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Unclear Description (page action crowner 3/21/14): Quirky Bard get usage counts

Fiddly Bard, spitballing some ideas:

The Fiddly Bard is a type of fantasy game character based on the archetype of the storyteller or songster. Bards are distinct in that they are not a particuarly martial or mystical archetype, although song is often revered as a divine power. Rather than appending a bard characterization to an existing character type, the Fiddly Bard is designed to have a unique set of abilities related to their gifts. Sometimes the Fiddly Bard is a type of Warrior Poet or Cultured Badass, but they could as easily be a gimmick character. Sometimes this works, sometimes it doesn't.

To qualify as a Fiddly Bard, the character should have all three of the following four key characteristics:
  • Not primarily a damage dealer, with spell or blade. Instead, the bard focuses on effects such as buffs or inflicting status effects that are usually seen as a secondary's secondary role. Typically, breadth of ability is not a strength; the character has an odd grab-bag of so-called powers.
  • A bard/minstrel type character, or another unprepossessing archetype. If not literally a bard, may practice a weird and slightly impractical form of magic, be a prince/princess or other chronically distressed character, or be a notably non-lethal Joke Character. May be deliebrately designed to be feckless in battle, perhaps even randomly doing useless things.
  • Has a unique mechanic. Typically manifestations involve using different instruments to activate different powers, unique mana-refreshing mechanics, or fueling magic with something other than conventional magic points.

Tropes commonly associated with the Spoony Bard:

edited 14th Apr '12 5:09:40 PM by pawsplay

 
 27 DRCEQ, Sat, 14th Apr '12 5:54:04 PM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
PIKA! ^_^
For what it's worth, a long time ago this trope had to be given an examplectomy as it was decided to repair the thread to focus specifically just on Bards alone. Before, it used to be any example from any type of video game that fit the description of the trope (such as the Pipe Runners from Advance Wars) but was used to basically just list Joke Character types or characters that had extremely limited and quirky uses.

I guess what I'm getting at is, the trope is now about bards, but now it's time to clean up the definition as to just exactly what kind of bard fits the bill for this trope.

edited 14th Apr '12 5:54:18 PM by DRCEQ

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 28 Spark 9, Sun, 15th Apr '12 3:13:41 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
I made a definition crowner here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/PageAction/SpoonyBard
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 29 ccoa, Tue, 15th May '12 7:54:53 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 30 ccoa, Sun, 17th Jun '12 8:34:07 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Calling crowner in favor of splitting trope into "quirky tagalong bard" and "mechanically useless class".
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 31 32 Footsteps, Mon, 18th Jun '12 12:52:58 PM from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
The 11th Grover
I take it that Spoony Bard will be the one to cover actual bards, then?
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
 32 Ghilz, Mon, 18th Jun '12 1:38:27 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
It seems like the good idea.

edited 18th Jun '12 1:46:07 PM by Ghilz

 33 Ghilz, Mon, 18th Jun '12 2:14:46 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
YKTTW'd a draft for the "Class with a gimmick often called Bard­" split off trope
 34 ccoa, Wed, 1st Aug '12 1:04:14 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Waiting on the YKTTW, it seems.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 35 lu 127, Wed, 10th Oct '12 1:25:37 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Any progress here?
何も恐れる事わ無い
 36 lu 127, Fri, 7th Dec '12 12:45:49 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
This hasn't moved at all since my last post, and the YKTTW is dead. Clocking it.
何も恐れる事わ無い
 37 Waxing Name, Fri, 7th Dec '12 1:30:36 AM from Storm's End
Ours is the Fury!
[up]Is the YKTTW dead for long enough that it's Up for Grabs? I can keep it moving if needed.
Please help out our The History Of Video Games page.
 38 lu 127, Fri, 7th Dec '12 6:32:24 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
It already has an Up for Grabs tag.
何も恐れる事わ無い
 39 StarSword, Tue, 5th Feb '13 3:56:41 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
I'm gonna launch Mechanically Unusual Class when I get home in an hour.

EDIT: And done.

edited 5th Feb '13 5:41:01 PM by StarSword

 40 Willbyr, Tue, 5th Feb '13 5:50:52 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
[up] Looks good as a start. I made some formatting tweaks.
 41 StarSword, Wed, 6th Feb '13 9:47:41 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
What else needs to happen to finish Spoony Bard?
 42 Septimus Heap, Wed, 6th Feb '13 9:58:07 AM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The other trope mentioned in the crowner.

 43 StarSword, Wed, 6th Feb '13 4:56:49 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
I mean, what do we do with it? Are we keeping the Spoony Bard name for the character type and splitting off the Mechanically Unusual Class examples, or what?
 44 Septimus Heap, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:29:53 AM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Keep Spoony Bard for the character type.

Sharknado Warning
I'd avoid keeping the name. A) The crowner doesn't mention what fate should befall the name so saying we must keep it is kinda jumping the gun. and B) the name seems responsible for alot of the issues. It's bound to attract more "Character X is a Bard" examples.

Spoony Character would at least avoid any needless association with bards.

Hell, the Trope Namer isn't even an example of a Quirky Tagalong Character - besides being a romantic, he's not particularly more quirky than the rest of the party.

edited 7th Feb '13 7:40:40 AM by CobraPrime

 46 Septimus Heap, Sun, 10th Feb '13 3:41:55 AM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Yeah. Shall we get a Single Proposition crowner going to get this renamed?

 47 StarSword, Sun, 10th Feb '13 2:40:47 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Somebody made one already here. I suggest we just retool it, come up with some names that aren't Mechanically Unusual Class, and paste it.

I've already added Bards Are Weirdos as a possible name.

edited 10th Feb '13 2:42:57 PM by StarSword

 48 Septimus Heap, Sun, 10th Feb '13 2:42:28 PM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
That crowner is more than two years old. And we still need the rename crowner before.

 49 StarSword, Sun, 10th Feb '13 2:45:33 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Sorry, this is my first time doing any kind of serious work in the TRS. Starting the rename crowner.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/SingleProposition/SpoonyBard

edited 10th Feb '13 2:46:47 PM by StarSword

 50 Septimus Heap, Sun, 10th Feb '13 2:52:23 PM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
To wiz, the rename procedure is on When To Rename A Trope.

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What would be the best way to fix the page?
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