TLP Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched TLPs and pages

edited 15th Jul '17 6:19:54 AM by MarqFJA

Those subpages are effectively blank, so yes I think they should go on the Cut List. That said, the works page seems fine. Except the description itself.

That description of the work looks to have been pulled from another site. I'm not sure if that's kosher even if there's attribution.

Seems someone else started adding stuff just after I posted about it in this thread, guess it's fine then. I had sent a stub notification to Demongodofchaos 2 before posting about here, guess nothing else needs doing, aside from maybe bugging them about writing the description in their own words?

edited 15th Jul '17 7:15:40 AM by homogenized

Plagiarism is not hosted here. If they don't fix it, take it to the copy paste thread.

- Link to the Copy Paste Thread.

So, continuing from the last page, I suppose I should take The Gardener to Repairs instead of trying to handle the repairs in this thread?

edited 15th Jul '17 2:45:57 PM by Malady

we could do it here. As there are 2 current variations mentioned, I'd expand on both. The first would be showing a caring character type through having gardening (especially specifically pruning and landscaping) as a hobby; the second would be a magical gardener, a literal green thumb sort who has plant powers (unless we already have something like that, I feel like we do with Green Thumb)

GamingGroup.The Trinity Emblem got a bad namespace and no tropes listed

I've sent a stub notifier

I already cut it.

- Gardening Green Thumb just seems like Mundane Utility? Possibly Mundane Made Awesome.

Sing A New Song is just one line

Characters.Theme Twin Naming appears to be someones attempt to add a new entry to the trope page

And I'm not sure what ECKVA is meant to be and it is the users only edit

edited 17th Jul '17 6:53:49 AM by jormis29

Creator.Queg was just made with 3(!) redirects and... yeah. Other than sounding like overly gushing (and reminding me of that kind of forced zaniness of a kid who binged all five books in the Hitchhiker's trilogy while eating a ridiculous amount of Pixie Stix... might be speaking from experience, here), none of the comics on the page have TV Tropes pages. Ironically, the guy who made the page also DID make a page for one of his works... but didn't list it on his creator's page.

This is what it says over on Creators:

That doesn't seem kosher at all. I think all of those redirects should be cut so that someone can make those pages for those works if they want to.

Also note that the redirects are wicked from the Creator/ page, which is misleading...

- So, change The Gardener to Caring Gardener, and move all Green Thumb magic gardening to Mundane Utility and/or Mundane Made Awesome?

edited 17th Jul '17 6:37:03 AM by Malady

I wouldn't call the superpower to control plants a Mundane Utility (Poison Ivy, anyone?) — but the "gardener does his task by magic" is Mundane Made Awesome Mundane Utility (thanks, Malady). Move those examples there. Any examples of Green Thumb go there, then needs some rewrite to Caring Gardener.

edited 17th Jul '17 8:41:09 AM by lakingsif

As a character, my brain automatically goes to a hired gardener, often the groundskeeper.

• Common person for young children to befriend and get wisdom from (I suspect it's a combination of Close to Earth wisdom and Old Retainer).
• Usually unusually well-informed of what's going on, particularly things thought to be private, due to the combination of them being ubiquitous enough not to notice, their quiet work, and their tendency to literally be hidden in the hedgerows. May overlap with the former as they give said child the "real facts".
• Overlap with Crusty Caretaker in that they're often less than sociable, although character-wise, they tend to be more introverted than antisocial.
• May be some degree of Almighty Janitor due to them knowing where the bodies are buried, figuratively and sometimes literally.

- Mundane Made Awesome is a mundane thing presented in an awesome way, like large loud swishes when writing things.

Mundane Utility is Mundane thing done with awesome abilities.

new launch Rivalry as Courtship is very similar to Best Her to Bed Her

Huh. At first I thought your claim was spurious, but Best Her to Bed Her is a LOT broader than I thought.

Honestly, the only concrete difference between the two is that Best Her to Bed Her is written as the beaten one exclusively being female. There does seem to be a different feel to the two (Rivalry as Courtship seems to be more about "UST between rivals") but they're really similar. Did this come up in YKTTW?

edited 18th Jul '17 6:02:53 AM by Larkmarn

just checked, and it didn't, but there are only a few comments at all.

Also, examples aren't great. The description is explicitly "Bob is interested in Alice. Therefore he decides to become her rival."

Of the five examples, we have:

• Bob tries to keep up with Alice in a sport just to keep her attention. (eh. Close enough)
• Bob and Alice are rivals and then become romantic (not this trope, according to the description)
• Belligerent Sexual Tension between rivals (it's unclear on the timing, but they seem to have been rivals first, then Alice was mean to cover her feelings)
• Entirely unrelated, this is just "rivals can be romanced."
• Again, Bob and Alice are rivals and become romantic.

Definitely send back to figure out what it is. There's five examples and only one vaguely resembles the description.

It seems kind of excessive with Best Her to Bed Her, Battle Couple, and invoked Foe Yay.

Just realized that despite consensus, we never sent Queerbaiting back. Could a mod unlaunch that?

Unlaunched.

Great. I'll cutlist the subpages.

wrong page — the Main page was an index, the UsefulNotes.Queer Baiting page was the one being discussed, can you recreate the Main.Queerbaiting page?

edited 19th Jul '17 1:18:25 PM by lakingsif