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openSomeone deleted my edit, but I don't agree.
On Quotes.Abuse Mistake, I added the quote from a TheOdd1sOut video about his book. The quote entailed a book a child James wrote titled I Do Not Like This Family, which he thinks might have made the teacher think he was abused, when actually he had a great childhood but just hated chores.
A user named animuacid removed it, however, with the edit reason "This quote doesn't meet the new definition of innocent things mistaken as abuse." But I think it does — he gave the book that title for a mundane reason, but the teacher may have mistaken it for abuse.
openCut YMMV page for the Bluffers? Western Animation
The tropes page for The Bluffers used to have a YMMV page, but it's been cut, with the reason given being only "Sonic satam fan myopia". Can anyone tell me why the page was cut, and if maybe it should be brought back?
openDeleting excess character pages Web Original
How do you deal with character pages that are bare bones apart from an image or Zero-Context Examples? Is it okay to get rid of them if they aren't fleshed out, or do you have to get approval?
I’ve brought the page I want to deal with (the overloaded Planet Dolan page) to the Character Page Cleanup thread, but I don’t know where else to go from there.
resolved Dune Headscratchers
Is there any particular reason that Dune: Part Two 's headscratchers page is merged with Dune (2021) 's? Every other moment page (bar characters which is fair enough) seems to be separate for each film.
Edited by dcutter2resolved Do animal actors count for The Other Darrin?
I was going to add on the "Dog with a blog" trivia page that Stan's original actor, Kuma, was replaced by the fifth episode onwards with Mick, but I wasn't sure if it really counted for "The Other Darrin", since I didn't see any for animal actors.
openWhat is the archive namespace for?
I stumbled upon Warhammer 40,000 and saw... well.. something that looked like it belonged on 1d4chan. It's certainly not a TV Tropes article, so I was wondering.. what the heck is the archive namespace used for?
openFixing a Less Accurate Edit
Hello! I recognize that this is going to sound really petty, but I wanted to ask about it anyway.
A while back, someone edited an Agony of the Feet entry in The White Vault from:
- Agony of the Feet: Near the end of season 3, Simon is pushed over by Lucas and impales his ankle on a guanaco bone. Eva pulls out the bone and is able to perform some degree of first aid, but shortly afterwards, he is trapped alone in the antechamber cave for about a week. By the time he is rescued and brought back to where he can receive medical help, the wound has become so infected that his foot has to be amputated.
to:
- Agony of the Feet: Near the end of season 3, Simon is pushed over by Lucas and impales his ankle on a large bone. Eva pulls out the bone and is able to perform some degree of first aid, but shortly afterwards, he is trapped alone in the antechamber cave for about a week. By the time he is rescued and brought back to where he can receive medical help, the wound has become so infected that his foot has to be amputated.
Not only does this edit remove information (the type of bone that caused the injury, stated in the podcast), but it adds inaccurate information (the bone is never referred to as large, only that there's a larger part of it and some shards). However, I made the initial edit, so I can't fix it without it being an edit war unless I get consensus from y'all.
Edited by AfterwordopenWhere do you add secondary tropes to videos?
I was just wondering. I wanted to add a secondary trope to my new video I uploaded to the community. Does anybody know where to add them?
resolved Mentioning fan speculation Videogame
Context: Shin Megami Tensei V`s Updated Re-release, Vengeance, was originally planned to release on June 21, 2024 before being moved up to June 14. This lead to people speculating that it was intentionally moved as to avoid competing with Elden Ring`s highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC.
With that in mind, SMTV's Trivia page mentions this speculation twice (along the line of "leading fans to speculate"). I'm not sure this is allowed, but I want to make sure.
Here are the entries in question:
- Dueling Games: Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance was originally to be released on the same day as Elden Ring's highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC expansion. When Atlus announced that Vengeance would release a week earlier, people speculated that Atlus wanted to avoid this.
- Release Date Change: Vengeance was meant to be released Worldwide on June 21st of 2024, but nearly a month after its announcement, Atlus announced that it would release a week earlier, with fans speculating that this was to avoid competition from Elden Ring's expansion.
openUnhiding zero context example without edit reason or adding to them
Xvrprkm unhid this Zero Context example on YMMV.Kickin It without adding anything to it or an edit reason:
- Crazy Is Cool: How to describe Bobby Wasabi? Ninja security, disco bathroom, sausage toss...
Am I good to re-hide it and send them a notifier?
Edited by BullmanopenAlienating Premise or Hate Tingle?
Under AudienceAlienatingPremise.Anime And Manga, there are examples that have been contested as they were successful in their home country, but faired poorly/were not exported abroad. Are those Americans Hate Tingle instead if it didn't alienate in its home/target country?
AAP cleanup has argued both ways and has moved on, so I'm asking here.
Edited by Ferot_DreadnaughtopenRedirect policy
I wanted to check in for confirmation of a specific bit of redirect policy:
It is my understanding that, in situations where the following things are true:
- A work page exists for a series with multiple distinct installments (that is, books, movies, comics runs, etc.),
- Those individual works do not have individual pages, and
- Those works do have redirects leading to the main work/series page,
Then using those redirects in examples on trope pages is actively preferred, under the reasoning that we would eventually want to have pages for those distinct sub-works, and creating and spreading the redirects early saves a lot of time and error that would go into a mass-rewicking project later.
Is that correct? Because I've been operating under the assumption that it is, but I realized now that I could not find an Administrivia page discussing this situation (the main redirect-centered one is Creating New Redirects, which is focused on when to make new redirects and doesn't much talk about their use once they exist.)
resolved Guilt-Based Gaming but not really
was reading the page in question when i came across these examples, under the "guilt-based idling" folder:
- In Sonic the Hedgehog 2, after going through the toe-tapping animation four times, Sonic would eventually lie down, looking at the player with a very bored expression. In Sonic 2 and Sonic 3, Tails yawns, and in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Knuckles does some shadow-boxing.
- In most of the 3D Sonic games, idling for a long period of time will result in the characters talking to themselves or, in the case of Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog, each other. This is normally more of an Easter Egg than anything, but in Shadow, a few of the things they say when you do this are heartbreaking. Especially painful is Charmy Bee's comment about wanting to go home and watch cartoons in Shadow's Prison Island... an innocuous line, until you consider that the planet is being invaded by aliens, who are shooting at 6-year-old Charmy as he looks for disks on an abandoned military base alone on the orders of the closest thing to parents he has, and the only one protecting Charmy is Anti-Hero Shadow.
- In Sonic's appearance in LEGO Dimensions, after tapping his foot for a few moments, Sonic will recline on the ground ala Sonic 2. After a few moments more, he will fall asleep and dream of running.
thing is, these aren't actually guilting the player for idling. these are just standard idle animations tacked on to the Sonic example tree (since the examples above it are actual examples of Sonic games nagging or otherwise penalizing the player for idling). permission to cut these, or at least move to the proper Idle Animation page?
openAdvertising/FlagsForGood seems like it’s just advertising for that brand
This page is under Advertising but isn’t about any of their ads and all about their products. Is that not against the rules?
openSequel Consensus Disagreement
YMMV.F Zero GX got an edit that removed Contested Sequel and added Even Better Sequel with a comment: "This is, at least from my experience, untrue. The vast majority of F-Zero fans consider GX to be the best game in the series. A lot of these criticisms feel overrepresented."
I've gathered and laid down other people's various opinions on "F-Zero X vs F-Zero GX" from past 5 years on internet, both professionals and fans. Complaints over F-Zero GX are something that consistently exists, so I must say this change does not reflect the general fan reaction. What to do with this?
Edited by SpaceKABOOMresolved Misindentation
Spanks has a lifelong problem regarding example indentation. Yesterday I sent them a notifier for adding a lone third-bullet entry here on YMMV.Super Mario Bros (namely under an example of Friendly Rivalry), being also my 15th notifier sent to them (I want to clarify that not all notifiers were due to improper indentation, but it has been an ongoing problem).
Today, sadly, here on Franchise.Super Mario Bros they added another lone sub-bullet entry under an example of Geodesic Cast.
At this point, I'm at a loss. I haven't sent any notifiers this time because I don't think they'll pay attention to it if they didn't to any of the previous ones.
opennew here and a little nervous about editing... Web Original
Hi! Long time lurker but I just got an account, and honestly a large part of the reason I did was because I was really bothered by some aspects of the Inanimate Insanity page and wanted to fix them—namely, a lot of the ways Cabby is described. If you're familiar with the show, you're probably aware that toward the beginning of the season she's introduced many fans saw her in a manipulative light, but as her story progressed things have come to light about her that make her more sympathetic. Problem is, it seems much of her character page, as well as other places she's mentioned, haven't been updated since, and while it would have been understandable back then, now it just seems in poor taste to call her manipulative. However, there would have to be some pretty drastic upheaval (just look at her character page! it's so negative!) and I'm worried my own biases in the other direction would show through.
(Also, I know it's silly since the point is for these pages to be accurate and up to date, but I feel a little bad tearing someone's hard work making that page to shreds.)
Would any more experienced tropers be willing to help me out in updating it?
Edited by clonnieclooresolvedExtreme case of AutoEroticTroping
As the title says, the author of the fanfic Pokemon Wars Of The Dark The Merger Magikoopa, not only created the page of the fanfic and is its main contributor, it's also the creator and main contributor of subjective pages like YMMV, Heartwarming Moments, Fridge Brilliance, and weirdly enough, Headscratchers.
The troper making all these edits has the exact same name as the author of the fanfic, so this is a no brainer.
Hello! I am completely new to trying my own hand at adding to Trope and Fandom pages and wanted to ask, i have come across several instances of a Trope being linked on a fandom page, but not no link to the fandom exists on the page of the trope?
Like, for example, in the character section for The Magnus Protocol there is a character who is stated to fit the trope called "Parents as People" but the character is not listed on the Trope page for"Parents as People" and i wanted to ask if tgats intentional?
Does that mean that this character or Fandom does somehow not "count" as an occurrence of the Trope?
Or can i just add it to the Trope page in the same way that the others are?
Or am is that against the rules?
(Please dont yell at me over this, i am Very new to this and would never edit something like that without being completely sure its allowed)
Thanks in advance for your replies!
- Storyweaver
Edited by Storyweaver