Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages
. Launches
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Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
Worklist for today:
- Characters.Babe: Empty unindexed character page by ~Dino Mario Zilla.
- The Case of Charles Dexter Ward: Work page with no description, indexing or crosswicking by ~thesunisup.
- Crystal Defenders: Stub work page.
- Elliot Moose: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Hidden Agenda: Stub work page.
- Skipping School: Trope without YKTTW, indexing or crosswicking and only three good examples by ~Negi Spongie.
- Characters.Tate No Yuusha No Nariagari: Empty unindexed character page by ~Kaiser Blak.
- Trosh The Movie The Game: Stub work page.
Lost in Space
- VisualNovel.Acidic: Stub work page for an unreleased VN. ~LCL made it.
^Messaged them.
Otherwise:
- Charli XCX: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- No Girls Allowed: A bad trope page without YKTTW by ~J1233191.
Sorcerer in training
No Girls Allowed: Ugh, cut that.
While "No Girls Allowed" young boys' groups appear in a variety of works, I'm not sure if it's a trope or what. And anything based on it needs to be much, much, much better.
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
J1233191 says No Girls Allowed has "at least two known examples," but doesn't even mention one? Well, that's one troper who needs to find out what YKTTW is for.
Sorcerer in training
Calvin and Hobbes and Dennis the Menace (stateside version) came to mind.
I didn't particularly like the meme talk in his description. (And I suspect that commenting on political correctness goes under Cautious Editing Judgement.)
edited 3rd Sep '14 9:15:46 PM by Candi
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
No Girls Allowed: I'm actually surprised that there isn't a trope like this already. Sadly though, this needs serious work. Cut and send it to YKTTW.
edited 4th Sep '14 7:00:44 AM by valozzy
Looking to the YKTTW to Insane Forgiveness, this was launched with only one hat.
OK, after a diversion about Frozen and the presence or not of Big Bad in it, today's worklist:
- Insane Forgiveness: Pardon, but that article is more than 4 years old.
- Joan Rivers: ~shamblingdead, since when do we put work or creator pages in the Main/ namespace?
- GameMod.Minecraft: I am extremely dubious of such a page; it looks like a work page that attempts to trope all works at once. Never mind the lack of indexing. Calling ~Pyrarson in.
- No Girls Allowed: Mr Death has already cutlisted it.
- Spirit Circle: ~Den Shazo 15 made the work page blank.
Also, I have handled some items on @2248; these that still remain are Baby Morph Episode, Characteristic Tropes, Doomed Hurt Guy, Ground Wave, The Kindness of Strangers, Magical Guide, One-Eyed Shot and When In Rome Do As I Do.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Zzzzzzzzzz
As Septimus pointed out, Insane Forgiveness was launched long before the Hat system was put in place. Is there anything actually wrong with the page? It looks fine to me.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.(confused)If this is anterior to the Hat System, why exists one hat in the superior left of the YKTTW?
All YKTT Ws that predate the hat system retroactively got one hat.
Some troper a while back was posting on pretty much every single discussion page he could find complaining about them being launched with one hat until I explained it to them.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Sorry. Will change. I just clicked on it from somewhere else and started typing.
Today's worklist:
- Berwick Saga: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Characters.A-F, Characters.G-L, Characters.M-S and Characters.T-Z: By The Cookie God, a character pages set that is a) empty, b) under a hyphenated title and c) using wrong titles that don't refer to a work.
- Dazed and Confused: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Life After Lucy: I am not sure what this page is supposed to be, but it certainly doesn't go into this namespace; by ~garrisonskunk.
- Mikagura School Suite: That so doesn't look like it belongs into this namespace; by ~Takeshi80.
- Neo Duelist League: ~The Cookie God, why did you create that page when we already have Website.Neo Duelist League?
- Skipping School: ~Negi Spongie, can you bring the page through YKTTW? It's fairly lacking right now. Also, asking for more opinions.
I'm just pedantic and didn't realize it would be a problem. I've moved the changes I made on the main page to the website page and Main is now blank. Delete it or whatever needs to be done with it. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I have no idea what Life After Lucy is supposed to be either. A work page for The Lucy Show, Here's Lucy, and Life With Lucy all rolled into one? Errant paragraphs from a Creator/ page for Lucille Ball? Lots of formatting problems with the page as well, mostly revolving around a shaky understanding of how paragraph breaks work. My inclination would be to cutlist it and start over with a clearer idea of what the page should be and which namespace should house it.
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Life After Lucy was the sequel to Life with Lucy, I think. It has it's own special place on TV Hell specials on TV. No-one's heard of it because it's awful, unlike things like My Mother the Car, also mentioned in such specials, which is just weird.
edited 6th Sep '14 5:00:18 PM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
You're sure you're not thinking of Life With Lucy itself? The only work I can find called Life After Lucy is a book written by the actor who played Ricky Ricardo Jr. (Keith Thibodeaux, who apparently grew up to be a Christian rock drummer) about twenty years ago.
Again, though, I have no idea what that article is supposed to be.
OK, methinks that Outskirts Battle Dome has snapped my patience for people making bad pages in the wrong place prematurely today, so I'll ask someone else to handle it.
Worklist, otherwise:
- Characters.The Awesomes: Character page with no indexing and all entries Zero-Context Example, plus a spoiler policy violation; by ~Malaise.
- Hungry Shark: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Kat And Mouse: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Outskirts Battle Dome: Stubby work page in wrong namespace; by ~The Dead Silence.
- Sandbox.Space Run: ~DracMonster, do you still need this page?
Everybody's dead, Dave.
My Game Mod page for Minecraft was an honest mistake. I wanted Minecraft to get some more coverage on the modded side of things, and at the time I wasn't finding any. I didn't realize until after I started that page that there were MC mod pages in the index and that the prefix should have been 'Video Game/'.
I don't think the page is completely useless though, it could probably still be used as a 'miscellaneous mods' page or introduction to the mods that is mostly linking to mods pages. Or should we just get rid of it?
H.B. Ward
Today's worklist:
- Headscratchers.Dead Rising 3: That page needs to be indexed, ~Cobra Prime.
- Jeremy Jahns: Is this a creator page or a page about his videos, ~Troper Joe?
- Life After Lucy: So this is a work page after all.
- Memories: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- Outskirts Battle Dome: Apparently a previous page here was cut for being a drama magnet.
- Tsukiuta: Stub work page; creator messaged.
- You're the Worst: Stub work page; creator messaged.
~Pyrarson, game mods are fanworks. They can recommended on FanficRecs.Minecraft, and if they have a page on the wiki, they can be indexed on FanWorks.Minecraft. Putting them all together on one page though is not good formatting.
Also, while some of the tropes backlog has been processed, @2248 has still a few pending items.
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Life After Lucy seems to be a single troper's nickname for all of Lucille Ball's work after I Love Lucy. So it's sort of a work's page... but... not really.
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Except we don't do that here, unless there is a website, book or documentary by that title that chronicles her career after I Love Lucy. And I was thinking of Life With Lucy.
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Yeah. I say cut the whole mess, especially since the examples are really bad, either with too little context, being on the wrong page, or Square Peg Round Trope. I'd say the only example on the page that isn't significantly flawed is Crossover. Every other one is bad.
edited 8th Sep '14 11:50:50 AM by Larkmarn
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
Ah sorry, I just added it to the list. You and I agreed on cutting it, no one defended it, and the creator's missteps were enough to get him suspended.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.