Trivia / The Last Jedi


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  • Acting for Two: Mark Hamill is spotted credited as one of the long list of minor characters. Specifically, he voices Dobbu Scay, the diminutive alien who mistakes BB-8 for a slot machine in Canto Bight.
  • Actor-Inspired Element: It was Benicio Del Toro's idea that DJ would take Rose's necklace as payment but return it to her once he was done using it, which helped his eventual betrayal sting that much more.
  • Acting in the Dark: Laura Dern didn't know about Holdo's backstory as revealed in Leia, Princess of Alderaan, including her possible bisexuality.
  • All-Star Cast: Laura Dern and Benicio del Toro join the cast, plus cameos from Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Justin Theroux and Tom Hardy.
  • Approval of God:
    • In contrast to his notably more tepid feelings about The Force Awakens, George Lucas called this one "beautifully made" and had nothing but complimentary things to say to Rian Johnson after viewing.
    • JJ Abrams, the director of the previous film, also said that the script for this film was so good, he wished he had made it.
  • Ascended Fanon: Some overlapped with Author's Saving Throw:
    • The criticism of the Jedi Order as an ineffective, hypocritical religious Order has long existed within the fandom and Star Wars Legends ever since the prequels. Here, Luke said as much about the Jedi and even Yoda admits their failures. Several of Luke's comments seem incredibly similar to Kreia's from Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. Specifically, that the Jedi do not have a monopoly on wisdom or understanding of the Force, and being able to use the Force does not automatically make one a superior being. This is shown in Kylo being one of the most unstable and psychotic Star Wars villains yet seen.
    • Kylo Ren's desperate attempt to look as cool as Vader in the first film was exaggerated to full on Emo Teen in the fandom, and he wears a Vader-like cape in his first scene in The Last Jedi. Here Snoke refers to Kylo as "a child in a mask", on par with the fans, and overtly mocked him by saying he should "take that ridiculous thing off." Kylo, in a fit of rage, destroys the mask (along with part of the elevator he's in) and spends the remainder of the film without it, and doesn't wear the cape anymore until the very end of the film.
    • The concept of "Force Bond" which Snoke created between Rey and Kylo as a way to find Luke Skywalker's location originated from Star Wars Legends, the most famous case being Knights of the Old Republic.
    • R2-D2's beeps being mostly censorship for his constant swearing is a very old joke. It gets a reference when he greets Luke and Luke yells at him to watch his mouth.
  • Author Existence Failure:
    • Narrowly averted with Carrie Fisher, who managed to complete all her filming before her death in December 2016. They actually could have done some editing magic to have her killed in the opening battle along with everyone else on the bridge and make things easier for the next film, but Rian Johnson insisted on leaving the entire performance as it was.
    • Erik Bauersfeld, the voice of Admiral Ackbar, died of natural causes in April 2016 during filming. Ackbar is thus voiced by Tom Kane, who has been voicing him for years in the cartoons, video games, and theme park attractions.
    • Jesús Barrero, the Mexican Spanish voice for Luke, was diagnosed with lung cancer in March 2015 and subsequently passed away from complications caused by it on February 17, 2016, only a few months after completing his work on his last film The Force Awakens. His nephew Víctor Covarrubias voiced Luke in the trailer, and Beto Castillo (who voiced the titular Doctor Strange (2016)) voice him in the final cut.
  • Backed by the Pentagon: Like the previous film, the Irish government again provided a ship to secure Skellig Michael for the film's shooting.
  • Beam Me Up, Scotty!: Rather fittingly, the reveal of Rey's parentage was subject to this as a lot of people seem to remember Kylo telling it to her, when she actually says it herself when he prods her to say what she's always known. Probably not coincidentally, the first version would be a lot easier to retcon away with the viewer's preferred parents for her by just having him be lying about it (although vague recollections of her childhood aren't exactly ironclad either).
  • B-Team Sequel: While The Force Awakens was already this in context of the franchise as a whole, in the context of the sequel trilogy alone, the film serves as this, being directed by Rian Johnson rather than J. J. Abrams, the director of The Force Awakens and Star Wars 9.
  • Casting Gag: In the Brazilian dub, Luke Skywalker had his old VA Marcus Jardym replaced by prolific voice actor Jorge Lucas, who shares practically the same name with the series' creator.
  • Creator Backlash: Zig Zagged with Mark Hamill. Before the film's release, he stated in multiple interviews that he had disagreed with Rian Johnson's take on Luke Skywalker, at one point telling him "I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you've made for this character". He later came around to appreciate the changes and the way they pushed him out of his comfort zone, and publicly regretted voicing these opinions due to how they were taken out of context.
    • One specific example he gave was the scene where Luke stand over Ben with a lightsaber. He was initially uncomfortable with it, before realizing it was the equivalent of Hitler's Time-Travel Exemption Act.
  • Darkhorse Casting: Like Daisy Ridley before The Force Awakens came out, Kelly Marie Tran is an unknown actress whose resume includes mostly short films, TV guest spots, and web videos (including roles on CollegeHumor).
  • Deleted Role: The much-ballyhooed cameos by Princes Harry and William ended up being cut from the theatrical release, as did another one from Tom Hardy (which, as a fully suited Stormtrooper, would have been yet another role where his face is covered up).
  • Deleted Scene:
    • There`s an alternate opening scene where the focus is on Finn waking up as the evacuation takes place, and he witnesses the First Order arriving. This has presumably been re-arranged to emphasize the Dreadnaught's dramatic entrance in the final cut.
    • Rey's third lesson.
    • On Snoke's ship, Finn runs into a stormtrooper (Tom Hardy) he served with. However, the man assumes Finn has been promoted to an officer (due to his stolen uniform) and congratulates him. It shows how the First Order has hushed up Finn's defection for morale.
    • Following Rose and Finn's captures and DJ's betrayal, Hux walks up to Rose and taunts her for her futile struggle against the First Order. Rose simply answers by biting his finger.
    • During their fight, Finn reveals to the surrounding stormtroopers how Phasma shut down the shield around Starkiller Base to save herself. Paranoid about being revealed as a coward and traitor, Phasma kills the troopers, giving Finn an opening.
    • During the Battle of Crait, the Millenium Falcon tries to fly back to the outpost's front gate following the Aerial Canyon Chase, but upon seeing the fleet of AT-ATs and AT-M6s constantly firing on Luke, Rey decides it's better to land elsewhere.
  • Dyeing for Your Art: While not a physical change, Andy Serkis taped down the left side of his mouth so that his performance-captured face would more accurately match Snoke's deformed jaw line.
  • Exact Words: Johnson has refused to identify who it is that the title refers to — other than to remind people that Jedi is both singular and plural. In actuality, it refers to Luke at first and then Rey by the end of the story.
  • Executive Meddling: It's been suggested that the rewrites that resulted in the Release Date Change came as a result of studio pressure to increase the parts of the new characters introduced in The Force Awakens following the incredibly positive reception to their characters.
  • Fan Nickname:
    • "BB-H8" quickly became one for First Order droid BB-9E, playing off being BB-8's Evil Counterpart.
    • "Broom Boy" for Temiri Blagg, one of the children working at a Fathier stable at Canto Bight.
    • "Vice Admiral Effie Trinket" for Amilyn Holdo, due to her wardrobe, hairstyle, and dye choices during a combat situation. Likewise, "Admiral Holdo My Beer" for the rather awesome way that she died.
    • "Renperor" for Kylo Ren, after his successful usurpation of Snoke. On tumblr, another popular nickname for Kylo is "Sexy Emo Honeypot", referring to his Shirtless Scene. For the same reason, he also goes by "Ben Swolo".
    • Rian Johnson has earned himself the nickname "Reylo Johnson" or "Rian Reylo Johnson" thanks to the large Ship Tease he gave them and the real-life enthusiasm he shows for it.
  • Flip-Flop of God: Rian Johnson said in a interview that while he considered Kylo Ren's story about Rey's parents to be legit, he noted that neither J. J. Abrams or Lucasfilm is obligated to stick with it for Star Wars 9, even invoking "from a certain point of view." That said, Daisy Ridley has stated that Abrams, at least, had the same idea as Johnson. Though in this case, this is less "Flip Flop of God" and more "another god may have other ideas."
  • God Never Said That: Mark Hamill stated a few times that he had serious reservations about Luke's story upon reading the script, but quickly grew to embrace it once filming actually started. A good portion of the film's haters took to conveniently dropping the second part of that and claiming he hates the film, until Hamill was driven to say he regretted ever bringing the issue up and not mince any words in calling it an "all time great" film.
  • I Knew It!:
    • Luke mentions that when Kylo Ren betrayed him, some of his students joined forces with him — indirectly confirming that the other Knights of Ren are indeed Luke's former students.
    • Many expected Luke Skywalker to die in this film, considering that he fills out Obi-Wan's archetype and that the last movie made it clear that no character was safe. While Luke does die, he ends up Ascended to a Higher Plane of Existence after facing down Kylo Ren.
    • A few fans suspected that Kylo Ren would follow in his grandfather's footsteps and betray Snoke.
    • More than a few were skeptical when they heard Luke's intention to end the Jedi, given how much of a cornerstone they have been to the franchise. Sure enough, Luke's arc is completed when he learns that their previous failures aren't a reason to end the Jedi Order, but a chance to build a better one.
    • Some fans had hazarded that Rey isn't related to the Skywalkers, Solos, or anyone of significance, and were proven right.
    • Many fans had already guessed that Kylo and Rey had forged a Force Bond after the first film. Sure enough....
    • Rey and Kylo Ren's relationship being developed more in this film, to the point of Kylo asking Rey to rule the galaxy with him, in a manner not too dissimilar to Vader's offer to Padmé in Revenge of the Sith.
    • There are at least few fans who believe that Rey's "I need someone to show my place in all this" isn't actually spoken to Kylo Ren. They were right, as it's spoken to Luke Skywalker when she asks him to teach the ways of the Force. The scene where Kylo extends his hand to Rey (which happens after the fight with Snoke's Praetorian Guards) still has the similar context that the trailer suggested, however.
    • Basically, check out anything in the "Confirmed" section of the Wild Mass Guesses tab for this movie, and you've got an example of this.
  • In Memoriam: The film is dedicated to "our princess," Carrie Fisher, after her passing in December 2016.
  • Jossed:
    • Mark Hamill's comments about the sense of importance Luke bestowed on Kylo Ren's training led some fans to speculate that Kylo was the real "chosen one" of Jedi prophecy and not his grandfather. Word of God later chimed in that Anakin/Vader was still The Chosen One of the prophecy of the Prequel Trilogy, and that Luke's line of thinking refers to an entirely different point of view altogether.
    • Rey isn't Luke's daughter, nor has she relation to any other main character like Obi-Wan or Palpatine. Kylo says that Rey's parents were "nobodies" who sold her off on Jakku for alcohol.
    • Combined with I Knew It!, because it depends on how you saw it: in the prequel trilogy, when Yoda absorbed and/or redirected lightning attacks, some believed it meant he could use lightning, which is typically considered a dark side power. Others believed he was just redirecting what was used against him. Well, whatever you believed before, the question of whether or not Yoda can conjure up lightning has been definitively answered!
  • Meme Acknowledgment: Shortly after The Force Awakens came out, webcomic artists thought it would be funny to have Luke train Rey by pretending to be Yoda (almost always by making Rey carry him on her back). Mark Hamill thought it was funny, too, judging by this tweet.
  • Milestone Celebration: The Last Jedi marks the 40th Anniversary of the Star Wars Saga, though it was originally intended to premiere closer to the release date of the original film (see "What Could Have Been" below). The film logo is even red, fitting of a ruby jubilee. It was also released the year of the 85th birthday of franchise composer John Williams.
  • Missing Trailer Scene: The scene of Rey charging across Ahch-To, lightsaber ignited, is not in the film, being part of the deleted scene about the third lesson. She does attack Luke with the saber in a moment of rage, but her hair is down as opposed to in buns, and the angle is completely different.
  • Multiple Languages, Same Voice Actor: Yoda is voiced by Guilherme Briggs in Latin Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese.
  • The Other Darrin:
    • Kenny Baker, who had played R2-D2 in all seven Star Wars films prior to this, passed the torch to Jimmy Vee (of Doctor Who fame) before his death.
    • Due to original Chewbacca actor Peter Mayhew's health issues, Joonas Suotamo already did all of Chewie's action scenes in The Force Awakens, and in this movie Suotamo fully replaces Mayhew.
    • Besides the already mentioned switch regarding Luke's voice in the Mexican dub, Yoda is voiced, bizarrely enough, by Guilherme Briggs, Yoda's Brazilian Portuguese voice actor, rather than Arturo Mercado, his voice actor since the very original trilogy.
    • The same example from above but for the Spanish dub, Yoda was voiced by Ángel Amorós as in Rebels, as most of Yoda's actors have passed away including Ricardo Palmerola, the actor that voiced him in the prequel trilogy and other media such as The Clone Wars. Oddly enough Amorós served as the replacement for Jordi Royo, who also voices Mace Windu and was Palmerola's substitute in The Clone Wars, because Rebels was recorded in Madrid rather than in Barcelona where most Star Wars's main media were recorded.
    • In a similar way in the Japanese dub, Yoda is voiced by Yohei Tadano, replacing the late Ichirō Nagai and reprising that role from Star Wars Rebels.
    • Due to the death of Erik Bauersfield in early 2016, Admiral Ackbar is voiced by Tom Kane, cementing Kane's place as the de facto voice of Ackbar (Kane had been voicing Ackbar in media such as the Battlefront reboot series and the LEGO spin-offs).
  • Playing Against Type: Adrian Edmondson, most famous for spending most of The '80s kicking Rik Mayall in the goolies to great comedic effect, appears as General Hux's competent, understated and strait-laced adjutant. Granted, the man has immense acting chops (while The Last Jedi is screening, he is playing Malvolio in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of Twelfth Night), but the contrast is still jarring.
  • Promoted Fanboy: Kelly Marie Tran is a huge fan of John Boyega. Overlaps with Meta Casting as Rose harbored massive admiration towards Finn.
  • Reality Subtext: The fact that Rey was just a nobody up until this point also reminds us of the fact that Daisy Ridley was just a Hollywood nobody until this franchise.
  • Recycled Premise: Finn's storyline, on paper, is the same one that he had in The Force Awakens — he's someone that wants to run away from the war and gets sucked into a mission before he can do that. The key difference is that it has a separate function in each movie; while in the previous film, Finn was learning to fight for someone else, The Last Jedi gives him reason to fight for a higher cause.
  • Release Date Change: The release was planned for May 26, 2017, but got delayed until December 15, 2017 due to rewrites expanding the parts of the lead characters introduced in The Force Awakens (and possibly due to a writers strike in the UK that had been brewing). Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales took the original spot.
  • Serendipity Writes the Plot: The Porgs were created because the puffins on Skellig Michael (where the scenes on Ach-To were filmed) kept getting in the shots, and because puffins were an indigenous, endangered species the crew were forbidden from removing them. Rian Johnson came up with the idea of digitally replacing them with a science-fictional equivalent because he liked the idea that the island would have its own native species.
  • Similarly Named Works: Two Star Wars Legends entries, a 1981 issue of the original Marvel Star Wars comic book series and a 2013 novel in the Coruscant Nights series, are already named The Last Jedi.
  • Spoiled by the Cast List: The first indication the public received that Yoda would appear in the film was when Frank Oz appeared at the red carpet premiere.
  • Teasing Creator: After the film's release, the crew definitely seem to enjoy tossing fuel on the fire of the Kylo/Rey Foe Romance Subtext: Mark Hamill calls their interactions full of "romantic tension", the story group jokes that his Shirtless Scene was because he specifically waited around shirtless for Rey, Rian Johnson agrees that "they could also make out" and teasingly suggests creating a spinoff of just that, and Adam Driver actually enacts a scene of them kissing with action figures on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
  • Throw It In!: Benicio Del Toro ad-libbed DJ's enigmatic response "Maybe", when Finn tells him he's wrong after DJ betrays the Resistance.
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  • Troubled Production: Notably one of the few Star Wars movies to not run into the kind of issues associated with the trope. The only misfortune the movie faced was the death of Carrie Fisher, although that was long after she had completed filming, and will affect the plans for the sequel more than this movie.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • Early script ideas involved Luke being blind, but this was ultimately decided against. It should be noted that this was before Rogue One decided to use a similar concept with Chirrut. And funnily enough, Mark Hamill plays a blind character in Season 2 of Trollhunters, which was released the very same day.
    • The original release date would have coincided with the 40th Anniversary of the limited release of A New Hope. The film does still manage to hit the overall 40th anniversary milestone, though.
    • Gugu Mbatha Raw and Tatiana Maslany were both in the running for roles in the film, but had to back out due to scheduling conflicts (or the roles in question being excised from the film altogether). This is actually not the first time that Maslany ran into this issue with a Star Wars movie.
    • Lando Calrissian was going to be Finn and Rose's contact at the casino (note Maz talking up the guy without giving his name like it's going to be some big reveal), until the crew considered that having Billy Dee Williams return just to completely fail in his mission would be an insult to the character, and that Lando would never betray the Rebellion a second time after his character development in The Empire Strikes Back.
    • Joaquin Phoenix was the actor originally considered to play DJ before Benicio del Toro got the part.
    • Obi-Wan was considered to appear as a Force ghost. This was removed as the only version of Obi-Wan Luke has interacted with is Alec Guinness's, who is long dead by now, and Johnson felt that having Luke interact with Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan would have felt too weird.
    • The Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi details a few variations of the laundry room scene where Finn, Rose, and DJ get their disguises. In one, the trio encounter a group of Stormtroopers only to realize they are empty suits of armor on a clothing conveyor belt. Another would have had them follow a lint trail to the laundry room.
    • According to the art book, Finn and Rose were going to break into a store in Canto Bight and steal a tux and gown, with a She Cleans Up Nicely effect for Rose in her dress and Finn having his tux on backwards. That idea was scrapped in favor of the two sticking with their Resistance gear. In early drafts, they were also going to meet the Master Codebreaker in the cabaret room, be taken along for a quest to retrieve a MacGuffin from a warlord, and be arrested on the casino's rooftop.
    • Finn was also going to be introduced in TLJ not in his bacta suit, but instead as one of Paige Tico's co-gunners, even re-enacting his opening scene from The Force Awakens, with her putting a bloody handprint over his heart. Johnson changed his mind in part because of the subtext and conflict it would introduce to Finn and Rose's relationship.
    • Also in the art book, Luke was going to be visited by a Sith Force Ghost while meditating in his hut on Ahch-To with the Sith being described as an "all-powerful Sith Lord who ruled over the Dark Side of the Force from the Afterlife" and was also described to be "pulling Snoke's strings" from behind the scenes.
    • At the start of the writing process, the crew laid out a spreadsheet of absolutely every possible answer to Rey's parentage they could think of, no matter how likely it was to actually be used. This included her actually being some kind of super advanced droid.
    • An extended version of Finn's battle with Phasma would have had him be cornered on a ledge by stormtroopers after smashing her helmet. When she gloats that he was a fool for betraying the First Order, Finn reveals that she was the one who shut down Starkiller Base's defences to save her own life. Phasma kills the stormtroopers in a fit of paranoia, but gets her hand cut off before she can shoot Finn and is shot in the chest with a plasma cannon, sending her flying off the ledge.
    • According to Mark Hamill, there was meant to be a scene of Luke grieving Han, but was cut. (And that while he was okay with it since scenes get cut all the time, he did question why the scene of Luke milking an alien made it in.)
  • Word of God: Rian Johnson clarified that "I have a bad feeling about this" is said by BB-8 as he and Poe are heading into the first battle (hence Poe's response "Hey, happy beeps here, buddy, c'mon.").
  • Working Title: According to Carrie Fisher's on-set pictures on Twitter, it was Space Bear.
  • Writing by the Seat of Your Pants: Zig-Zagged. Rian Johnson has admitted there were no payoffs planned for the setups in The Force Awakens, that he had to resolve them, and that his payoffs could be undone by J. J. Abrams next film; however, the plot line of Luke training Rey at the first Jedi temple comes from one of George Lucas' ideas for Episode VII, Johnson consulted the Lucasfilm Story Group to ensure his story fit within the canon, and Daisy Ridley says that as far as she knows, there actually is a general consensus on the main lines of the trilogy, each author just realizes it in his own way. She also adds that Johnson and Abrams did meet to discuss things and that Abrams expressed enthusiasm towards Johnson's script.
  • Written by Cast Member: Rian Johnson and Gwendoline Christie created Captain Phasma's backstory while making The Last Jedi. This is covered in Journey to Star Wars: The Last Jedi books, Phasma and Captain Phasma. And according to Word of God, Carrie Fisher also helped with the film's screenplay (though oddly not related to the Story Arc of her character Leia).

Assorted Trivia

  • Clocking in at 2 hours and 31 minutes, The Last Jedi is the longest Star Wars movie to date. Attack of the Clones previously held the title at 2 hours and 22 minutes.
  • Laura Dern couldn't stop saying "pew, pew" when firing her blaster. At one point, you can actually see her doing it in the film.

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