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has crowner
It's an index now indeed, but it would do so much better as a trope.
927 SeptimusHeap29th Aug 2012 03:49:34 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
It is an index as for now. It's getting example subpages, but it still doesn't fit YMMV.

Most importantly, what is subjective about Inaccuracies Index?
928 Fighteer29th Aug 2012 04:37:56 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
For one thing, DNDTR was getting used as a dumping ground for every little minor nitpick anyone had about a work, regardless of the justification.
...That doesn't seem subjective at all.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
I'm an Irene!
...It's not honestly subjective.

They either got it right or they didn't.

Now, tiny things may not be worth saying, as noted earlier.

But big things can only be one. There is no subjectivity beyond "is it worth mentioning?", and most tropes have that anyway. Which is also not related at all to whether the trope is subjective or not.
931 lu1271st Sep 2012 02:05:37 AM from the Forest of Thorns , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Moved to Special Efforts.
小さく揺れた向日葵
In uffish thought
Thanks. Given that it's already linked from the directory thread here, could it be unstickied?
933 Twentington14th Sep 2012 01:58:00 PM from Somewhere , Relationship Status: Desperate
Mustelidae = awesome
It seems odd to me that Network Decay is not YMMV, but Magazine Decay is. "Network Decay" seems fairly objective, since "Network that used to specialize in [type of program] now has [different type of programs]" is pretty cut and dried. Wouldn't the same be true of Magazine Decay?

edited 14th Sep '12 1:59:50 PM by Twentington

Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?

934 DragonQuestZ29th Sep 2012 12:47:05 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to bring this up, so please link to an appropriate one if this isn't it.

I noted that a not on the Audience Reactions pages states that being In-Universe Examples Only doesn't make something objective (as in it can be still ymmv).

The problem is that the point of In-Universe Examples Only is to make a trope objective, by only allowing things that objectively happen in a show. Thus all such tropes are character reactions, in the sense of wicks and examples allowed.

Again, if this isn't the right thread, just let me know if the right one.

edited 29th Sep '12 12:47:43 PM by DragonQuestZ

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
935 SeptimusHeap29th Sep 2012 02:37:25 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I think I played a role in that "note". The issue is that it's often controversial whether a In-Universe example limitation applies to wicks in the first place (never mind whether i gets enforced on wicks at all even if it applies), so listing on In-Universe Examples Only just means that the main page and possibly the wicks should be In-Universe only, but with no accounting for the actual status of the wicks. If these are still used as YMMV, the article needs to stay on the YMMV and AR indexes.
936 DragonQuestZ29th Sep 2012 07:57:03 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
[up]Well the point of the message is that no future wicks should be out of universe, and if there isn't a cleanup SE thread for existing wicks, there should be.

That's also why I have a thread in Tech Wishlist for a related banner. I'll just have to find it again.

EDIT: This is it.

edited 29th Sep '12 7:58:19 PM by DragonQuestZ

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
BLAM Episode was renamed Bizarro Episode. The former is YMMV (I think? the index isn't on Related To), the latter is not. Permission to add Bizarro Episode to the YMMV index?

Also, does this function like adding to any other index, or is there something special I need to do?

edited 5th Oct '12 8:23:09 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
938 MagBas14th Oct 2012 11:26:46 AM from In my house
Calling Signature Song(12 yes and 6 nays currently)

edited 14th Oct '12 11:27:44 AM by MagBas

939 Fighteer17th Oct 2012 09:26:20 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Did we ever evaluate Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have? Seems to be entirely a fan reaction and is always used as such from what I can see of the examples.
940 SeptimusHeap17th Oct 2012 09:28:19 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Hmm...that sounds almost like Trope Repair Shop job.
Flower Fairy
Does Generic Doomsday Villain need the YMMV tab? On the Trope Talk subforum, we came into agreement that it was a bit of a negative trope.
Please help out our The History Of Video Games page.
942 SeptimusHeap2nd Nov 2012 12:43:43 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I prefer for it to go through the Trope Repair Shop. Many tropes can end up looking subjective due to misuse, and making them subjective just increases the misuse.
Seeking for Light
I think it's time for a new crowner. I've moved over anything which was in the green which didn't yet have ten votes.

Calling:

I added them to the Audience Reactions index.

edited 2nd Nov '12 8:10:01 PM by Nocturna

944 Ironeye3rd Nov 2012 11:04:54 PM from SoCal , Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Crowner switched. All three items in the green at the time of switch are currently on the new crowner.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Flower Fairy
Why doesn't Standardized Leader have the banner? It plainly states on the page description in bold print:

Naturally, this is something of a Subjective Trope.

I think it should have the banner. If there's a reason behind it not being there even though that quote is on the page description, I'm missing it.

edited 13th Nov '12 10:16:03 AM by WaxingName

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946 SeptimusHeap13th Nov 2012 10:18:13 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The rambling description seems to be the actual issue.
Flower Fairy
[up]Is that another thing that should be settled on TRS instead of here?
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948 SeptimusHeap13th Nov 2012 10:56:40 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Problems with a description should be mentioned here first, then in TRS if it's actually a definition issue. If it's a definition issue, it goes to TRS straightaway.
Adding Troperiffic. No clear cut boundary.
950 SeptimusHeap5th Dec 2012 08:19:37 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Not really enough to get it defined as YMMV.

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17th Aug '14 8:08:24 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
YMMV is for items that are reactions of the audience to works and tropes that need a significant judgment call to tell whether they exist objectively or not.

Should these items become members of YMMV?

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