it's battle, that could be won only by one character, and he is the one, who fights. (also, it's not applied to the scenarios, when character had to train to avoid villain ability - it's all just a dumb luck). So, is there trope like this on the site? Reply
  • 1 Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:06PM
    11th Feb, 2016 06:31:52 PM
    Is there a trope where a character is deemed a target for death because of how intelligent they are? I'm not really looking at Killed To Uphold The Masquarade—that could fit here, but I'm talking more along the lines of actual factions trying to win something. The example we're working with is, say, Armin Arlert from Attack on Titan. Annie expresses regret that she didn't kill him, because he was smart enough to find out who she was and corner her. Reiner and Bertholdt both come within seconds of killing him, deeming him too smart and thus being too much an advantage to the opponent. Reply
  • 3 Feb 11th, 2016 at 12:12PM
    11th Feb, 2016 12:57:55 PM
    What is the trope where an enemy is different than another eney just becaue of a small detail. In a game I remeber where there was a wraith enemy but when it has a scythe it's referred to as a reaper, but once you take the scythe away it's called a wraith again. Reply
  • 2 Feb 11th, 2016 at 12:12PM
    11th Feb, 2016 12:53:26 PM
    Well, my question is more towards anime movies, actually, which most of them are filler stories.

    So, I was looking on TV Tropes if there was a trope about a kind of "filler character" which shows up especially for this story, more commonly created just for the movie, and recieves great highlight, featured such as a "new girl", but, as the movie plot goes on, this new character is set to... disappear (magically or not). Or maybe just go (far far) away, so, it won't interfere on the regular show story.

    This character, just as events that occurred in the movie, will never get to be mencioned by the regular characters during the series, even if they managed to save the world together, and this character became a great friend, or even a (possible) lover for the regular protagonist. Of course, fillers are fillers.

    Oh, and actually, the very presence of such character is directly related with the movie's plot issue.

    There should be lots of examples, but the ones I can remember right now is Melody from Pokémon The Movie 2000, and Senna from Bleach: The Memories of Nobody.

    Well, of course I have found the http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneShotCharacter trope, but I was looking for something more specific, since this trope is aimed at series. I there isn't one, it can not be helped, I'm gonna stick with One Shot Character..... =P

    Thanks in advance! Reply
    • 11th Feb, 2016 01:46:55 PM
      I think Canon Immigrant or Canon Foreigner should do the trick, since they're introduced only in the movies. Read the pages and see what you think.
    • 11th Feb, 2016 02:10:29 PM
      Sounds good to me, actually! Not directly related to movies, but still, very similar to what I'm searching. Well, if someone else finds yet another trope that could fit it, please answer as well.
  • 1 Feb 11th, 2016 at 12:12PM
    11th Feb, 2016 12:02:41 PM
    I've seen this dozens of times in sitcoms. A accidentally sends a letter to / leaves a voice mail for / sends a text to B, and rather than explaining the situation and acting like a rational adult (in which case there would be no episode), A (often with the aid of a cohort) breaks into B's home or office, hacks into the voice mail system, or steals their phone to delete the text before B has a chance to read it. Additional hilarity ensues when B catches (or almost catches) A in the act, at which point A has no choice but to hide behind a desk, or come up with an excuse for why A is in B's office, is on B's desk phone, has B's mobile phone in their hand, and so on.

    Frasier did this at least once. It came up again on this week's Crazy Ex Girlfriend. I figured it's gotta be catalogued here, but I haven't been able to find it... Reply
  • 2 Feb 11th, 2016 at 6:06AM
    11th Feb, 2016 06:09:34 AM
    What's the difference of No One Should Survive That, Normally I Would Be Dead Now and No One Could Survive That? Reply
  • 2 Feb 11th, 2016 at 5:05AM
    11th Feb, 2016 05:28:51 AM
    What's the difference of Human Pack Mule and Item Caddy? Reply
    • 11th Feb, 2016 07:22:15 AM
      Human Pack Mule is a Butt Monkey who gets forced to carry everyone's items and gear. An Item Caddy is a character who specialises in using items rather than using brute strength, magic etc.
    • 11th Feb, 2016 07:32:09 PM
      Human Pack Mule - Dumb Muscle that carries your stuff for you. Muscle optional.

      Item Caddy - a character that has "uses items better than other people" as (at least part of) their ability set. The artificer class in D&D 3.5 is a great example- they can make magical items at a discount, use more of them at once and activate them more easily than other characters, and they can turbo charge many such items (ie, they can Dual wield two level 5 Wands of Fireball while making each act like a level 7 Wand Of Fireball, which is expressly impossible for other characters)

  • 1 Feb 11th, 2016 at 1:01AM
    11th Feb, 2016 01:38:27 AM
    Where On Earth Is Carmen Sandiego is a cartoon where the characters are inside a game. Does it go under Show Within A Show or another trope? Reply
    • 11th Feb, 2016 05:18:08 AM
      Yup, that trope counts "game within a show".
  • 2 Feb 10th, 2016 at 8:08PM
    10th Feb, 2016 08:24:33 PM
    We have Mistaken For Prostitute, but do we have a trope for people being mistaken to be patronizing a prostitute?

    In any rate, for the purpose of Mistaken For Prostitute, does Compensated Dating count as prostitution? Reply
  • 5 Feb 10th, 2016 at 7:07PM
    10th Feb, 2016 07:08:30 PM
    I have seen several occasions where the hero is hiding somewhere and the bad guys are looking for him. The camera focuses on the door where the person is hiding, then cuts to the bad guys appraoching the door from outside. After several cuts back and forth, the bad guys kick open the door... to reveal an empty room. The hero turns out to have been in a totally different place the whole time (not just hiding behind the door, or having just escaped out the window). Related to Not So Dire. I saw this at the beginning of Ml: Rogue Nation and the season two premiere of Helix. Reply
  • 2 Feb 10th, 2016 at 2:02PM
    10th Feb, 2016 02:21:56 PM
    I was wondering if there were any tropes for villains that either exist or become villains for the simple reason that the story the author wants to do needs a villain. In many cases this would probably be a YMMV, since if a character has been around for a while there's likely to be actions that can be re-interpreted in a different way to make them look villainous beforehand, like with Hans in Frozen, who some have argued had foreshadowing beforehand, though much of it could just as easily be seen differently and accompanies actions that seem to go against the "villain" idea. Either way, the core is a villain whose presence or Heel Face Turn is pretty much out of nowhere, without any real warning or indication beforehand. Reply
  • 8 Feb 10th, 2016 at 9:09AM
    10th Feb, 2016 09:01:45 AM
    I'm not sure if we have this as a trope but here goes. Basically someone, lets say the Big Bad, has Alice and wants the Mac Guffin from The Hero Bob. Big Bad forces a sadistic choice: Give him the Mac Guffin or Alice dies. Bob isn't sure what to do at first, then makes the choice to give up the Mac Guffin to save Alice. Alice, being Genre Savvy, knows that if the Big Bad gets the Mac Guffin, he'll win. So she decides to make the choice for Bob and lets herself die so Bob doesn't give up the Mac Guffin because it's too important. Another example could be the same example as above but the Big Bad gets annoyed at how long Bob is taking and just kills Alice because Bob took too long.

    I know this sounds like a Sadistic Choice but my inquiry is based around that scenario where someone has to make the choice, but someone else does it for them. Reply