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This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.

Write down what you wish to edit on the wiki. If you have been suspended from editing, another troper might be kind enough to edit for you after your suggestions have been corrected.

The thread is for help and feedback on your own suggested edits.

If you want help correcting other people's edits (e.g., if you find a page which seems to have grammar problems but want a second opinion, or you don't feel able to fix it by yourself) then that's off-topic here, but we have a separate Grammar Police cleanup thread that can provide assistance.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM

Kingofsouls Kingofsouls from EVERYWHERE Since: Jun, 2010
Kingofsouls
#2026: Apr 14th 2015 at 8:21:07 AM

Hey guys. Can someone Ashes Of The Past page for me?

edited 14th Apr '15 11:02:04 AM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination
JLink0 Since: Jun, 2012
#2027: Apr 15th 2015 at 9:57:43 PM

I would like to make an edit to the Zelda Wii U YMMV page under either the current Broken Base or under a newly added Base Beaker section.

  • The fact that this Link is once again right handed like in Skyward Sword is a point a of dispute amongst some long time fans and some left-handed gamers.

Kingofsouls Kingofsouls from EVERYWHERE Since: Jun, 2010
Kingofsouls
#2028: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:13:10 PM

First question: Has my grammar improved enough?

Second question: I would like this added to the Sly Cooper section of The Infinite Loops

—>Penellope (Narrating): Ok… so I'm back on the bridge, and dear lord this Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann is ridiculous! Seriously, every point in time and space at once? How are we not in Eiken?

And this for the Nickelodeon section.

  • Puff of Logic: Squidward asks Spongebob and Patrick how a sponge and a starfish could talk, in an attempt to Puff of Logic them out of existence. It backfires when they think on it and then ask Squidward the same question, which causes Squidward to think on it, and thus poofs him out of existence and crashes the loop.

edited 16th Apr '15 8:36:07 AM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination
lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2029: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:18:20 AM

J Link 0, make a link to the page you want to put it on and write it with the trope name in front like you would write an example like the other posts here. is a point of dispute not a point a of dispute.

JLink0 Since: Jun, 2012
#2030: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:29:59 AM

I would like to make an edit to the [[Legend of Zelda Wii U YMMV]] page

  • Base Breaker:The fact that this Link is once again right handed like in Skyward Sword is a point of dispute amongst some long time fans and some left-handed gamers.

Is that good I don't know exactly how linking a page works here.

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
JLink0 Since: Jun, 2012
#2032: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:37:00 AM

I would like to make an edit to the YMMV.The Legendof Zelda Wii U page

  • Base Breaker:The fact that this Link is once again right handed like in Skyward Sword is a point of dispute amongst some long time fans and some left-handed gamers.

If this is right then thanks Valozzy if not do I need to add spaces between the words.

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#2033: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:47:50 AM

Capitalizing the "O" in "Of" will fix the Camel Casing of the words. That is correct though.

However, looking into the tropes, you seemed to have confused Base Breaker with Broken Base. That is understandable, as they are similarly named.

I would like to help with your actual grammatical errors, but I do not know the correct terms used to help teach you about your errors.

edited 16th Apr '15 10:48:17 AM by valozzy

JLink0 Since: Jun, 2012
#2034: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:51:08 AM

I would like to make an edit to the YMMV.The Legendof Zelda Wii U page

  • Broken Base:The fact that this Link is once again right handed like in Skyward Sword is a point Of dispute amongst some long time fans and some left-handed gamers.

Is it that "of" that needed to be capitalized. Also just show me where to put what is good enough for me.

valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#2035: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:52:27 AM

Ah, I meant the "of" in YMMV.The Legend Of Zelda Wii U. Apologies for the confusion.

edited 16th Apr '15 10:53:00 AM by valozzy

JLink0 Since: Jun, 2012
#2036: Apr 16th 2015 at 10:59:23 AM

I would like to make an edit to the YMMV.The Legend Of Zelda Wii U page

  • Broken Base:The fact that this Link is once again right handed like in Skyward Sword is a point of dispute amongst some long time fans and some left-handed gamers.

Not a problem my friend.

PurpleandRed Since: Jan, 2015
#2037: Apr 18th 2015 at 2:25:27 AM

Someone deleted my trooe because it had problems with English grammar in the Boxtrolls page.

  • Break the Cutie: Eggs, who has been getting the most amount of vicious deeds from Snatcher.

edited 18th Apr '15 2:26:32 AM by PurpleandRed

Terrie Since: Apr, 2011
#2038: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:09:30 AM

You have some issues still. It should read

The fact that this Link is once again right-handed, like in Skyward Sword, is a point of dispute among some longtime fans and some left-handed gamers.

"Amongst" is not really used in Modern English. It went out with thee and thou. It's either "longtime" or "long-time." One word, not two. You hyphenated "left-handed" correctly, but not "right-handed." And "like in Skyward Sword" is best set off by commas.

edited 18th Apr '15 9:10:19 AM by Terrie

My alignment is Chaotic Cute.
lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2039: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:42:12 AM

Purpleand Red, that doesn't sounds like a complete sentence and it doesn't say how the cutie has been broken. It's a trope, not trooe.

JLink0 Since: Jun, 2012
#2040: Apr 18th 2015 at 12:51:24 PM

Thanks Terrie

I would like to make an edit to the YMMV.The Legend Of Zelda Wii U page

  • Broken Base:The fact that this Link is once again right-handed like in Skyward Sword is a point of dispute among some longtime fans and some left-handed gamers.

Terrie Since: Apr, 2011
#2041: Apr 19th 2015 at 10:17:10 AM

[up]Is there a reason you removed the commas?

My alignment is Chaotic Cute.
Kingofsouls Kingofsouls from EVERYWHERE Since: Jun, 2010
Kingofsouls
#2042: Apr 20th 2015 at 11:57:35 PM

So, I'm wondering if my grammar has improved enough to get my ban lifted. In the meantime, can someone please add these to Character.Sentinels Of The Multiverse?

Omnitron-X

  • Counter-Attack: If Omnitron-X gets hit by a damage type he's reducing due to a Plating card with Reactive Plating Subroutine out Omnitron-X counterattacks using the same type of damage against his attacker.
  • Damage Reduction: Omnitron-X has several varieties of Platings in his deck. Each Plating reduces damage of specific types of damage, and he can only have one of any Plate in play at a time.
  • Elemental Powers
  • Evil Counterpart: Inverted. Omnitron came first, so technically Omnitron-X is a heroic counterpart. To push the similarities further, Omnitron-X has reworked versions of Omnitron's deck:
    • Adaptive Plating Subroutine → Reactive Plating Subroutine
    • Terraforming → Bio-Engineering Beam
    • Sedative Flechettes → Disruptive Flechettes
  • Expy: Omnitron-X shares a few similarities with Brainiac-5, as they are both robots from the future whom wish to right the wrongs of their predecessors.
    • He also shares a few features with Mega Man X. Both are blue robots whom change colors based on the weapon they are using at the time.
    • In terms of card mechanics, Omnitron-X is an expy of himself, as a fair number of his cards are variations of evil Omnitron's cards.

edited 21st Apr '15 11:03:43 AM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination
starkitty93 from Texas Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2043: Apr 24th 2015 at 11:47:43 AM

Light Feminine Dark Feminine under Western Animation

  • Teen Titans gives us Starfire and her sister Blackfire. Starfire is sweet, gentle, and outgoing while Blackfire is manipulative, aloof, and vindictive. Stylistically, they fit this as well; Starfire has bright red hair and Tareme Eyes while Blackfire has black bluish hair and Tsurime Eyes.

edited 24th Apr '15 11:51:53 AM by starkitty93

Just another animation junkie
lexicon Since: May, 2012
Kingofsouls Kingofsouls from EVERYWHERE Since: Jun, 2010
Kingofsouls
#2045: Apr 26th 2015 at 12:11:06 AM

Light Feminine Dark Feminine wasn't me. That's the one two posts above this one.

I am a figment of your imagination
ConservativePip Since: Feb, 2015
#2046: Apr 26th 2015 at 1:56:02 PM

for Western Animation I think the MLP episode Tanks for the Memories should be listed as Rainbow Dash (who along with the mane 6 saved Equestria more than once) breaks the weather factory in Cloudsdale.

edited 26th Apr '15 1:57:08 PM by ConservativePip

Kingofsouls Kingofsouls from EVERYWHERE Since: Jun, 2010
Kingofsouls
#2047: Apr 26th 2015 at 5:28:23 PM

@ Conservative Pip: For what? You're kinda vuage on what you want to do there.

edited 26th Apr '15 5:28:59 PM by Kingofsouls

I am a figment of your imagination
amam0t0 from philadelphia pa Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#2048: Apr 29th 2015 at 5:40:43 PM

If someone could help me with a page edit that would be a great help.

I am currently under a suspension/ban on editing since nov 23rd of last year as Fighteer was so generous to point out "The whole page, every last bit of it that you wrote, had to be scrapped and written over from scratch." on the complete page I attempted to add which was https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/AwesomeMusic/ZyudenSentaiKyoryuger

as Septimus Heap suggested I am posting proposals for page edits to prove my willingness to improve and hopefully regain editing rights.

here is the first one for the page https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/HappinessChargePrettyCure for Pretty Cure Hunter, "Phantom"/ Phan-Phan's entry

Hunter of his partner's kind : As Phantom was originally Phan Phan Before Cure / Queen Mirage was corrupted by Red, this clearly counts before his Heel–Face Turn for his Mistress' sake.

edited 29th Apr '15 5:51:30 PM by amam0t0

There is no truer equality in this world than the sudden and inescapable finality of the grave
amam0t0 from philadelphia pa Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#2049: Apr 29th 2015 at 5:48:04 PM

here is the second one (fair warning it's long as it was the basis for a whole page):

proposed page https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/YuGiOhGX-YearByYear :

->''"Amor vincit omnia(Love conquers all) In the end, all they have is each other; they may be broken and scarred, but there's a shoulder to lean on and a hand to hold and somehow, it's enough."''

->''"Ua mau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono (The life of the land is established in righteousness) ...The curse still lives, even to this day, and until the rightful King is returned to his throne, the world must remain in shadow, so mote it be."''

Ottilia Shanner (Lia after insistence) was a typical 14 year old attempting to get into a good private school. After an interview with the owner of the school and a bout of precociousness that impressed him she found herself whisked away to a boarding school in the south pacific where on her first day she meets a classmate who pisses her off by interrupting her. Her attempts to get back at him mark the starting point of this long story.

Now you might wonder why you should be interested in this and what it might have to do with yu-gi-oh: well the person Lia met was Seto Kaiba, the school she's attending is Duel Academy, and the person who pushes her Beserk Button - Jaden Yuki.

Yu-Gi-Oh GX Year by Year (called the Yearverse by the authoress) is a series of fanfics that are penned by Mistress of Sarcasm that started out as a bet that a decent GX fanfic couldn't be written using the dub names, it has since risen to an epic spanning no less than three instances of The End of the World as We Know It (2 already dealt with and at least one more on the way) major Character Development for a lot of the main cast and an complete inversion of the Mary Sue trope for author created character in Lia (a girl with a sharp tongue and an even sharper aim with heavy projectiles).

Consists of 3 separate stories so far:

A second part for year three has already been confirmed and if author's notes from chapters in year one are to be believed a year four might be possible for presentation (Mo S has already confirmed that she has an interest on including [[Yu-Gi-Oh 5 Ds 5D's]] in the combined universe she's adapting – no word on ZeXaL as of yet though).

The premise is simple: the Japanese national board of education citing that Duel Academy does not offer a practical high school education attempts to shut it down. Kaiba in typical Magnificent Bastard fashion opens an academic program to students who could meet his rigid requirements while keeping his duelist students left alone (unless they were interested in those academic courses). This leads Lia into a rather unflattering meeting with Jaden who mixed up world history class with duel history class and simply builds from there.

Lia being vindictive actively forces Jaden to pay attention in class as a punishment for setting her off and the fic simply goes on to show the reactions and consequences of her interactions with him, Alexis, Bastien, Chumley, Syrus, and even Chazz.

Year by Year treats the characters like actual teenagers (something that could be argued did not happen at all in the GX dub's writing and only partially in the original Japanese version) and gives Character Development early to the Five-Man Band through Lia's interest in torturing/improving Jaden's less than stellar classroom performance.

Needless to say It Got Better and especially IT GOT WORSE are in full effect here.

The fanfics have a small but loyal fanbase and the combined 654,031 and counting words of all three stories as of Year 3 Part 1 puts it on the high end of Yu-Gi-Oh Gx fanfic epics although there are two that sport larger content the duelist of dawn's Duel Academy Stories and anime master 0's Yu Gi Oh G Next.

But by all means don't let that discourage you from actually reading it...


This fic contains examples of the following tropes, in addition to those already present in the source material:

Absurdly High-Stakes Game: Most of the important duels qualify as this. Lia actually puts it best at the start of Year 2. —>Lia: Oh yeah. If any of your classmates, teachers, or random people you see hanging around the school – we get a lot of those, so don't freak out about strangers and candy, 'kay kids? – look like they might burst into maniacal laughter at any given moment, please come and tell us. That's usually a sign of an evil megalomaniac bent on either world domination or total world destruction, sometimes both if they're a particularly creative villian, and we'd really like to nip this thing in the bud before it gets out of hand. After all, Jaden can only duel so many psychos at once. Acceptable Breaks from Reality: The cannon world has hard light complex and moving holograms, card games deciding the fate of the world on a regular basis, and just Vellian Crowler in general. If this trope isn't in effect, the entire world is on some serious “supplements”. —>Lia at Year 2: Do I need to point out the deciduous trees again? Trust me, there are tigers. There might even lions. Who knows? There could be a friggin' bear out there, and if you so much as think about making a Wizard of Oz joke, this microphone is going upside your head, kid. Acceptable Breaks from Canon: there are some alternative takes on certain events and their consequences due to the academic program (the abandoned dorm incident being one of them) that Mo S does go into as her yarn is told Adults Are Useless: Duel Academy's staff. I mean who normally in their right mind gives the majority of the sealing keys of three very evil Eldritch Abomination soul stealing or worse soul consuming monsters to teenagers? Or better yet who sits by and lets an apocalyptic brain washing cult take over most of the school without much of a fuss? Alternative Character Interpretation: Adrian, Atticus, Viper, Brier and Beauregard, Axel, Dr. Stein, Chazz, Jaden, we really could go on and on as to how many of GX's cast get this trope applied to them. Backstory: More than a little of the history of the main cast has backstory expansion including connections between Jaden and Hasslberry, more about Aster's family and some about Chumley's family in year one which involves Cannon Welding for both the Japanese and English dubbed versions. Blood Fromthe Mouth: Lia whenever Jaden has to call on his Superpowered Evil Side, has happened no fewer than 5 times so far Breakingthe Fourth Wall: The author's notes usually do this constantly, frequent guests include Jaden, Syrus, Alexis, Jesse, Axel, Aster, Adrian, and Yubel as of recent chapters. Aday In The Lime Light: A lot of the character in the Year by Year series get chapters that go into the inner workings of how they react to the insanity that is going on. Despair Event Horizon: The duel with the Sacred Beasts in Year one. The rise of the Society of Light and Saritorious' duel in Year two. One shudder's to think with the cannon ones that happen in Year three how, many will actually be present in Mo S' adaptation. Dracoin Leather Pants: Depending on your opinion of Chazz in either version of the anime you might assume this trope is played straight. At best due to logical events and character development this trope is merely played with. Earn Your Happy Ending: Make no bones about it Mo S puts the people she writes about through increasing amounts of hell to get their education at duel academy. Year three in her own words will be the worst yet Gratuitous Japanese: Some here and there from Jaden who is depicted as Japanese in this fic. Gratuitous French: Multitudes from Lia with author notes offering translations for the Green-Eyed Monster: Dear GOD Yubel. —>Yubel: And then, once I've played with everyone and there's no one left to get between us, I'll finally have Jaden.

Man of Wealth and Taste: How the Light of Destruction alters Chazz for its plans. He goes from a some what lovable jerkass to a silver tongued gentleman that lets your guard down for the brainwashing to begin. Most Fanfic Writers Are Fans and Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls: Mo S is a fan of GX and has made no attempt at hiding her gender. Never Say"Die": Averted hard as Atticus clearly states that a non duelist that is on the wrong end of the shadows just gets eaten alive (while he's trying to get Lia out of the general area of the Sacred Beasts) Original Character: Lia obviously. Ooh, Me Accent's Slipping: Lia for most of the time speaks with what might be considered no discernible accent but will slip into a heavy French accent if she finds herself stressed The Stationsofthe Canon: Played with as certain events have to happen in the continuity but how those events come about and the heroes' reactions to them are decidedly different, but taking things like introducing Jesse at the school duel between Jaden and Chazz also show things as later seasons made things out to be.

Any help with any grammar mistakes will be appreciated. Thank you.

There is no truer equality in this world than the sudden and inescapable finality of the grave
lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2050: Apr 29th 2015 at 7:41:42 PM

Please start with short edits.

In regards to: Hunter of his partner's kind : As Phantom was originally Phan Phan Before Cure / Queen Mirage was corrupted by Red, this clearly counts before his Heel-Face Turn for his Mistress' sake.

Do Not Pothole the Trope Name as per How to Write an Example. The example doesn't tell me what his own kind is (a Phan Phan?) or how he's hunting it.


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