YMMV: Invincible

YMMV Tropes For The Comic Book Invincible:

  • Alas, Poor Scrappy: In-universe example: Rex Splode. Few people would have admitted to liking him when he was alive, but those who knew him were all very much hurt by his death.
  • Arc Fatigue: The "Robot Takes Over The World" arc. In a comic that seemingly prided itself in being fast-paced (to the point that the obligatory Crisis Crossover was an issue long), this arc has (comparatively) dragged on. Doesn't helps that Robot is seemingly unstoppable.
  • Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy: Starting out as a light-hearted superhero comic, it quickly takes a nosedive into Darker and Edgier territory, as the bad guys come out of the woodwork to heap piles of shit on Mark, killing thousands of people before he's able to put them down, assuming they don't get personal and attack Eve or his mother. That SHIELD expy he works for? Employs psychotic killers to make cyborg zombies that are fully aware and horrified at their own existence and more than once tries to kill Mark for not marching to the beat of their drum. After a while it gets hard to care.
    • Mark not only letting a villain take over the earth but abandoning it as well didn't help much either. And there's the villain being pretty much invincible to those heroes that are still around on Earth.
    • Nolan, now Emperor of the Viltrumites, agreeing to a truce with Robot to protect his people, and shooting down the idea of fighting him. Looking at the characters' many horrible actions in the past, its hard to feel any sympathy for the decision whatsoever.
    • And there's Anissa raping Mark and his reactions to the fact (like hating being intimate with Eve. There is also Anissa's constant mocking of Mark afterwards with said fact). Whatever things could have been done to drop her over the Moral Event Horizon, the writers could not have chosen one that made more people sickened.
    • You also have the massive amounts of gorn shown in the comic. Sometimes it comes off as cheap shock value.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: The little-seen but hugely popular Allen the Alien. Kirkman has stated that, in his experience with the fandom, Allen is nearly everybody's favourite character. He's also Kirkman's favourite character, which is part of the reason why he hardly shows up; Kirkman's well aware that all it takes is a little overexposure to turn the Ensemble Darkhorse into The Scrappy.
    • Astounding Wolf-Man and Techjacket. Enough that they've both spun off into their own books and have pretty much become independent characters in their own right.
  • Like You Would Really Do It: In issue 63 Conquest appears to have killed Eve. She involuntarily heals herself the very next issue. In issue 100, Mark himself appears to have been killed within the first two pages by Dinosaurus. The succeeding pages show that Dinosaurus killed a clone of Mark, who's completely unharmed.
    • Issue 114 Mark confronts Robot, who has just assumed control of the free world in the name of logic and peace, but has killed hundreds in the process, including main characters. He successfully convinces Mark to give up, letting him stay in control.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Robot murdering various regular characters, heroes and villains alike, in his mission to take over the planet.
    • Anissa for beating down Mark after his girlfriend broke up with him and proceeds to rape him in the hopes of getting pregnant. She even taunts him later about how she wants to do it again.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Most of the more brutal fight scenes, especially ones involving Dinosaurus.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Oliver became a lot more tolerable after he began to appreciate humans better.
  • Villain Sue: Robot appears to be dangerously close to this.
    • Let us count the ways: He killed a humongous chunk of the super-heroes on Earth, is a Well-Intentioned Extremist Villain with Good Publicity (so much of an Extremist that two of his harshest critics are his own abandoned wife and child), his Robot bodies outnumber the heroes by a number so absurd that Curb-Stomp Battle doesn't begins to describe it, there is absolutely no place to hide or run from him anywhere on Earth, and his actions to make Earth a Utopia have so far gone so well that the few surviving heroes that have tried to play resistance so far have abandoned the fight and became his minions (it's not even a "try to make change from the inside" kind of Face-Heel Turn-they plainly said "he's in the right" and quit), leaving only the hard-core fanatics (so hard-core that they are becoming The Scrappy because they spend their every on-screen moment going on about how much they hate Robot) to fight (and, again, there's no place they can hide from his surveillance-he's only waiting for them to figure out themselves that he's in the right and then come to him, or do the first move so he can justify whatever atrocity he will do to stop them).
  • The Scrappy: Oliver, deliberately so.
  • Unpopular Popular Character: Rex Splode.
  • What an Idiot: During his initial Face-Heel Turn, Nolan is completely shocked that Mark doesn't want to join him in conquering Earth. This after almost twenty years of raising him as nothing less than a good natured hero, making no attempt to inculcate his son with his race's Blue and Orange Morality growing up. Possibly justified in that, even if he didn't realize it yet, his time on Earth had changed him for the better.
  • What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids?: Played for Laughs in the 'Allen the Alien' issues, which always cut away from sex scenes, with Kirkman claiming he wants to keep the comic family friendly. These same issues tend to contain some of the most violent battles in the comic, the first having Allen's intestines and eye ripped out. It's a Shout-Out to the Moral Dissonance of the old Comics Code, which was very lenient towards violence but extremely conservative in regards to sexual content.

YMMV Tropes For Invincible By Michael Jackson:

  • Black Sheep Hit: A possible inversion. While 13 million copies still dwarfs all album sales in the past decade, Invincible is seen as Jackson's worst album by default, as it's often compared to his past albums, which all sold over 20+ million copies.
  • Critical Dissonance: U.S. Reviews, while mixed, weren't very kind to the album, and (by Jackson's standards) it virtually bombed in its home territory, selling only two million copies. International sales and reviews, however, were much better.
  • Hype Backlash \ Overshadowed by Controversy: The main reasons for its underperforming.
  • Snark Bait: The album earned that, particularly on how it had a Non-Indicative Name - The typical joke was/is to say "Ha! MJ is certainly no longer invincible!" Even as it was followed by his career bottoming out as he left Sony.

Alternative Title(s):

Michael Jacksons Invincible