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The Grand and Unified Appearance Trope Clean Up (now on ThighHighBoots):

Currently on the table: Thigh-High Boots

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

edited 8th Apr '14 9:23:55 PM by Madrugada

Seeking for Light
[up] That sounds good to me.

 377 Ironeye, Thu, 21st Feb '13 12:08:42 PM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
I agree. That's a cut request I wouldn't approve.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 378 Septimus Heap, Thu, 21st Feb '13 12:12:20 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Either redirect or a disambiguation.

edited 21st Feb '13 12:12:42 PM by SeptimusHeap

 379 Ironeye, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 12:47:19 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Here's a very rough draft for a useful notes page on heterochromia.


Heterochromia iridis is a difference in coloration in the iris of the eyes. It comes in two forms:
  • Complete heterochromia, in which two irises are different colors.
  • Partial heterochromia, in which one iris has a section that doesn't match the rest of the iris.
Heterochromia can be inherited, result from disease, or be caused by injury, and is generally harmless on its own. Though common in some species of animals, including cats, it affects less than one tenth of one percent of the U.S. population. This rarity means that by The Law of Conservation of Detail, few people in fiction have heterochromia without it serving a thematic or plot function, particularly in media that don't use images or video of human actors (who might naturally have heterochromia). Characters with noticeable heterochromia usually fall into one or more categories:
  • One or both of their eyes have been altered, either to gain additional capabilities or to replace a damaged natural eye. In fantasy, this tends toward Evil Eye; in science fiction, it's more likely to be one or more Electronic Eyes.
  • The mismatch marks the character as special in some way, whether as magical, nonhuman, or something else entirely. With so few Muggles having heterochromia, there won't be too many false positives, but the condition is still common enough that the uninitiated won't find the trait too odd.
  • If two characters have heterochromia, particularly if the irregularities are the same for both, their lives are linked via this Connecting Oddity. Expect a Family Eye Resemblance or something weirder. Since some types of heterochromia are genetic, this is Truth in Television.
  • If one of the eyes falls on the Uh-Oh Eyes spectrum of eye colors and types to watch out for or is monochromatic, the normalness of the other eye emphasizes the weirdness of the other to give the unsettling effect of a Red Right Hand. The character is marked as a villain, whether or not they really are.
  • The mismatch in eyes is used as a Duality Motif to foreshadow a hidden or dual aspect of their nature, whether literally (such as with werebeasts) or in personality (Tsundere to Split Personality and everywhere in between).
Depending on the context in which the heterochromia is used, the audience will expect at least one of these cases—heterochromia is just too rare and odd to be incidental...unless the author was counting on that and planned for a Subverted Trope or a Red Herring.

edited 23rd Feb '13 12:47:58 AM by Ironeye

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 380 Ironeye, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 12:56:21 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
With Mod Hat On
Calling the crowner as overwhelmingly in favor of moving all examples to the broad tropes based on function. Our to-do list:
  • Move examples to Red Right Hand, Electronic Eyes, and Evil Eye. This list can get us started.
  • Make minor changes to the descriptions of Electronic Eyes and Evil Eye so that they more explicitly mention the possibility of non-matching eyes and no longer pothole to Mismatched Eyes.
  • Launch the Duality Motif trope and move examples. YKTTW
  • Launch the Connecting Oddity trope and move examples
  • Launch the Unusual Trait Marks You As Special trope and move examples
  • Figure out what's going on with Windows to the Soul and the connection between eyes and magic, moving examples accordingly. TRS thread, though that discussion may be shunted here.

edited 23rd Feb '13 2:33:27 AM by Ironeye

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 381 Septimus Heap, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 2:59:56 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Windows to the Soul looks like it's trying to be the supertrope for Meaningful Eye Colours.

Also, for this thread's attention: TRS topic for White-Haired Pretty Boy.

 382 lu 127, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 3:01:58 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Ooops.

edited 23rd Feb '13 3:02:34 AM by lu127

迷子の足音消えた
代わりに祈りの唄
 383 Marq FJA, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 3:14:47 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
[up][up] You sure it's not synonymous with Meaningful Eye Color?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 384 Septimus Heap, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 3:15:53 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Yes. It's apparently the same thing.

 385 Ironeye, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 2:39:47 PM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Yeah, it's trying to be about any use of eyes for symbolic purposes, but ended up as Meaningful Eye Color. There was talk earlier about salvaging it to be about the connection between eyes and magic, perhaps as a supertrope of Elemental Eye Colors, but I don't think we can afford to keep it at that name due to being too close to another trope name.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 386 Septimus Heap, Sat, 23rd Feb '13 2:53:32 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
That name needs to change in any case.

Also, fixing that trope could help at fixing Green Eyes, the next mega-project (after Mismatched Eyes)

I went ahead and commented all the zero context and poorly written examples on Hot Mom. We may want to put that on the watchlist because that was a lot examples that needed to be commented out.

 388 Ironeye, Tue, 26th Feb '13 12:16:39 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Hot Mom's already on our list.

Anyway, in addition to starting the two other YKTTW for Mismatched Eyes, we also need to come up with a description for the trope about eyes and magic being linked, with Evil Eye (an eye itself has magical powers) as a subtrope.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Like Heterochromatic Magician? (Is heterochromatic a word?)

 390 Ironeye, Tue, 26th Feb '13 10:32:47 PM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Not specifically linked to heterochromia, nor to magical talent. We're thinking about making a trope for more general connections between magic and eyes, such as magical runs being scribed into pupils and such.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 391 Troacctid, Wed, 27th Feb '13 12:12:46 AM from California
Isn't that covered by Evil Eye?
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 392 Ironeye, Wed, 27th Feb '13 12:35:59 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
Evil Eye is for when the eye itself is magical, though the examples are all over the place. They include:
  • The colloquial "evil eye" (i.e. glaring at someone) and other things called "Evil Eye" or "Evil Eyes"
  • Odd eye colors marking characters as evil.
  • Eyes that somehow relate to a character's unusual abilities, whether by changing color when the abilities are used, or something else entirely.
  • Hypnotic Eyes (which seems like it should be a subtrope or sister trope, depending on perspective, but is never called out as such)
  • Extra eyes grown, whether or not they have special abilities.
  • The standard telepathic trope of looking into someone's eyes to read their mind. (Do we have this one already?)
  • Electronic Eyes
  • Explicitly magical eyes (i.e. the actual trope)
This isn't the wicks, mind, but the example list. The one that is theoretically read after the description.

Now, if we're going with the common use of Evil Eye, then no, we don't need a new trope. If we're sticking with Evil Eye as written, we certainly do need a new one.

I'm off to take Evil Eye to the TRS.

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 393 Noaqiyeum, Wed, 27th Feb '13 6:22:38 AM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
The standard telepathic trope of looking into someone's eyes to read their mind. (Do we have this one already?)

This is what Windows to the Soul sounds like it is, but isn't.
"In case of bad dreams and worse reality, sing out loud."
- eagleoftheninth
 395 Marq FJA, Wed, 27th Feb '13 8:05:25 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Windows of the Soul is not telepathy-dependant; it's more an extension of a real-life expression to denote what is more properly defined as reading someone's face (rather than just the eyes).

Windows to the Soul is, as has been said time and again, in dire need of renaming to something like Meaningful Eye Colors.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 396 Noaqiyeum, Wed, 27th Feb '13 8:25:20 AM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Well, the idea that the eyes are the windows of the soul means that you can look into someone's eyes and see who they are as a person. In some cases this is an ability that only psychics or magic-users have, but in other cases it's just a fact of the world. I don't think it's worth splitting depending on whether everyone can do it or only a few gifted people.
"In case of bad dreams and worse reality, sing out loud."
- eagleoftheninth
 397 Marq FJA, Wed, 27th Feb '13 2:42:41 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
[up] I know that, and I agree with not splitting it.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 398 Noaqiyeum, Wed, 27th Feb '13 6:54:56 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Oh. Sorry!
"In case of bad dreams and worse reality, sing out loud."
- eagleoftheninth
A YKTTW, Yellow Eyes Of Sneakiness for this thread's attention.

I think Big Ol' Eyebrows needs to be looked at. It was brought up in the Trope Description improvement thread, but I think it might need more work than that. Right now it is just a random listing or real and fictional people with bushy eyebrows.

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