...It's not honestly subjective.
They either got it right or they didn't.
Now, tiny things may not be worth saying, as noted earlier.
But big things can only be one. There is no subjectivity beyond "is it worth mentioning?", and most tropes have that anyway. Which is also not related at all to whether the trope is subjective or not.
It seems odd to me that Network Decay is not YMMV, but Magazine Decay is. "Network Decay" seems fairly objective, since "Network that used to specialize in [type of program] now has [different type of programs]" is pretty cut and dried. Wouldn't the same be true of Magazine Decay?
edited 14th Sep '12 1:59:50 PM by Twentington
Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to bring this up, so please link to an appropriate one if this isn't it.
I noted that a not on the Audience Reactions pages states that being In-Universe Examples Only doesn't make something objective (as in it can be still ymmv).
The problem is that the point of In-Universe Examples Onlyis to make a trope objective, by only allowing things that objectively happen in a show. Thus all such tropes are character reactions, in the sense of wicks and examples allowed.
Again, if this isn't the right thread, just let me know if the right one.
I think I played a role in that "note". The issue is that it's often controversial whether a In-Universe example limitation applies to wicks in the first place (never mind whether i gets enforced on wicks at all even if it applies), so listing on In-Universe Examples Only just means that the main page and possibly the wicks should be In-Universe only, but with no accounting for the actual status of the wicks. If these are still used as YMMV, the article needs to stay on the YMMV and AR indexes.
Well the point of the message is that no future wicks should be out of universe, and if there isn't a cleanup SE thread for existing wicks, there should be.
That's also why I have a thread in Tech Wishlist for a related banner. I'll just have to find it again.
EDIT: This is it.
BLAM Episode was renamed Bizarro Episode. The former is YMMV (I think? the index isn't on Related To), the latter is not. Permission to add Bizarro Episode to the YMMV index?
Also, does this function like adding to any other index, or is there something special I need to do?
edited 5th Oct '12 8:23:09 PM by ArcadesSabboth
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Sturgeon's Tropes: The reasoning to the inclusion of most of the tropes is based in the reaction of the audience- including objective tropes(as Status Quo Is God and Flat Character). Beyond this, if a specific use of a trope was good or bad is subjective.