Five-Man Band cleanup

Unless "Billy" is a Gender-Blender Name, I think it's safe to say that wouldn't qualify as a Five-Man Band (though it could be a Team Of Five).

Problematic use of trope from Chuck:

• Five-Man Band: Team Bartowski, eventually.
  • The Hero: Chuck (Also The Smart Guy)
  • The Lancer: Sarah
  • The Big Guy: Casey
  • The Medic: Devon (Captain Awesome), Ellie
  • The Chick: Morgan
  • Sixth Ranger: Bryce Larkin*
    Whilst he died when it was still a Power Trio, he fits this role to a tee
    , Frost
  • Sixth Ranger Traitor: Daniel Shaw
  • 11th-Hour Ranger: Jeff and Lester
  • Mission Control: General Beckman, Director Graham

I didn't remove this one, as the character page for this work mentioned Morgan as the chick. Therefore, it needs to be edited when we remove this misuse.

Removed this problematic use of trope from Disney's Peter Pan:

• Five-Man Band:
  • Peter - The Leader (Acts like a leader, is very charismatic, etc.)
  • Tinkerbell - The Lancer (She tends to disagree with Peter, especially regarding Wendy.)
  • John - The Smart Guy (Obviously the smartest; he wears GLASSES for crying out loud!)
  • The Lost Boys - The Big Guy (They're not really too smart, but they definitely act as the muscle of the group.)
  • Wendy - The Chick or Team Mom (A peacekeeper and surrogate mother of the group who usually needs to be rescued.)
  • Michael - Tagalong Kid (Youngest sibling who serves as comic relief and "the cute one".)

The lost boys are more than one person, so it doesn't count.

edited 7th Oct '12 10:07:41 AM by KarjamP

Re: the Chuck example: I'm axing it right now. It violates "characters can only cover one role", "there can be no more than six characters", "team members cannot occupy any roles outside of the five specified ones", and "Sixth Ranger is not a character type; it's plot-based". That said, characters can occupy individual roles (e.g. The Smart Guy, The Leader, etc.) without the whole team being a Five-Man Band, so the character page entry on Morgan can stay, provided that she(?) actually does fit that role.

And yes, that Peter Pan example was correctly deleted.

No, he doesn't, as Morgan's male.

edited 7th Oct '12 10:17:38 AM by KarjamP

Ah, okay. I went and deleted the line on the character page.

I just scrubbed the Professional Wrestling page. Big time. According to the new strict rules only 4 of the entries on the page were still acceptable. However, those 4 should be entirely non-controversial.

I sent a message to Fast Eddie, suggesting we allow bands with two females and outlining the reasons why. His reply was "Seems sensible." I guess we can keep the Two Girls to a Team examples, provided that one of the girls is The Chick.

I'd like to add or have added The Adventures of Sinbad to Live Action TV / Five Man Band.

FYI. Sinbad, Firouz and Maeve/Bryn play the Leader, Smart Guy and Chick roles completely straight. Doubar has some Big Guy traits and Rongar has some Lancer traits, but Doubar's officially the second-in-command of the group.

The Adventures of Sinbad

Please explain a bit further; how does each person fit each role?

And another example added without discussion:

Kingdom Hearts II: The heroes form one at the end of the second game

I guess those would work for their roles (Goofy is a shield carrying knight, Donald the magic expert, Riku is a contrast for Sora) but as a five man band they don't count. For the bulk of the game it was just the trio: Soara, Donald, and Goofy. At the end they briefly unite but then the focus shifts to Sora/Riku/Kairi and for the boss battle simply Sora and Riku. They don't function as a five person unit

And yet another example added without discussion, from Live Action TV:

Big Brother UK 6 (2005)

Has there been any consideration given to either locking the pages or adding a commented-out note on them about going through this thread first?

edited 16th Oct '12 9:01:48 PM by nrjxll

Kingdom Hearts works in trios, duos, or bigger organisations, but not in groups of five. I highly doubt there are any examples.

edited 17th Oct '12 3:31:40 AM by lu127

There's a commented out note at the top of every subpage telling them that all examples have to come here first. There's been two people who added an example, belatedly saw the note, and removed the example (and then never came here), but everyone else seems to be ignoring it. I'm thinking maybe I need to go through and make them take up the whole editing window, rather than just the first half. And get rid of the "please".

edited 17th Oct '12 9:11:33 AM by Nocturna

A set of examples added without discussion:

The Walking Dead

The Men (In the first two seasons)

The Men (In season 3)

The Women (In season 3, since the dynamic is more evident)

They're definitely not Five-Man Band (as the gender numbers are wrong), but I'm skeptical that they're even Pair of Foils and a Mediator.

And another example added without discussing it here:

Sugar & Spice

edited 19th Oct '12 10:25:28 AM by Nocturna

Another example added without example:

The Heroes Of Olympus

In Book 3:

The actual members who fight of The Walking Dead entry fits all the archetypes. So I guess it's OK if it's re-added.

How do you get eight people into a Five Man Band? Other than rampant shoehorning, that is.

What said. Also, it is helpful if you explain why and how they fit, rather than just saying that you think they do.

Another example added without discussion:

Toa Mata/Nuva

The Sneaky Guy? Seriously?

Other than The Sneaky Guy thing, and the fact that it has six heroes instead of five, the Bionicle example fits the trope almost to a T. Also, both Pohatu and Onua share The Big Guy role, but do so in different ways, iirc.

Is Gali female?

Yes. All Toa of Water are female.

Could you write up the example in the format from this post? As we hammer out what goes where, we're trying to get the examples into that format.

If they're all female, they don't count. FMB must have one or two women, no more, no less, and one of them must be The Chick. Also, they must be a team, and the team must have exactly five or six members. And no doubling-up on roles.

eta: we really need a FAQ, like the one for Complete Monster.

edited 27th Oct '12 5:51:28 PM by Xtifr