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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#1: Sep 3rd 2015 at 2:14:34 PM

As I was looking through the subpages of Names The Same, it seems that the pages appear to be quite a mess. Some examples—and to an extent some pages—are unsorted, for starters, making it hard to find certain names, and risking the chance of some examples being repeated. It would be great if they were sorted a little better.

Furthermore, I think creators/series that tend to use this as a trend may need their own pages. Capcom (found in the Video Games subpage) is one example.

Are there any other ways that we can clean up these pages?

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phoenix Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#2: Sep 3rd 2015 at 8:23:23 PM

There aren't any readily apparent standards for how examples are listed. Or how they're written, for that matter.

Some are listed by work, franchise, or creator, with all the characters in a from a given work, franchise, or creator as bullet points. This means there may be duplicate entries (ex. Work A and Work B have a character named Bob. Work A's entry says "Bob shares a name with a character from Work B." Work B's entry says "Bob shares a name with a character from Work A):

Some are listed by the name of the character, with there being examples from the same work in different places:

There's also the problem of which subpage something should be listed on. The Cross-Media page seems to be for when Work A is a video game and Work B is a movie and they both have a character named Bob. This implies that the media-specific subpages should contain only examples where Work A and Work B are both the same type of media. But in practice, many examples seem to be listed either on a media-specific subpage (or even on multiple media subpages) rather than the Cross-Media page.

I would think that this last issue would need to be dealt with before attempting cleanup/alphabetization/reorganization/whatever else of the subpages. Wow, that was long. Thoughts?

edited 3rd Sep '15 8:23:59 PM by phoenix

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#3: Sep 3rd 2015 at 9:17:22 PM

Wait, wait, wait. Names The Same is supposed to be cross-fiction? That seems completely useless, if not an open call to Fan Myopia-type fan-pushing. I thought it was supposed to be within a single work or setting, like the opposite of One-Steve Limit.

edited 3rd Sep '15 9:17:58 PM by nrjxll

phoenix Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#4: Sep 3rd 2015 at 10:06:48 PM

[up] Yeah, and it also doesn't encompass works with the same name. That's Similarly Named Works. I'm kinda thinking this may be the most trivial Trivia ever. I could maybe see it as having a point for names like "Terra" or "Megatron", but there's literally a list of Bobs on Western Animation. Do we really want a list of every fictional use of common given names? How about some kind of minimum standard for examples, like the characters have to share first and last names (if they have them)?

edited 3rd Sep '15 10:07:08 PM by phoenix

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#5: Sep 7th 2015 at 6:57:38 AM

When it comes to common names, I think there should be more similarities to justify their placement. Like if they had a common last name or a common role, that should justify it enough.

Anyways, the Western Animation subpage got quite a surgical operation, though it's not finished yet. I recently nixed a few shoehorns (some not in the right genre!) and a whole mess of sub-bullets.

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#6: Sep 10th 2015 at 12:28:17 PM

Some clean up has to be done for characters that just share part of a name. The description specifically states that they have to share an entire name, not just part of one.

I cut out a bunch of Mayas the other day because they just share a given name, not a family name.

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#7: Sep 10th 2015 at 2:14:05 PM

Due to the way the tropes is setup to be cross-fiction, I think axing on-page examples would be the best thing to do.

edited 10th Sep '15 2:14:18 PM by Karxrida

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#8: Mar 2nd 2022 at 3:43:56 AM

Nevermind

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 31st 2022 at 10:02:11 AM

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#9: Dec 7th 2022 at 5:55:49 AM

Due to a TRS effort declaring Names The Same as Not a Trope and the subpages cut, the thread no longer has a purpose, and will be closed.

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