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openQuestion about Auto-Erotic Troping Videogame
The Power Bomberman team promoted me to tester a couple of weeks ago. Where does that leave me in regards to Auto-Erotic Troping? On the one hand, I'm not a creator, artist, writer or coder like that page says, but on the other, I do play a role in its production.
(I haven't edited any of the subpages since my promotion, because that's a potential rule break.)
openEdit War on Kirby and the Forgotten Land Videogame
On VideoGame.Kirby And The Forgotten Land, Createch has removed the brief text on Sexy Cat Person citing the Mouthful Mode trailer as its source three times now, running afoul of both Edit War and Creating a Work Page for an Upcoming Work ("When writing an example, make sure you are noting the source.").
openPossible edit war on FanWorks/FridayNightFunkin Videogame
On the fanworks page for Friday Night Funkin', Edd234 made this edit, linking to a mod called “Vs. Air”.
A few minutes later, LuigiMario79 reverted the edit, citing a red link, only for Edd234 to add it back in.
I already sent a PM to Edd234 about the issue along with a link to how to make a work page, but I’m holding off on reverting the edit until a mod can intervene.
UPDATE: The page for Vs Air is already being made. Please ignore.
Edited by YuriHaru567openWork page with (probably) no non-character tropes? Videogame
Billie Bust Up! is a game that is still in development. I know we prefer to keep character tropes on the Character pages, and I'm concerned that all of the tropes currently on the main page are character tropes (also, most of them are already listed on the Characters page too.) Since all we have are a few trailers and a short demo, there's not much other information we can pull from right now. What is the best way to handle this?
openRequest for Princess Connect Re:Dive to Have a Tear Jerker Page Videogame
With Princess Connect Re:Dive hitting its 4th anniversary and their global servers just having their 1st anniversary, I feel that more pages on the tropes page would benefit its growth on TV Tropes, specifically the Tear Jerker page (or lack thereof). There are plenty of sad moments in the game that should warrant their own page, and shatter the illusion that Priconne is just a happy go lucky gatcha with no tension.
open Werewolf game? Videogame
I played an FMV adventure videogame in the late 90s or early 21st century. You played a cop of some sort, I think, and there were werewolves. The cop might have been a werewolf himself, I don't know.
Does anyone recognise this?
Edit: Sorry, I thought I **was** asking this on You know that show. Cheers.
Edited by BreehcNicdollopenJust writer bias or...? Videogame
The user with the name of 2HeadedMoonOctopus(I can't seem to get the wiki word thing to work for their name.) has given a lot of edits. Yet, this might sound harsh....most of their edits don't seem to add anything other than trying to change the wording of other people's entries to fit their own bias while providing little actual information, or just changing the wording of already correct and readable statements. To their credit, this has lessened a bit recently.
Am I misunderstanding something of how the YMMV pages are supposed to be handled? Even so, I assume the editors themselves are expected to at least try to separate personal opinion from actual fact? This isn't intended for a flame war or chewing anyone out. It's just a honest question.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/PokemonLegendsArceus
Mainly, I'm referring to a lot of their edits on the Legends of Arceus page.
Edited by AuraicideopenRE: Priest Simulator Videogame
Why was my page flagged and deleted for lacking tropes after I did edit the page to insert three tropes?
openHow to fix miscapitalized namespaces Videogame
So I noticed that Need for Speed has a Tear Jerker page, but the namespace is written Tearjerker.Need For Speed, and according to Administrivia.Namespace, it should be written TearJerker/. I remembered that we used to have a system of storing the content of a page on a Sandbox and then ask for the page to be cut so that it could be recreated with the properly capitalized namespace, but going over to the Sandbox I found out that the sandbox itself was cut, with the reason being "method seems to have been discontinued". I was wondering if I could be directed to what the current method is.
Edited by JamesAustinopen[Resolved] too many mechanics in the work description Videogame
Rebel Inc. contains "detailed explanation of the gameplay" in the description and even has it folderized. Isn't that Walkthrough Mode? Its prequel didn't need it.
Edited by AmonimusopenMisuse on LethalJokeCharacter page Videogame
I saw a recent query about an edit on Lethal Joke Character, so I checked out the page to see what it was about.
I found that
- The trope description clearly says that this is a video game trope, and lists a number of related tropes that would apply to non-game contexts.
- Despite this, the example list has a entire section for "non-gaming examples", which is apparently large enough to be sub-divided into folders.
- One of the non-gaming folders is "real life". How can there be joke characters in real life?
This is of course rampant, systematized misuse, but what should we do about it? Does this warrant taking the trope to TRS (with the possibility of broadening the trope), or would a cleanup suffice? Unfortunately, I'm very pressed for time myself right now or I would already have started cleaning up, but I thought I'd at least report it.
Edited by GnomeTitanopenThe Origami king trope Videogame
This was deleted back in November from Videogame.Paper Mario The Origami King:
- Darker and Edgier: Compared to Sticker Star and Color Splash, which were Lighter and Softer and seemed to fall back on the standard Mario formula (i.e. both of them caused by Bowser's doing, and Kersti and Huey being poor successors to those like Goombella, Prof. Colorado, Vivian, or Tippi, or hell, any of the other two teams) The Origami King seems to hearken back to Super Paper Mario in terms of dark tone and epic-scale story, as well as Mario's main partner having a personal connection to the main antagonist. Olly is a tyrant whose end-goal of making a wish to wipe every single Toad out of existence clearly puts him on the line of the end-goals of Count Bleck before his redemption, Dimentio, or the Shadow Queen, and it's also the first Paper Mario game with permanent onscreen deaths for heroic characters.
It was deleted by Mcmadness with this edit reason: "It's full of opinions that are debetable and the bias of the writer is obvious."
I feel like the entry explains its reasoning quite well. I want to add it back, am I okay to?
Edited by jjjj2open [Resolved] phantom indexing Videogame
[e: After an hour of waiting seems to be cleared up]
I've been trying to fix Characters.Cyberpunk 2077 subpages indexing the parent page and other subpages, but after removing the index markup from subpages and blank-refreshing twice, I still see the indexes at the bottom. Incidentally, the site has been kinda slow for the past 5 minutes, so maybe there's some interference tech-side. Noting here in case people would want to take a look, may move to Query Bugs later if it persists.
Edited by AmonimusopenEdit War on YMMV/PokemonLegendsArceus Videogame
On January 29, The Jayman 49 added an item for Surprisingly Improved Sequel to Pokémon Legends: Arceus. Today, Ferot_Dreadnaught moved it to Even Better Sequel. Later on today, Jayman moved it back, claiming it fits there instead because of heavy criticism from some circles of the previous entries. Personally, I agree with Ferot, as the harshest criticisms were mostly just a Vocal Minority, but then, that's besides the point.
openRealLifeWritesThePlot Example? Videogame
So an entry under Real Life Writes the Plot in Trivia.Love Live School Idol Festival All Stars reads as such:
- Tomori Kusunoki was noticeably absent from various shows and minor performances throughout 2020 and 2021 due to being diagnosed with a medical condition that impacted her physical and mental health. In many cases performances where she would normally be present used her pre-recorded voice as a substitute.
As I understand, this isn't an example of Real Life Writes the Plot as this doesn't affect the fictional story... but Main.Real Life Writes The Plot also has the Fake Shemp entry written as:
- Fake Shemp: The actor is unavailable, but the studio utilizes archived footage, archived audio and/or body doubles to simulate the actor's presence.
The wording here makes the above example count. So should it count or not?
openName for a videogame series Videogame
I want to create a page for The Legend of Sword and Fairy Chinese RPG series, but I'm unsure how I should name it, because there are several names for the franchise. The Legend... appears to be the original Chinese name, but on Steam these games, both translated and not, are called just Sword and Fairy. There's also three TV series, that share names with games in the original, but are usually called Chinese Paladin. "Chinese Paladin" is also used on Steam as a supertitle for the 6th and the remake of the 1st game. The most recent game, Sword and Fairy 7, doesn't have it, though.
Also, just to be sure, the series doesn't warrant Franchise namespace, right? There seem to be some books, stageplays and even a CCG , but it's unlikely that anyone will write anything on them any time soon.
Edited by VeriamoopenPage removed Videogame
My page about a sub-genre of RP Gs was removed. Just wanted to know why.
Edited by querempazopenAssistance in resolving/preventing an edit war on Creator/QuintonFlynn Videogame
Bringing this here since the page's discussion forum doesn't get a lot of traffic.
To provide a bit of context, back in November 2020 images and audio of Voice Actor Quinton Flynn sexually harassing female fans surfaced on social media followed up by multiple accusations from many other women. This led to Flynn losing upcoming roles as documented on the Role Ending Misdemeanor Video Games page. Six months Flynn had sued one of his accusing for stalking him and got a court victory over her, then claimed on Twitter that a judge had found him not guilty of the accusations. This is pretty blatantly a lie; as the plaintiff his guilt or innocence was never under any consideration, he was only suing one woman for stalking him, she defended herself which is a good sign she didn't receive the best legal council, and her being guilty of stalking him does not mean he can't be guilty of harassing her. However some of his fans have taken this as proof that all accusations against him are false and he is 100% innocent since she had to delete her tweets on the matter. So Flynn portraying the decision as him being found not guilty is dishonest and a bit suspect.
Now onto the actual matter; over on his creator page when the judge's decision was brought down Captain Tedium deleted the section on the accusations on April 22 2021 with the following edit reason:
"The sexual allegations have recently been debunked. https://mobile.twitter.com/JasmineDBZking/status/1384605216650059780 Reinstate the detail of what happened in November 2020 only if the proof of Quinton Flynn's innocence is itself debunked. Or if this incident has ended up affecting his career anyway."
On July 4th The Extractor added in a modified entry with the accusations, court victory and the loss of roles with the following edit reasons
"A statement that he alone released, that no one else corroborated, that still contradicts a shitload of visual and audio evidence doesn't remotely absolve him of anything. It also doesn't change the fact that he's effectively been fired from everything and is yet to be re-hired on anything. I'll amend this part so it's more objective and less "hostile", but it stays."
On the 20th I amended the entry to remove the reference to the court case as I felt the way it was written would lead someone to an incorrect assumption of what happened and that to properly explain and provide context would take up a lot of words that in my opinion was largely irrelevant to the point.
There were no further edits to the page until November 6th when Tropers/shaynaynaynot edited the page to add "In April 2021, Flynn tweeted that the accusations came from a stalker, and he was found not guilty." They also added the same to the REM subpage.
Now what's been added is objectively false (as the plaintiff it is quite literally impossible for him to be found not guilty), but given as this could be described as either the first, second or fourth edit on the matter depending on your definition I'm concerned that reverting it would be considered an edit war, and given that only four of us have been involved in editing there is little hope of getting a consensus. So I'm seeking further input from people who haven't been involved so far.
In the video "Jackal" on Villainous Harlequin for NiGHTS into Dreams…, both the title and the description mispelled the character's name. It's actually "Jackle." Can someone please fix this?