There aren't any readily apparent standards for how examples are listed. Or how they're written, for that matter.
Some are listed by work, franchise, or creator, with all the characters in a from a given work, franchise, or creator as bullet points. This means there may be duplicate entries (ex. Work A and Work B have a character named Bob. Work A's entry says "Bob shares a name with a character from Work B." Work B's entry says "Bob shares a name with a character from Work A):
- Both Paper Mario and Wario Land: Shake It! have near identically named volcano levels with a general Lethal Lava Land theme. One's... Mt. Lavalava, and the other is Mt. Lava Lava.
- The Mario series has two different enemy types referred to as Grinder: one is a buzzsaw, the other is a monkey (though usually only in the Yoshi's Island series; elsewhere it's usually called Ukiki).
- Similarly, Fuzzies in most Mario games are black fuzz balls with faces that bounce around or follow set paths. But in Yoshi's Island, they're white cotton spore-like things that float around and make you dizzy if you touch or eat them.
- There's a Twilight Town in both Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door and Kingdom Hearts II.
- Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door and Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire as well as their remakes both have a city named Petalburg.
- Gooma is both Goombario's grandmother and a flail-wielding boss from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.
Some are listed by the name of the character, with there being examples from the same work in different places:
- The Nobodies from Devil May Cry should not be, under any but the most heavily drugged-and-drunk situations, mistaken for the Nobodies from Kingdom Hearts. Though a properly done DMC/KH crossover would be totally sweet.
- From two of Square Enix's most popular franchises, we have Terra and Terra.
There's also the problem of which subpage something should be listed on. The Cross-Media page seems to be for when Work A is a video game and Work B is a movie and they both have a character named Bob. This implies that the media-specific subpages should contain only examples where Work A and Work B are both the same type of media. But in practice, many examples seem to be listed either on a media-specific subpage (or even on multiple media subpages) rather than the Cross-Media page.
I would think that this last issue would need to be dealt with before attempting cleanup/alphabetization/reorganization/whatever else of the subpages. Wow, that was long. Thoughts?
edited 3rd Sep '15 8:23:59 PM by phoenix
Wait, wait, wait. Names The Same is supposed to be cross-fiction? That seems completely useless, if not an open call to Fan Myopia-type fan-pushing. I thought it was supposed to be within a single work or setting, like the opposite of One-Steve Limit.
edited 3rd Sep '15 9:17:58 PM by nrjxll
Yeah, and it also doesn't encompass works with the same name. That's Similarly Named Works. I'm kinda thinking this may be the most trivial Trivia ever. I could maybe see it as having a point for names like "Terra" or "Megatron", but there's literally a list of Bobs on Western Animation. Do we really want a list of every fictional use of common given names? How about some kind of minimum standard for examples, like the characters have to share first and last names (if they have them)?
edited 3rd Sep '15 10:07:08 PM by phoenix
When it comes to common names, I think there should be more similarities to justify their placement. Like if they had a common last name or a common role, that should justify it enough.
Anyways, the Western Animation subpage got quite a surgical operation, though it's not finished yet. I recently nixed a few shoehorns (some not in the right genre!) and a whole mess of sub-bullets.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportSome clean up has to be done for characters that just share part of a name. The description specifically states that they have to share an entire name, not just part of one.
I cut out a bunch of Mayas the other day because they just share a given name, not a family name.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.Due to the way the tropes is setup to be cross-fiction, I think axing on-page examples would be the best thing to do.
edited 10th Sep '15 2:14:18 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?Due to a TRS effort declaring Names The Same as Not a Trope and the subpages cut, the thread no longer has a purpose, and will be closed.
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As I was looking through the subpages of Names The Same, it seems that the pages appear to be quite a mess. Some examples—and to an extent some pages—are unsorted, for starters, making it hard to find certain names, and risking the chance of some examples being repeated. It would be great if they were sorted a little better.
Furthermore, I think creators/series that tend to use this as a trend may need their own pages. Capcom (found in the Video Games subpage) is one example.
Are there any other ways that we can clean up these pages?
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