Virtually most, if not all British shows that get "exported" to other countries suffer from this trope. Case in point: Top Gear UK is loved in general by (mostly) everyone, but there is a strong divide with fans of Top Gear (US). The divides range from the hosts (Tanner Faust is too wooden and stiff, Rutledge Wood's NASCAR background and his annoying fratboy attitude, to Adam Ferrara's "lack of creditable car credentials") to the format changes (News is generally extremely brief to accommodate commercials, the renaming of Star in a Reasonably Priced Car to "Big Star, Little Car," Season 2.1 seemed to have turned into weekly "Cheap Car Challenges" which would dominate the program time, etc.) to the fears that due to the advertising dollars that fund such shows, fair and honest criticism would be squashed in order to "please the advertisers." Prominent car guy and comedian Jay Leno remarked that such a show would never flourish in the United States in its original form. This applies to just any show that receives similar treatment.
There are many flavors of civil war within the 24 fandom.
Jack Bauer is a card-carrying villain vs. Jack Bauer is the 13th Disciple of Christ vs. Jack Bauer, Tortured Soul Who Saves The World At The Expense Of Any Sort of Hope For a Normal Life.
President Palmer was unrealistic vs. President Palmer was the second best character in the show vs. the show Jumped the Shark when President Palmer was written out and killed off.
The Real Time gimmick is played out vs. The Real Time Format is a stroke of undiluted genius.
Fans are also split about which season is the best, with Seasons 2 and 5 leading to massive nerd arguments over which season was the best.
Do not even start on female characters in the show. Not one single female character elicits a moderate reaction, they are either Amazon goddesses or straight bitches. No middle. Not ever.
With Live Another Day, the base continues to be broken about Audrey. Depending on who you ask, she's been the dullest of Jack's love interests and just a dull character overall (despite the fact that she Took a Level in Badass after Day 4 - which admittedly doesn't say much because 24 takes place in a World of Badass). Others claim that Jack and Audrey have better chemistry than anyone else and are likewise very pleased to see her, and hope the Will They Or Wontthey between her and Jack will finally be happily resolved after over a decade in the show's timeline (and over 7 years in real life, partially due to the show's cancellation).
The way Curtis died rubbed some fans the wrong way. Most think he was killed off because he was becoming a Ensemble Dark Horse.
Fans who think the ending of the show was an acceptable ending vs. those who want the much-talked about movie to finally happen in order to move the plot even further.
Renee's death brought the season down for many, who found it a lazy (and extremely predictable) attempt at shock value.
Tony's treatment in the seventh season is seen as either a natural evolution of his character considering the events he went through and a nice way of contrasting Jack and Tony's characters, or a giant middle finger to the Character Development he attained over the first five seasons.
The brief White House siege arc in the middle of Season 7 that lead's to Bill's death is either seen as awesome and one of the best moments in the show or one of the most ridiculous storylines in the series.
Skye as a semi-original character was excellent, but her exclusively becoming her Daisy Johnson comic-counterpart ruined the character?
Patton Oswalt — much-needed comic relief or annoying Overly Long Gag who needs to get thrown off The Bus?
The Amazing Race has two groups of fans, those who believe that This Is A Race (and prefer intense competition between the teams), and the Call It Karma fans (who watch to see teams they like). They generally get along at the beginning of a season, until something sets them off and the flame wars carry on for the remainder of the season. Arguments about team selection and how the courses should be planned out can get pretty heated as well.
Ask the fans to rank the seasons. Seasons 5, 7, and 12 will generally be at the top, while 8 and 15 will be at the bottom, but no one will be able to agree on how everything else places in-between.
Arrow has the infamous Oliver/Laurel and Oliver/Felicity shipping wars, which can get pretty fierce with many fans. Also, the Oliver/Sara shipping tends to get pretty bad too.
Oliver/Felicity, which previously seemed to be the Fan-Preferred Couple of the entire show, has since downgraded heavily in popularity in which Season 3 made them official. Many complaints range from the pairing having not much development and being turned to one of the lighthearted and fresher couples into an angsty mess, and at this point many fans are now switching over to hoping the once loathed Laurel/Oliver couple returns (given that Black Canary/Green Arrow are one of the most infamous comic pairings of all time).
Let's not forget Felicity/Ray or even Felicity/Barry...
Furthermore, Sinclair or Sheridan? Was Season 5 any good at all, or just a giant pile of suck? Was Crusade a good show killed too soon by a network, or did it bite? Marcus Cole: cool Gentleman Snarker or incredibly irritating Gary Stu, and should he have got killed off or not?
Are the BioCylons REAL cylons, or uppity Replicants who overthrew the REAL cylons.
The series finale of the new Battlestar Galactica, especially the last hour, and especially the last 5 minutes.
More/less battles, more/less character focus, more/less about relationships, more/less mythology.
Other points of contention for the new version were the Jitter Cam, Starbuck and Boomer being a girl, the Race Lift of Tigh and Boomer, recasting Baltar as an Handsome LechAnti-Hero, the new lead character of Laura Roslin, the fact that the writers were making it up as they went along despite putting at the start of just about every episode during seasons one through three that "They Have a Plan", and a third season finale where all of the MIA human Cylons turned out to be known characters.
Whether or not Lee Adama was wise to waste a perfectly good ship. Some humorously feel he should have been shot for making that decision. It doesn't help that the Pegasus was a Cool Ship too.
Caprica: Thought-provoking, original science fiction series that creeps out from under the shadow of Battlestar to be its own story or mind-numbingly dull show overwrought with religious pretensions and teen angst?
Blood And Chrome: Only just announced but already severely divisive. What Caprica should be or the final nail in the coffin of a great show? Or, alternatively, getting back to what was fun about BSG in the first place or dumbing down the franchise? A moot point now as the series never went beyond 3 webisodes on youtube.
Blue Bloods Usually over whether or not the show went from being fair, and honest about socio-political issues, to becoming a kinda fascist cop propaganda sometime after season 4.
The show's rather flippant attitude towards civil rights is very divisive in the light of the troubling number of controversial deaths surrounding police and African Americans. It doesn't help that the main civil rights spokesman on the show - Rev. Potter is corrupt and usually has to resort to cliche straw arguments fabricating confrontations in order to continue his war on the NYPD, or that the show seems to support real life controversial methods like "Stop and Frisk" (which In-Universe Frank only agreed to stop supporting after Jamie pointed out that many cops were using it as a crutch), or an having entire episode dealing with the "Blue Wall of Silence" while still having all In-Universe critics of the police be obnoxious straw men of whom Potter is the most recurring.
It gets worse in Season Six, with an entire episode dedicated to defending the very controversial Broken Window policy (even Jaimie agrees with it) - and per usual the black councilwoman who complains about it (played by Whoopi Goldberg) is portrayed as unsympathetically as possible.
While Season 5 of Breaking Bad isn't even considered bad, fans can't decide if it continued the tradition of the series getting better every season and was the best season of the whole series, or was the weakest season of the whole series and was kinda boring.
Note that this only applies to the first half of Season 5, 5A. Season 5B on the other hand has been almost universally hailed by fans and critics alike as possibly the best season of the series, and one of the greatest final seasons ever broadcast.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer, around Season 4, and then again around Season 6. There's a sizable contingent who think Buffy should've never left high school, as well as a (comparatively smaller) group who prefer the more realistic and emotionally nuanced later series.
Then there's the Buffy/Angel fans vs. the Buffy/Spike fans, and those who are Buffy/Riley fans.
... and the people who didn't like Tara hooking up with Willow (Suddenly Sexuality, Bi the Way, or plain ol' character development?). Or Tara dying in a gut-wrenching, not to mention highly improbable, manner and Willow delving into complete evil madness over it, some of whom don't even consider anything past that episode canon anymore, and make the oft-overused (and possibly malaproped) term "rabid fan" actually make perfect logical sense.
With regard to Tara and Willow, a lot of that was because of Tara being seen as a Replacement Scrappy for Oz, an extremely popular character. Over time, Tara ended up just as, if not more, popular, though, and Tara/Willow and Oz/Willow fans made peace in order to take out The Scrappy Kennedy when she became Willow's next girlfriend.
One way to start a ferocious fight with Buffy fans is about the episode in Season 7 where Buffy is kicked out of her house and ask whether it was justified. Likely because the writers had made Buffy extremely unlikable by this point but also made the characters closest to her unusually inclined to have her hit the curb despite an apocalypse going on. It also doesn't help that the writers gave every indication that Buffy was in the wrong with wanting to go back after Caleb (he shows earlier how he's nudging her into a trap), and then do a complete 180° and show that she just happened to be right with her theory, even though it made no sense (why are the bad guys spending energy digging up a weapon that is no use to them and can only hurt them?!?). So, this is completely driven by the writers.
And then there's the whole Satsu thing in the Season 8 comics and... actually, you know what? Let's just say Buffy has a tendency to cause this every single arc, and often multiple times in the same arc, frequently with character deaths and/or pairings, and be done with it.
Faith is a strong base breaker as well, depending on whether her redemption took for some people, and whether you liked her before her Face–Heel Turn in the first place.
The infamous feud between Shannen Doherty and Alyssa Milano still causes heated debates among Charmed fans to this day, despite the fact that the two actresses seem to be at peace with one another now.
A lot of this stems from complaints about the show becoming Lighter and Softer after Pru's death.
Community: Did the show quality nosedive after Dan Harmon left as showrunner? Was it already starting to fall apart even when Harmon was still working on it thanks to several behind-the-scenes trouble (such as his infamous feud with Chevy Chase) and the fourth season is just carrying on the mediocrity? Or alternatively, did it start to improve after Harmon left?
CSI suffered this after Grissom and Sara became an Official Couple. It settled down for a while after Grissom left, then flared up again after trouble popped up in the ship. Half the fandom wants immediate reconciliation and is yelling Ruined Forever, the other half just never wants to hear of the ship again.
The post-Grissom era did it to an extent as well, dividing the Langston fans from the Langston dislikers. Things have smoothed out somewhat now, though there are still arguments from time to time over whether or not D.B.'s family is hogging too much screentime and liking or hating Finn.
CSI NY has gotten into the picture as well with the pairing up of Danny and Lindsay. There are plenty of Tweets and TV magazine questions, plus a DL forum that show it's popular, but the other half of the fandom totally hates it, complaining about character development, screen time with other characters, whether or not it's believable, ect.
There's a multi-way break over Mac's girlfriends because there are so many Mac/Stella and Mac/Jo shippers around. Peyton was disliked quite a bit anyway, but Aubrey and now Christine have gotten some complaints since then. And there's also apparently a handful that think there can't be another Claire and Mac should stay alone.
CSI: Miami in general. Half the CSI Verse fans enjoy it and the other half can't stand David Caruso.
Dark Angel is basically two completely different shows. Fans of the first season have one set of heroes, villains, central themes, and canon; fans of the second have quite a different set with shocking little overlap. Jensen Ackles is an especially polarising figure even in the tiny sect of the fanbase that enjoys both seasons.
Degrassi has a fandom divide between the 'original cast' (Seasons 1 to 7) and the 'new cast' (Seasons 7 to present). While the general rallying cry of the former is 'the Show should have ended when J.T. died', the issue has very little to do with the character. The former believes that the latter cast are poorly hidden copies, the latter believes that the new cast is a superior second attempt. Both sides do generally agree Seasons 7 and 8 sucked.
Dexter is divided between people who were saddened by Rita's murder and those who thought the character was incredibly annoying.
And those who thought that Lila was mysterious, sexy, and a great addition, versus those who thought she was a psychopathic, obsessive, overly dramatic stalker.
Also later on, the fans were divided with a vocal part absolutely abhorring Dexter's relationship with Hannah McCay, and others that liked her. Oh and... don't even mention the series' ending if you're not looking to die in the crossfire of a fan war.
A Different World, after Season 1, and whether or not the later seasons are better than Season 1. and of course the fandom wars of Denise and Dwayne, VS. Dwayne and Whitley.
Winifred 'Freddie' Brooks (who was also a hippie and a Soap Box Sadie). This was realistically (or cynically) toned down when she became a lawyer, getting her hair straightened and becoming more dispassionate and cynical as a person.
Dwayne Wayne went from being a nerd with a crush on Denise Huxtable, to a super hip and cool teacher other students looked up to within a short period of time.
Likewise with Whitley Gilbert, who was the stuck-up, snobbish, rich southern princess, and then turned into a compassionate teacher and love interest of Dwayne. This is likely due to the fact that Lisa Bonet left a huge hole in the show when she left (the show was originally built around her character), so the writers were forced to make Whitley do a arguably unconvincing Heel–Face Turn in a short amount of time.
The change to Jaleesa has the same division. With fans saying she was such a strong and independent woman, Being older, going back to school, getting over a marriage. and then they made her into an almost 50s stereotype. She was strong in the first few seasons. By the last season she was barefoot, pregnant, hormonal, and in the kitchen. Others liked that she got a family, while otheres Take a Third Option and said the writers should have let her have a career first, before more or less abandoning her entire premise, THEN give her a family.
Downton Abbey has the sisters Mary and Edith, both of whom are passionate contenders in The Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry. Mary is a rather cold woman who nevertheless is thoughtful and generous towards those she deems "her favourites" (Anna, Carson, Sybil), whilst Edith is the well-meaning but overlooked middle child who is bitterly jealous of her older sister. In other words, both of them are three-dimensional characters who bring out the absolute worst in each other, though they are much nicer individuals when they're separated. And yet rather than just concede that both of them have done terrible things to each other, much of the fan-base will take the side of one and refuse to consider her as anything but a long-suffering saint whilst giving the other the Ron the Death Eater treatment.
Falling Skies eventually got one toward the end of Season 1. It doesn't help that the show has a identity crisis. On one hand the show wants to be a gritty post-apocalyptic survival alien invasion story. On the other hand it veers dangerously close to the Cozy Catastrophe category usually ignoring the survival elements, not to mention the science fiction. So naturally the base would be broken.
The Mason family is also polarizing.
There's also the character Pope, cool, Only Sane Man, badass or tired, rebel, loner cliche?
The show also have a stigma of killing off none white characters. Most Poc on the show are generally Red Shirts, or Mauve Shirts.
Season 3-4 has also gotten a little too fantastical or over the top plot wise.
Family Feud: Was Richard Dawson or Ray Combs the better host?
Fear the Walking Dead: After three seasons in, it became chalk full of division and base breakers. Probably as far back as season one.
Is Madison a female counter part to Rick, or a counterpart to Shane? The last comparison is not a compliment.
Frasier: Having Niles and Daphne get together is a source of debate for the fans. Some think it didn't work; not because it was a bad idea, merely because the plots written for them were not as entertaining or amusing as the earlier Unresolved Sexual Tension ones.
Others think them finally getting together marked a sharp upturn in quality and dimensionality in the already-great series.
Friends: Ross's actions after his and Rachel's infamous break. Rachel states that they should "take a break... from us". She later states that she meant this as time to cool off and reevaluate their own feelings before discussing their relationship problems, but Ross takes it as a breakup, especially when he calls her talk later that night and guy he's been paranoid about her cheating with is the one to pick up her phone. Hurt and drunk, Ross has a One Night Stand, which a furious Rachel takes as cheating. Ross, on the other hand, repeatedly and vociferously disagrees. Did Ross cheat on Rachel?
The entire Ross/Rachel relationship. Some love it for being a great Will They or Won't They?, Opposites Attract plot and believe its an epic love story. Others think it's an unrealistic and unrewarding Masochism Tango of two unsuited people who treat each other horribly. The split is probably highlighted by the younger, newer fans who, thanks to Seinfeld Is Unfunny, find Will They or Won't They? plots over-used in TV and the Give Geeks a Chance mantra cliche. The relationships also draws ire from Monica/Chandler fans, who find the 'Lobsters' reputation as the 'greatest couple ever' undeserving when the Mondler relationship lasted six times as long, worked better together and had a greater impact on the group dynamic.
Season 4 of The CW/BET's The Game. The lack of the comedic characters Tee Tee, Tasha, Jason, and Kelly didn't help. The Flanderization of several characters was also a reason for concern.
Game of Thrones started to show signs of this in the second season. The show is basically low fantasy, but when actual magic and similar things showed up people started to complain, especially when the shadow creature was born. Keep in mind the series fanbase isn't all made up of fans of the books.
There are a few viewers who claim the show is moving too slow or is going nowhere fast. While others say they like the slow burn. After 2 episodes of Season 6 an opposing group of fans started saying it's moving too fast.
The differing characterization of certain characters has been a major case. The Adaptational Villainy of Stannis Baratheon, one of the most popular characters, has been particularly controversial. The writers' criticism of him in the "Inside the Episode" features has fueled more controversy, especially when they showed inconsistencies with the actual show. Particularly as his ignominious defeat and death in Season 5 is basically the exact opposite of the books, where Stannis looks set to defeat the Boltons, especially as Martin has confirmed Stannis is still alive in the books.
The treatment of the Tyrells. Some people like it, thinking it fleshes out Margaery Tyrell more and shows more of the political intrigue. Others think the added Tyrell scenes, especially in S4 and S5, aren't that important to the overall plot and are basically pandering to the base. Then the scenes of Margaery sexually manipulating Tommen are very contentious due to Tommen's unclear age (especially as he continues acting like a child) making Margaery seem like a sexual abuser, especially as their relationship in the books is non-sexual due to Tommen's age. And while the Tyrells are important to the plot, some people think their emphasis is annoying as it takes too much time away from other significant characters, such as Stannis. Then there's their Adaptational Heroism, taking away a lot of the moral ambiguity of the books.
While he is one of the most popular book characters, Tyrion Lannister's Adaptational Heroism is also a source of contention, taking away many of his sleazier and dishonorable aspects and, like the Tyrells, removing the moral ambiguity.
The scene in Season 5 where Ramsayrapes Sansa is very controversial, partially since though happening in the books, it's to another character. Changing this character to Sansa is seen as wasting Sansa's Vale plot and introducing plot holes in regards to Littlefinger's plans. It's even been pointed out that the Northern storyline has had its direction completely changed by the S5 attempt at it, and Ramsay raping his wife is basically one of the only things that remains in.
The political intrigue of Westeros vs. the sword and sorcery stuff.
Season 5 is an incredibly polarizing season for a lot of reasons, the Stannis reason mentioned above being one. The only thing people can agree on is that "Hardhome" was an awesome episode.
There are some who believe the world outside of Westeros is far more interesting than what's going on at Kings Landing or anywhere in Westeros for that matter, like Valyria, Southeros, or the far East. Other fans seems to be more interested in Kingslanding because of all the political machinations are there. It might be related to the political intrigue vs. sword and sorcery stuff mentioned above.
There's also Blame Game hand-wringing over the choices certain characters made in the show. Nothing seems to bring out the armchair generals/strategists/politicians like characters making tough morally gray decisions. For instance:
Robb Stark. Was the way he handled the Lord Karstark situation the right move or not? Most believe Caitlyn put him in a no-win situation. There's a sizable contingent who also think the Freys would have betrayed Robb regardless of whom he married or not.
Then there's Lord Rickard Karstark himself. A understandably grieving father who has a right to be angry, or a selfish idiot who screwed over the north?
There's also some who believe Littlfinger's plan makes no sense. Another group believed it made sense...at first, then the writers screwed it up with Ramsay Bolton. Turning him into a Spanner in the Works.
Did Daenerys do the right thing freeing the slaves, or was she wasting time and hindering her own progress?
People see the Umbers betrayal as dumbfounding. Considering how they lost men at the Red Wedding why would they work with the Boltons? However others point out there's a new younger lord ruling house Umber (SmallJon Umber) who cares more about stopping wildlings, so his agenda might not matches GreatJon Umber (the previous lord). Even in that context that explanation is hard to swallow considering how much the north values honor and loyalty. It also probably throws water on the whole "northern conspiracy" storyline. Which in of itself upset some people.
Edmure Tully surrendering riverun is also polarizing. Some think of him as a coward. While others think he did the right thing and probably saved thousands of lives.
Sansa Stark's refusal of Littlefinger's help. Some say this was stupid, while others see it as understandable considering the type of person Littlefinger is.
Bryden Blackfish Tully his stubbornness was either righteous and admirable, Or he was a old soldier who was being a selfish old man who did not care who died in his army. Some take a third opition and believe he was a hero, but was too old fashion and from a different time.
Ramsay Snow/Bolton: Great villain or one step away from being a cartoon character, his Villain Sue status earning him the nickname from some fans of Ramsay Sue. It doesn't help that Ramsay keeps winning implausible victories, such as crippling the army of the brilliant military commander Stannis Baratheon with the infamous aforementioned "20 good men", which is basically the opposite of the books, where Ramsay's utter evil and violent way of thinking is deconstructed and shown to make him actually a really incompetent figure. Finally when Ramsay is defeated it isn't due to any fault of his own, but a larger army suddenly showing up when Ramsay had almost defeated the opposing force.
Like Ramsay, Euron is starting to get this. Mostly because of his aforementioned "Magical Fleet" that was built out of nowhere.
So is Jaime Lannister redeemable or nah?
Was Danny justified executing Randell, and Dickon?
The whole handling of the Dorne story arc. Book fans thinking the sand snakes was screwed over by terrible writers. Completely destroying complex strong smart women. TV fans don't get their importance and think the characters are a waste of time that could be used to focus on better characters. Who those "better" characters are is also up for debate.
How the Dorne plotline was anticlimactically finished off in season 7 is also starting to divide fans. Even the people who hated the Dorne subplot found it baffling how it was just ended.
The omission of Arianne Martell really annoyed some fans and critics. Some thought that leaving her out wouldn't hurt the story. On the other hand her story was critical to the Dorne story arc.
People also thought the actors involved was criminally wasted. Especially Indira Varma, and Alexander Siddig. Others have a hard time caring likely cause the show didn't properly handle the characters, it doesn't help that TV fans are already unfamiliar with Dorne and it's importance. It opinions varies in regard to the Sand Snake actors though.
For the first time ever people get to see the legendary Ser Auther Dayne in the Show. However reactions was surprisingly mixed. Some thought the dual wielding Dayne was bad ass, and the scene overall was the best swordplay out of the whole series. While others hated the fact he didn't have his Sole named ancestral sword called "Dawn" from the books, and thought him being a dual swordsman was stupid.
There's lots of debate over whether or not the children of the forest are really allies to man, or just simply pragmatic.
The origin of the White Walkers also causes debates. Especially in regards to the indentity of the Night's King.
So is the Telltale game canon or nah?
Theres also the issue of "Pay Off" vs. "Fanservice" in regards to The death of The High Sparrow, the Frey's, the Boltons etc. For example some feel that segments of the fanbase might be misinterpreting G.R.R. Martin's work. He's known for defying tropes. But he's not full on nihilistic and thats not what he's going for, more trying to perform a Reconstruction of the Fantasy genre. Some even saying that D&D are cheating so the bad guys can win, when in the book everybody gets screwed over. On the other hand there's also some out there wondering if Benioff & Weiss are just slipping up and betraying the show's founding principles when they decided to buck the trend around season 6. By giving certain viewers too much of what they want whatever that may be. Catharsis Factor be damned.
In relations to the Political Intrigue vs. Sword & Sorcery stuff mentioned above, People are split over the seeming direction of the plot. Basically it looks like Cercie MIGHT be the end game instead of the White Walkers. For some that makes more sense, considering there's more emotional investment there. Other fans feel that would be incredibly anticlimactic. Considering the hype that was built up over The War for the Dawn.
Also despite the fact that some fans argue that the showrunners probably want to keep Cersei around because of emotional investment, several other fans points out that not taking her out when Danny had the chance makes no strategic sense In-Universe. Even the argument about civilians not tolerating Danny for burning down K.L. doesn't hold water for some considering that they did nothing after Cersei blew up the Sept along with several other southern lords.
So was Rhaegar Targaryen a romantic honorable character or nah?
His background seems....complex. People seem to be 50/50 on him. For example, because of him, Ellia had it bad. After giving him two sons, Rhaegar insults her in public by making Lyanna the Queen of roses, then Annuls his marriage to Ellia, making her children bastards. After this she is held hostage by the mad king, so that Dorne can help fight for a cause that isnt theirs anymore, then her children are killed in front of her and she is raped with the brains of her son on the rapists hand, after this she is stabbed fifteen times and her head is crushed in. It makes some dislike Rhaegar deeply, and think he should have kept it in his pants, some detractors also believe he's the REAL reason for the whole conflict in the tv show. But on the other hand, some fans don't think Rhaegar's story is supposed to leave you thinking of him one way or another. Romantic, warrior, bookish, flawed enabler, reckless betrothal breaker, unfaithful husband. From what is known, his life was a bit complicated and shrouded in certain conjecture and mysteries. He studied old Targaryen lore and seemed to believe in certain magical prophecies (and one apparently was that he needed to have 3 children and Elia had complications in her second birth making a third child not possible). It seemed he was trying to oust Aerys for a good bit (even Aerys thought so) until Rhaegar let Lyanna steal him from that, leaving the kingdom to descend into war. His life is a weird mix of real promise if he had ousted Aerys or even just survived the war and also a lot of whys and negligence and mistake. Jaime said book Rhaegar apologized for not removing the Mad King and promised to do so when he came back from the Trident: "When the battle's done I mean to call a council. Changes will be made. I meant to do it long ago, but ... well, it does no good to speak of roads not taken. We shall talk when I return." Famous last GoT words. So far though, there's no definitive motive for anything he did prior to the events of the show..yet
To a lesser extent Lyanna get the same defenders and detractors, for the same reasons.
A huge one regarding Jon and Danny. People are almost evenly split over their Ship Tease (Now relationship).
Season 7 is more or less just as divisive as season five now, for waaay too many reason to even list.
Whether or not Tyrion was stupid for not allowing Danny to attack king's landing when she had the chance. Some believe he's subconsciously holding back. Something Danny brings up In Universe.
A lot of people see Jon's plan to capture a wight as not only a Zany Scheme but an excuse for the writers to kill off one of Daenery's dragons.
... and then there's Spinelli, who some regard as a refreshing change to a Soap Opera where everyone is perfect and pretty, and others decry as being the Scrappiest Scrappy who ever Scrapped. And then they tried to hook him up with Maxie, and the latter howled. Then they tried to hook him up with another geek... and everyone howled.
Because Glee can alternate rapidly between campy, screwball comedy ("Vitamin D") and more serious episodes ("Preggers," "Mattress") there is a bit of a schism in the fanbase between viewers who watch it for the zany, off-the-wall moments, and those who watch it for the deeper, more dramatic storylines. As the AV Club's Todd VanDerWerff (who is firmly of the latter camp) puts it: "There are times when I suspect that the reasons I like Glee are singularly unlike most of the reasons shared by the, sigh, Gleeks." It's not much of an issue yet, but could become one as the show goes on and decides where exactly in the Sliding Scale of Idealism vs. Cynicism it fits.
Van Der Werff himself tends to note inhisreviews that the three creators/writers tend to consistently present different approaches to the series: Ryan Murphy is interested in (somewhat purposely) ridiculous soap opera plotting based on old after-school specials; Ian Brennan in finding the small moments of happiness in a sad world full of failure (a la Freaks and Geeks); and Brad Falchuk serves as a compromise, attempting to fit ridiculous moments into a realistic world filled with deep characters (compared by Van Derwerff to Buffy). Though most fans don't tend to notice the specific differences between the writers, some have noted their preference for certain levels of realism in the show.
There's a divide forming based on whether fans prefer the first or second half of Season 1. The first 13 episodes of the show were mostly produced prior to the series beginning to air, while the next 9 (four of which have aired as of this addition) followed a four-month broadcast hiatus. As a result, musical numbers have increased from as little as one or two large sequences per episode to usually one per act following the hiatus (at the arguable risk of time devoted to story); fan favorite, sometime-antagonist and fan-favorite Sue was pushed to the foreground and given her own songs, while characters like Artie, Tina, and Quinn had less screen-time; and an overall dark, satirical tone (the pilot, for instance, had a teacher plant weed on a student to blackmail him into joining glee, and characters regularly lied about pregnancies or had unhappy marriages) with small moments of happiness, replaced by a brighter, cheerier tone.
As the show has gone on into its second season, it's become so hard to find anything that fans won't fight to the death over that it's probably just best to regard Glee fandom as a base not so much broken as splintered beyond all hope of repair...
To emphasize that point, Glee has one of the longest YMMV pages of any series on this site.
And of course a mention must be given to the events at the end of 'Mash Off', where even attempts to remain neutral will be doomed to fiery failure.
While most fans of can agree that Seasons 3 and 4 was Seasonal Rot, fans are now split to whether Season 5 had finally shown an improvement, or was the worst season of the whole series so far. And then of course there are the fans that just look past goofs and inconsistencies and just enjoy every season as they come.
Gossip Girl: The Chair vs. Dair wars have officially come out into the open after episode 4x17. Before that, it was low level skirmishes, but with threats of Chair fans abandoning the show, it's going to be interesting what the fans of other ship bases, not just Dair, will do. With Word of God retracting earlier endgame pronouncements, it is an open field for war.
Actually Word of God has assured fans that the previously proclaimed endgame Chuck and Blair is still on, thought that might be a reaction to the Dan/Blair storyline causing the largest drop in ratings the show has ever had to the point where the show might not survive unless the Chair fans return.
Since the Dair and Chair shipping bases are roughly equal now, the writers have decided on the brilliant compromise of having Blair be (whinily and angstily) unable to choose between them, causing widespread hatred for her previously fan-favourite character and quite a few people from both ships to abandon the entire show, though the Chair shippers seem to be fleeing faster.
Unfortunately for the writers, it turned out that the Dair fans were merely a loud minority and that the Dair arc caused so much damage to the show that it never recovered. By the time they abandoned (and more or less denounced) the Dan/Blair relationship, most of the casual fans had left and the Dair shippers weren't exactly thrilled to keep on watching. Then they went into the last season with Chuck and Blair technically together but vowing not to physically be together in any form until the end of the season. Shockingly, this did not lure Chair supporters back in.
Grey's Anatomy fans (even the cast and crew for that matter) are split over the departure of Isiah Washington. This has made many vicious Flame Wars. Some arguments going to places they don't need to go. Essentially becoming flame bait for both homophobic AND racist Jerk Asses.
Ironically Isiah's adversaries T.R. Knight, and Katherine Heigl are starting to split fans.
Heigl was actually always polarizing. (Like Washington) Her negative reputation preceded her, going as far back as Roswell.
The death of Derek Shepherd, which was almost immediately followed by a truly epic, absolutely vitriolic case of Internet Backdraft has since become a highly divisive issue. Some fans see it as the ultimate insult, given that the Meredith/Derek relationship has been central to the show since the very beginning, and Derek's death was sudden, unceremonious and that Meredith did not have a moment to say goodbye, which many found to be incredibly disrespectful. Many fans state frankly that he shouldn't have been killed off at all, even if Patrick Dempsey planned to leave, and argue that Derek should've simply been written out. However, others argue that that outcome would have in fact been the disrespectful one given that Dempsey wanted out of his contract a year early (which calls to mind Katherine Heigl's infamous behavior in the sixth season, but that's another debate), and that having Derek completely abandon his wife and two children would've been horribly out of character. While nobody is happy with the outcome, some are willing to begrudgingly accept that it was the best solution to the real life problem, and others will not accept that a better outcome could not have been found.
The Heroes fandom seems to be suffering from this — many fans are very loud about the fact that they preferred the Season 1 style/format over Seasons 2 and 3.
Much like with Mary in Silent Hill 2 it seems the fans can't decide whether the show they loved has been dead for three years, a few months or whether it still lives on.
There were those of us who thought that it became sick and had a shot at recovering until the WGA strike killed it. It was in a coma for half a season, and began to show signs of life before it outright died. Season 4 (for those who were still watching by this point) was like Season 1 resurrected and learning to be great again before being mistaken for a zombie by NBC and being shot down. This group was the very small minority who actually watched all the way to the end, and are hanging onto their seats for the rumoured wrap-up TV movie.
Speaking of Season 4 of Heroes, there was a massive divide during its production in regards to Claire Bennet's fanbase about the implications about her becoming a lesbian/bisexual, some seemed to praise the decision to have her "come out of the closet" while others claimed that there was absolutely no hint that she even had any attractions to the same sex in prior seasons, and in some cases, even in Season 4, and claimed that it was just a desperate marketing ploy and just overall bad writing.
Homeland for the same reason as The Killing. The way the first season ended really irritated some fans.
Strangely enough the status quo was surprisingly averted in the second season. Some believe the negative reaction to The Killing brought this about.
Whether or not Carrie is a well written female character, also discussed in this Cracked video.
Was Season 4 all the way solid, or was it an awesome season ruined by a underwhelming finale?
The finale puts all nine years of base breaking to shame. You have the group who thinks it was a clever and fitting ending vs. those who found it a rather cynical ending to a generally optimistic show. Then there's the shippers: the group who is delighted that Ted and Robin end up together vs. the group who is angry over the Mother's abrupt death and the sudden destruction of the Barney/Robin ship. There's even another group who believes that almost everyone was so united in hating it that they set aside any other differences they had. There were still the tiny group of people who liked it, but the base was a lot less broken than it was before.
iCarly has the Seddie vs Creddie war. Whilst Shipping tends to do this anyway, this Sam/Freddie vs Carly/Freddie divide slowly built up during Season 1, then went nuclear halfway through the second season as of the "iKiss" episode which had Sam and Freddie share a First Kiss. Things go downhill from there. The 2 shipping factions have their own exclusive forums, the fandom as a complete 'whole' doesn't exist any more, as the size of the Seddie fandom swamps and over-runs any integrated community super quickly.
Iron Fist (2017): Danny's race is a hot-button topic, as there is a divide among fans over whether Danny should have stayed Caucasian or become Asian-American. For this first half the base , keeping Danny white avoids stereotyping as him being Asian would mean the only Marvel/Netflix Asian lead is, of course, a martial artist. The second half of the base argues that Danny being white is an example of Mighty Whitey and essentially amounts to cultural appropriation as Danny essentially takes the culture of a foreign people and makes it his own. They also find the idea of an Asian-American returning to his father's homeland and reluctantly embracing the culture he descended from, exploring the duality of being a second-generation US immigrant, a more interesting story that resonates with many Asian-American viewers. The first half then point out that that's exactly what the white Danny does as he is raised from childhood in a pseudo-Asian culture and then returns to his homeland in adulthood.
JAG: Some fans argue passionately about who was the best female lead: Andrea Parker, Tracey Needham or Catherine Bell. Sine Bell starred in 9 out of 10 seasons some people see this debate as moot. Parker was hired for the Pilot episode but NBC did not want her for the series so Donald P. Bellisario was forced to hire Needham. When the show moved to CBS for the second season, Bellisario didn't want to keep Needham, but Parker had already been cast in a lead role in The Pretender and was thus unavailible. Bellisario took a gambit and hired an unknown actress (Bell) who'd had a small role in the last Season 1 episode, and the rest is history...
Opinions obviously varied when the comic relief characters Bud and Harriett suffered the tragedy of Harriett giving birth to a stillborn child. Some viewed it as an unnecessarily cruel hand dealt to two undeserving characters while others saw it as a well executed dramatic twist that kicked off dialog on an issue many people are reluctant to talk about in real life.
The sudden retirement of Admiral Chegwidden following Season 9.
Jericho fans have an interesting twist in who is responsible for the nuts campaign that saved the show. The two main groups involved both claim credit for running a successful campaign and for the idea of sending in Nuts something that happened in a chat room right after the show aired. Although which chat room is hotly debated with supporters of Shaun O'mac saying it started in his chat and the supporters of Schumi claiming it started in Jeritopia. Both sides accuse the other of using the campaign for their own gain or trying to control the fandom. This is what led to the second campaign failing(without an effective leader any attempts fell apart) and why much of the fandom simply drifted away after the second season ended. Also if you are ever asked your favourite couple from the show was Stanley/Mimi because stating you like either Jake/Emily or Jake/Heather is risky. Also there is some debate over whether the show improved in the darker later episodes or if the earlier more optimistic were better.
While we're on the subject of Toku: the group that believes Kamen Rider is becoming a Merchandise-DrivenCast Full of Pretty Boys and a one-man version of Super Sentai (with — god forbid — Combining Mecha) in it's Neo-Heisei Incarnation, versus the group that enjoys the newer series for their entertainment value and believes that the shift in style is just an effect of a naturally-changing culture versus the group that hates all New Generation Kamen Rider series and believes that the Old Generation stuff (read, the Heisei-era series from Agito to Kiva) is vastly superior in every single way.
Kamen Rider Den-O has gotten this, mostly thanks to Toei turning it into a Franchise Zombie. This has lead some to hate the series, seeing it as the Creator's Pet of the franchise. Others still enjoy the show for its merits, even if they agree that it needs to be given a respectful Grand Finale and then put to rest. Everyone agrees that shoving The HeroOut of Focus in favor of the goofy sidekicks is stupid, though.
Kamen Rider Decade: A fair attempt at a Milestone Celebration which looked back at older shows and reminded people of why they were awesome, or a poorly-written, Merchandise-Driven piece of crap that Worfed past Riders in order to make the new guy look good? Not helped with it's main writer being fired mid-way through the series conception so NOTHING it was originally trying to do EVER had any closure. The only consensus with Decade, is It's "Hibiki" tribute arc was good, simply because it was meant as an APOLOGY from the arc's writer's to fans of that entry over what happened in it's second half.
It has mostly died down in the wake of the aforementioned breaks in the base, but back in the early 00s there was a sharp divide between the Showa-era fans and the Heisei-era fans of Kamen Rider. Outsiders in the mess think the issue was The former disliked the Darker and Edgier direction the series took starting with Kuuga, but Showa fans point out that those entries actually included a fair amount of dark and mature stories more modern series never even came close to touching; Kuuga being treated as a Distilled version of all that, and keeping with Shotaro Ishinomori's original vision. "AGITO" was more beginning the Base Breaking in how it attempted to call back to Ishinomori elements of rebellion and evolution, but with it not really saying or leading TO anything, many characters acting as awful people with no reason to such, and it's Proposed Idea's conflicted with the more beloved Kuuga. But the crux of the issue eventually came to be Ryuki, for being a massive Oddball in the Series that was declared to be Kamen RiderIn-Name-Only due to how it conflicted ideologically with the franchise in having Kamen Riders now all being Villains and it's title character being an Inept and emasculated hero. This was a result of it's Head writer Yasuko Kobayashi treating Kamen Rider as a whole with open Contempt (which followed into her writing of Den-O, OOO and Amazons), and Producer Shinichiro Shirakura was seeking to "Destroy any Prior depiction of Kamen Rider". Ironically Agito's head writer and Ryuki's Cowriter, Toshiki Inoue (Son of Masaru Igami, who WROTE most of Showa kamen Rider), went to open war with Kobayashi in the series' development and did everything he could to sabotage her direction of the series. This conflict in both the fandom and creator-wise eventually died down and Ryuki some consider it Vindicated by History due to a lot of Kamen Rider series after it borrowing a lot from it (including the immediately succeeding 555), but most continuing detractors point out that series after Ryuki did what it Did better WITHOUT disrespecting the spirit of the franchise....including it's Adaptation Kamen Rider Dragon Knight.
After Ryuki, however, there's Kamen Rider Gaim, which managed to be even darker than the already dark Ryuki - the base was broken before the series aired because of who the writer wasnote ironically, Gaim is partially based on the Warring States era of Japanese history. While the debate about how the rider suits look is nothing new, things unique to Gaim is if it's too darknote up until season 2 of Kamen Rider Amazons, it was the darkest live-action Kamen Rider series that had been made, even topping Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue, if the the large cast was a good thing or not, and the Bitter Sweet Ending. Not even fansubs were safe, since Aesir subs translating Sengoku Driver as Wärring Driver, despite the word 'Sengoku' not actually translating as 'warring', 'warring states' being a western colloquialism for the Sengoku period for a word that has no actual translation as 'sengoku' is a loan-word proper noun originating from China to describe a specific type of feudal conflict.note Irritating many, they also extended this to the character Ryoma Sengoku, who the drivers were named after. Later, the same group translated Gridon as Ornacnote Gridon is a re-arrangement of Donguri, the Japanese word for Acorn caused a huge argument in the fanbase, causing the creation of 4 other fansub groups solely dedicated to subbing Gaimnote although one group later used Gaim as a jump-off point to sub Kamen Rider Blade.
Amazons/Amazonz has become another base-breaking series. First, It's produced by Shinichiro Shirakura, the Toei producer most of the fandom Loathes due to him screwing Over Hibiki. Second, Yasuko Kobayashi was it's writer, and on top of the previously cited Rider ideology contempt listed above she at the time was in a notoriously long slump of bad writing work. Third, they were doing a rebooted Version of Kamen Rider Amazon, the fourth Rider series that was while beloved by Showa fans was screwed over back in the day by parent watch groups for it's 'graphic violence and abnormal hero' and forcibly cancelled. The last time they rebooted a classic rider show, we got two movies for Ichigo/Nigo and V3 that are near-universally hated in the fandom. Factor in the annual spring 'Taisen" movies and the events of Decade, and pretty much any Heisei-era work utilizing showa-era characters has been horrid. Fourth, Shirakura's statement in the press announcement for the show threw under the bus every kamen Rider series he didn't have a hand in, despite all of them being far more successful financially for Toei and more beloved than anything he'd ever touched; all of which only serve to further ostracise the fandom. And fifth; it was clear this was only being made to appeal to the Audience of Garo, whch has boomed as a multimedia giant aimed explicitly at adult audiences. And that's just going into the series conceptually. During it's production it was revealed Amazons took priority in resource allocation over the currently-running Kamen rider shows, Ghost for 2016 and Ex-Aid for 2017; both larger-earning series which paid toei's bills, but during the period where Amazons was in production/Filming, those shows were stripped bare until they ended. While the Ex-aid staff were able to plan for this and had been allocated less to begin with; In Ghost's case, it led to it's very rocky first half dropping into a death spiral of bad storytelling, as they had none of the resources (suits, location-shoots, etcetera) to tell the story they had been building to. Even Ghost's Final form debut was NOT spared this, as on the day of shooting...the suit wasn't even DONE, and wouldn't actually show up until two episodes after. Getting to The actual Amazons Show? Watchers often began comparing it to Ryuki (it itself, again as stated above a base-breaking series), finding it a poor knockoff of that, with the show's gore and violence elements far over-stressed for how tame it was, and often their utilization was seen as juvenile, to say nothing of the filters which made the show unpleasant to actually watch. it's protagonist was also quickly cited, similarly to Ryuki's, as being the series Real villain as his actions only facilitated people dying. Those for the show believe it a return to the mature elements the show had lost in recent years, but others further point out...that those never left.
The last episode of Season 1 of AMC's The Killing was extremely polarizing.
Definitely the second season.
Is Linden a great character? or a emotionless robot who is unlikable.
Mitch is also very Polarizing. A traumatized mother, or a selfish whiny Angst filled bitch?
Is Holder the only likable character, or is his tweaker like, pseudo ghetto characterization annoying?
Lost. See details of the criticism here. But then again this hardly scratches the surface in some people's opinion, as there are the people who will attack the detractors with unparalleled zeal. Not to mention what season did the show go off the rail, those who think the writers are making it all up as they go along, and of course those who love the Kate/Sawyer/Jack love triangle and those who HATE it and consider it to be the bane of the show.
Most Lost fans were a very cohesive unified base at one point. Particularly around Season 1. Mostly due to sharing Wild Mass Guessing, in addition to all the alternate reality web stuff. But around Season 2 strain was starting to show (some might even say during the last leg of Season 1). People were unsatisfied with the snail pace, the over exposure of Kate/Jack/and yes even Sawyer at the expense of everyone else. What really caused the cracks was the aggressiveness and even condescending counter attacks from the defenders of the show. It got uglier, and more hostile every season.
The aforementioned internet tie-in stuff was seen as more interesting than the stuff that was in the actual show by some fans. Most was ignored by the show causing a What Happened to the Mouse? situation (for those that cared about it anyways).
The reveal about the Others. Some say it was ingenious and a great, unexpected twist, while others think it was anti-climactic and destroyed their creepiness.
The episode "Across the Sea" has definitely caused even further division.
A hilarious inversion in Merlin concerning the faithfulness of the show to the original Arthurian Legends. No one really gives a shit, but it's a valuable tool in the rampant Shipping Wars. Right from the start, the writers cherry-picked aspects of the mythology in order to create their own version of the story, whilst simultaneously toning down several of the darker aspects (unsurprisingly, there is no rape, incest or adultery). Purists stopped watching early on, but nobody else really cared until it started to have an effect on the shipping, which is broadly divided into Merlin/Arthur, Guinevere/Arthur, Lancelot/Guinevere, Merlin/Morgana and (somewhat irrelevantly) Arthur/Morgana. The tangled web of these five characters in the source material meant that any of them were a possibility, but eventually the writers whittled it down to Arthur/Guinevere as the Official Couple. This led to outrage in all other quarters, to whom the sanctity of the legends suddenly became of utmost importance. Arthur/Guinevere shippers would point out that the writers were simply following the legends when the two abruptly hooked up in the second season, using it as a defense for the ship whilst ignoring the fact that Guinevere's infidelity to Lancelot was also a distinct possibility. Meanwhile, Merlin/Arthur shippers were outraged when Guinevere didn't cheat on Arthur, despite having no problem with Merlin being played by an actor in his twenties instead of a bearded old man (because who wants to ship a young prince with an ancient grandpa?) Conversely, the Arthur/Morgana shippers were perfectly happy when the show veered away from its source material by establishing the two were non-related, but livid when it was revealed that they were actually secret half-siblings, as per the legendary account. Basically, the writers' fidelity to the legends is tantamount only when it supports one's own ship. You can thus come across fans who have used this excuse to defend some story choices, whilst simultaneously using it to deride others. At the same time.
Nine little words uttered by Merlin in Episode 5 of Season 5: "There can be no place for magic in Camelot." For some it was an inevitable and heart-rending decision; for others it was the ultimate Jump the Shark moment.
The show's portrayal Mordred in general, but particularly in Season 5. Side effect of making one of the most infamous villains of all time into a young, Adorkable fangirl magnet.
The fan community is often characterized by two distinct camps — those that prefer "Classic Vice" (the first two seasons, characterized by the pastel colors, goofy interludes from Zito and Switek and writing from Michael Mann) and those that prefer the "Moscow to Midnight/New Vice" era (the rise of the Testarossa, darker plots, more violence, darker clothing and writing from Dick Wolf). There usually isn't much middle ground on this.
Crockett's Easy Amnesia arc — a great way to shake up the series and throw the lead character into an interesting narrative arc, or the sign of a show severely past its prime?
There is a broken base between fans of the original TV series and fans who only know or like the films in the franchise. Fans in the first category enjoy the TV series more, because the comedy is more complex, experimental and sometimes less accessible than the films. To this day you will encounter people who claim to be Monty Python fans, but actually mean that they just like Monty Python and the Holy Grail or the film franchise. In some cases they may even have never heard that it was derived from a groundbreaking TV series. Naturally fans of the entire franchise will scorn these people tremendously.
Even between fans of the films there's a clear divide between people who only enjoy Monty Python and the Holy Grail and fans who like all the films. Holy Grail is generally enjoyed by most audiences, even people who are not huge Python fans, because it is a fun adventure story without too much shocking subject matter and mostly silly jokes. The amount of people that like the other films equally much is a lot lower. Partly because: 1) And Now For Something Completely Different and Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl are mostly a compilation of sketches from the TV show, which is already a lot less easy to comprehend for a general audience. 2) Monty Python's Life of Brian relies less on visual silliness than Holy Grail and devout believers can feel offended by the often blasphemous and heretical jokes. 3) Monty Python's The Meaning of Life has no real "story" and too much shocking and disgusting scenes for the general audience to appreciate.
It is worth noting that, even at the frenzied height of the debate, very few fans actually disliked Joel or Mike. This was all about who was the best.
Interestingly, study of one of the most active boards during the switch (and, more importantly, one of the few to have archived their posts, Usenet group alt.tv.mst3k), reveals comparatively little flame warring over Joel/Mike. It seems that, for at least one board, much more anger and vitriol was spilled over whether certain elements of the show were sexist and if Jim Mallon had been instrumental in "forcing" Joel out.
Mythbusters: The reboot not having either Jamie, Adam or the build team in it, and the first season is a reality TV series focusing on assembling a new team of Mythbusters. Some are just glad that the series is back, others are shouting They Changed It, Now It Sucks at the various changes and the Out-of-Genre Experience from changing one season to Reality TV.
Some people quit watching NCIS after Kate converted to Hinduism was killed and Ziva and Jenny Shepard were added to the cast. The majority came back, but many didn't and some who did continue to watch still felt the early seasons were superior to the later. Ziva (who was always something of a bone of contention) became extremely polarizing in Season 6 and is disliked or outright hated by a sizeable chunk of the audience.
Jenny Shepard as well. Some fans adored her, others loathed her, and all were vocal. There were also those that liked the character when she was first introduced and joined the hating side during the La Grenouille arc.
It's difficult to think of something Once Upon a Time fans aren't hopelessly divided on.
Regina was an awful but relatively sympathetic villain who has been redeemed and is now a good person who can't catch a break vs. the things Regina did as a villain make her irredeemable and she's deserved everything she's gotten.
Hook is a modern day Casanova who was redeemed from his villainous ways through his love for Emma vs. Hook is a walking embodiment of rape culture who only pretends to be good when Emma's around.
Emma and Hook's relationship is born of love and trust and the best relationship on the show vs. their relationship is based on lies and deceit and the writers are happy to sacrifice anything to keep it going.
Robin and Regina's relationship is adorable vs. Robin is pretty boring but it's nice to see Regina happy vs. the relationship was contrived and rushed and is turning the show into a soap opera.
Rumple and Belle have one of the most complex and enduring relationships on the show and Belle is the one thing that keeps Rumple grounded vs. Rumple and Belle's relationship is abusive and Belle was better off when Rumple was gone.
Neal's death was necessary to get rid of a boring, unpopular, and extraneous character in an already huge cast vs. Neal's death was a spur of the moment writing decision that completely ruined Rumple's characterization and was one of the worst things to ever happen to the show.
Emma and Regina have no romantic chemistry and everyone who thinks they do is wearing Shipping Goggles vs. Emma and Regina have chemistry that is probably intentional but was only done to keep the LGBT fans watching and will never be acted on vs. Emma and Regina getting together is the only endgame that makes sense.
Emma making Hook a dark one was an act of true love that saved Hook's life vs. Emma making Hook a dark one was the most selfish thing anyone on this show as ever done and an unforgivable violation of Hook's autonomy and trust.
Robin's death is a moving scene vs. it is a manipulative scene only done to make Regina loose her happy ending again.
The show hasn't been good since season one vs. the show was fine until mid-season three vs. the show is the best it's ever been vs. the show got worse around season three or four but got better around about season five or six.
Person of Interest: it looks like Carter's death has caused this in the fandom. Proclamations that people are quitting the show abound, and the ratings suggest that many of them follow through. More generally, the character of Root seems to be a Base Breaker. Saying that you like or dislike her is basically inviting a full-on flame war.
Power Rangers: Generally, the fanbase divides itself into a Five or Six-tier format: people either generally like all seasons, don't like anything after Wild Force (Season 10, the start of the Disney Era), don't like anything after In Space (Season 6), or don't like anything after Season 9 Time Force, don't like anything past the original series (Seasons 1-3), or don't like Neo-Saban (Samurai onwards). Occasionally, you will encounter holdouts who think it all sucks in comparison to the glory that is Tommy Oliver.
Whether or not to count the recut of Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers officially as Season 18. Press releases from Nickelodeon and question responses from Saban Capital Group's official Power Rangers Twitter page indicate that they both consider Samurai to officially be year/season 19; which does suggest that they, in the very least, count the recut as Season 18.
Saban later declared Samurai/Super Samurai as two seasons renumbering them 18 and 19 which settled things. Somewhat.
A battle is quickly brewing between fans of the Disney Era (Wild Force or Ninja Storm-RPM, with focus ontheKalishseasons, Base Breaker seasons themselves) vs. fans of the second Saban-Era (Samurai/Super Samurai and Megaforce/Super Megaforce). Also the acting (the seasoned New Zealand pool vs. American newcomers) between the two eras are left to debate. Others say wait until next season's adaptation before jumping into things.
Speaking of Wild Force, one particular episode (Forever Red, the 10th anniversary teamup) is a battlezone to this day, with fans debating the merits of Ahmit Baumik inserting elements from his fan-fiction into the series as canon.
Originally the above said "wait until Go-Buster's adaptation" to judge the ongoing Neo-Saban Era. Now with the news of Dino Charge adapting Kyoryuger and skipping a Sentai series for the first time, fans are divided whether or not Go-Busters should have been given a chance as a separate Power Rangers season vs. skipping an unprofitable divisive Sentai series (or any other Sentai series such as To Q Ger) to play catch up.
Further compounded by the news that ToQGer is being skipped as well in favor of adapting Ninninger as Power Rangers Ninja Steel.
And then there's the topic what a prospective third movie should be about: MMPR remake or the current season? And like before, campy movie or Darker and Edgier?
Liongate's news of an MMPR remake have made things more complicated after four years of Neo-Saban's "attempts" to recreate MMPR in Samurai and moreso, in Megaforce.
Speaking of Megaforce, when that season was announced, there was a broken base about the fact that Tensou Sentai Goseiger was being chosen for the adaptation - while Goseiger was considered a dull sentai in general by western fans, the main reason for said broken base was that Megaforce was the 20th anniversary series, yet instead of adapting the corresponding Sentai anniversary series, Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, for the 20th anniversary of Power Rangersnote while Gokaiger is the 35th anniversary of Sentai, the first Power Rangers series was adapted from Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger, the 16th sentai, Goseiger was chosennote This is due to a combination of factors - Nickelodeon forced Saban to splitSamuraiinto 2 20-episode seasons, meaning that Samurai took 2 years to finish instead of 1; second, the contract Saban had with Toei at the time prevented Saban from skipping a sentai - said contract was also the reason why Saban had to adapt the comedic Carranger into Turbo, despite the fact that footage from a series such as Jetman would have been a better fit for the type of plot that Turbo was going for. While the base was slightly calmed by the fact that it was revealed that GoseigerANDGokaiger were being adapted, the fact that Super Megaforcenote the part adapting Gokaiger still relied more and more on Goseiger footage, as opposed to just dropping itnote although the original Mighty Morphin kept the Zyuranger suits after the first season was over, they used a combination of original footage, Dairanger footage and (in the third season) Kakuranger footage ignited the debate again.
Then there's the group that contest that Super Sentai is vastly superior and that the mere act of creating an American version of the show is both racist and disrespectful to the source material. (Let's not mention that a subtitled version of Super Sentai would never achieve mass commercial success in the West and that most of the people in this camp found out about Super Sentai through — you guessed it — Power Rangers.)
Jason David Frank: portrayer of one of the greatest Power Rangers ever or an egomaniac and attention whore of the highest order?
Whether RPM was originally canon to all of power rangers, always in it's own-distaff-ed universe, or retconned into being it's own timeline by Samurai and Megaforce, which in turn (alongside Dino charge and Ninja steel)have so many continuity errors and contradictions to established past content they themselves could be out of canon with the original 17 years. Evidence on the former camp is statements from the original cast and production staff that it was never meant to be out of continuity with anything before it, the second camp siding with the official statements by Saban on the development of Samurai's Crossover and Megaforce's handwaved mentions of RPM, while the third camp points out that before Gokaiger aired in Japan, Returning showrunner Johnathan Tzachor had made statements that he didn't consider ANYTHING Disney did after he was ousted after Wild force as Canon, and was actively trying to make it so they never happened in the Neo-Saban timeline...only for The Necessity to adapt the Diseny-era suits and powers seen in Gokaiger as part of Megaforce to mess up that master plan and Thus make Power Ranger's already tumultuous Continuity even more messed up.
Dino charge has severely not helped this specific debate about Neo-Saban's Sins towards respecting franchise Continuity(Something Disney actually did a LOT of), as it's First episode features Meteoroids (said to be asteroids but as-shown in the show they are are too small to be such and could not wipe out a city with their collective mass) Killing the dinosaurs, and it's last episode making the Dinosaurs never go Extinct by then undoing that event, which thus invalidates not only Dino Thunder which got their powers from the Singular asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs, but any team who's basis is on extinct creatures like the original MMPR, AND any series which has had an episode where space-rock based death has at any time been a storypoint (In Space, Lightspeed, SPD, Overdrive, and Megaforce).
There have also been plenty of heated disputes about announcers, models, producers, sets, music, and so forth.
Prison Break. It depends for every fan, since each of the four seasons are radically different from each other (including its tone and writing quality). Some fans enjoyed all four seasons, more or less. Others dismiss Seasons 3 and 4 as unwatchable. A few viewers stopped watching after Season 1's long awaited jail break. But generally, season one is favored by the fanbase, while Season 3 is widely disliked.
There are presently ten seasons of Red Dwarf. The significant changes to cast and format, plus the breakup of the writing partnership behind the show, mean that you can pick almost any of them and find fans who regard that as the last good one, for a variety of reasons.
Fans of Roseanne almost unanimously hate the last season. The split comes from people hating it for different reasons. Some hate the fact the Conners won the lottery, changed their lifestyle and the show stopped being about a blue collar family (although this becomes a moot point when the Wham Episode aired that season). And the latter group hate the wham episode for that very reason, not really because it made the lottery win moot, but because it made the show end on a devastating Downer Ending implying that after Dan died, Rosie never realized her dream of becoming a writer. And the rest of the family is still stuck in a low income working class rut. Of course there are a few proponents whom found the "coping method" implemented by Rosie through her writing to be depressing Fridge Brilliance. As they believe there were subtle hints that their lives as rich lottery winners was fake all along.
Roswell: During Seasons 2 and 3, members of the fanbase increasingly grew divided between those who had preferred the original style (criticized by opponents as too soapy or melodramatic) versus those who preferred the newer style (criticized by opponents as too dark or convoluted).
On RuPaul's Drag Race, the usual fan divide is between those who prefer glamorous high fashion queens and sewing challenges, and those who like campy, quirky queens and acting challenges. However, things turned serious in Season 6 when the show received backlash from the transgender community over the "Female or She-Male" mini-challenge. The producers removed the offending clip, and went one step further by taking out the "You've Got She-mail" soundbite before Ru's video message at the start of each episode that cryptically describes that episode's theme, replacing it with "she done already had her's", even adding it retroactively in reruns of previous seasons. An appreciated gesture towards the transgender community, or Political Correctness Gone Mad? Fan wars over this got ugly, as it was part of the larger argument within the GLBT community that gays don't care enough about trans issues.
There are two types of Saturday Night Live fans: the ones who claim the show hasn't been good since [cast member of choice] left and who often only watch it to complain about how it isn't good anymore, and the ones who understand that the nature of the show inevitably lends itself to periods of ups and downs, and who watch anyway. The former group is something of an annoyance to the latter, since many of them claim that they "haven't watched SNL since the 70s/80s/90s" and will insult anyone who actually likes the current seasons.
Sesame Street has one involving Elmo's arrival on the show. Half of the fans think that the show was still watchable after Elmo's appearance, while the other half believe that the show was Ruined Forever after his arrival.
Smallville have those fans who want Lana Lang to be with Clark (at least in Season 1), and those who want to see Lana eviscerated, mutilated, and ground to bits. There's a separate group who finds amusement in this, pointing out that it doesn't matter since Clark will just end up with Lois in the end.
In later seasons, the Lana division wore off (the disdain for Lana is the majority consensus now) in favor of a vocal group of fans who still believe Chloe is "the real Lois", and want to see Erica Durance's Lois Lane die in a fire and for Chloe to assume her identity in order to get together with Clark. But arguably, the obvious squickishness and creepiness of someone assuming a deceased cousin's identity and living her life is something that doesn't seem to be addressed in this theory.
Then there are some disgruntled Chlarkers who actually think that even Clark, the future Superman, isn't good enough for the supposedly-saintly Chloe anymore, and that the only reason they should get together is because anyone else would be even less deserving of Chloe. Or that he could be a part of her superpowered harem.
Some fans think the show is just tired and stale now, while some others think the show has gotten better. As can be predicted, each season and each major character (Clark, Lois, Chloe, Lana, Kara, Ollie, Lex...) has both its fans and detractors.
The Smallville fanbase has been divided between those who think that Chloe and Oliver are the best couple in the show's history and that they should stay romantically involved vs. those who point out that Ollie ends up with Black Canary in the comics. Even so, most of the mythos supporters generally didn't hate Chlollie. In fact, the Chlollie ship was so widely beloved (or at least received comparably less hate than most other ships) that even the showrunners seemed reluctant to break them up. Finally, the showrunners came up with a compromise in the final episode: Chloe is seen 7 years after the events of the series reading a story to a young boy who appears to almost definitely be her and Ollie's son. However, the show leaves it ambiguous and open-ended whether she and Oliver are actually still together romantically or not. The comic sequel did away with that ambiguity, firmly establishing that Chloe and Olliver got married and became parents.
Also some hated the 90's, but not because they were the 90's, but because it never fully embraced the 90's. The 90's era never really embraced Hip Hop (neither did the 80's for that matter). It did marginally better with other urban genres like New Jack Swing. But over all the 90's was not a huge pop culture reference pool like the Seventies and Eighties eras were, essentially alienating the black MTV generation. Because of this people think this is what led to the show's downfall.
Stargate SG-1 is complicated, everyone puts their own marker for exactly where it went wrong somewhere different if they even believe it did. There are a few key events that tend to mark the large general shifts in the show dividing it into three compartments. Basically you have the age of Apophis making up the first few seasons, then the post Apophis period (the start of which is signified by his actual death in the prime timeline) which is known most for Anubis and everything related and finally the Ori arc which starts in Season 9 and sees the introduction of an entirely new set of badguys (the old ones now thoroughly defeated) and quite a few changes to the regular cast.
Not to mention, the fans who ostensibly stopped watching when Daniel died, but are still part of fandom versus those who thought his return negated the issue completely.
An obvious line of demarkation is when Richard Dean Anderson left from his starring role and the series became Fargate SG-1.
Stargate Universe has a divide between Young and Rush supporters. This is probably intentional.
The show also caused conflict among those who enjoyed the previous two series. Some enjoyed what they saw as a more dramatic tone, while others disliked the dystopian shift in tone and what was perceived as a loss of comedic elements and adequate lighting. The disgruntlement of the latter fans was cited by the producers as a cause for the show's eventual cancellation, although the same producers were insistent initially that the show didn't need fans of the earlier series.
This was Serious Business to some fans on Gateworld who were being censored when they expressed their unhappiness on the boards. In protest, they started their own website, which was also blamed by the producers for the cancellation.
Also the fight between those who wanted Chloe thrown out the nearest airlock up against a (unusual, as they are diametrically opposed Shipping pairings) combined force of the Chloe/Eli and Chloe/Scott shippers who wanted her to stay.
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: fans kind of split off from the rest of Star Trek fandom rather more violently than proponents of other series', but there's also the small base who think anything after the original three seasons of the original Star Trek is crap. (Hey, even Season 3 of TOS is dicey.)
Alternatively, there are those who think TOS was an overwrought, campy pile of crap with lousy production values and a terrible lead actor.
Not surprisingly, Star Trek: The Motion Picture, the first thing made after TOS, produced the first major fanbase division between those who consider it the 'Slow-Motion Picture' and those who consider it the purest Trek ever made.
And now a schism is opening between people who like JJ Abrams' interpretation in the 2009 movie, and others who believe he's turning the franchise into just another series of action films. (Though nearly everybody hated Into Darkness.
Not necessarily just JJ, arguably more people ignore anything after the end of either Voyager orEnterprise. You get the same thing with the movies at various points, often after First Contact or Nemesis. A few fans ignore everything made after Gene Roddenberry died (a decent amount of The Next Generation plus everything after it).
Also: Kirk vs. Picard (see the page quote), were Voyager and Enterprise any good, some or all of the various movies etc...
The Enterprise episode "Regeneration" is especially divisive. Is it considered to be an interesting concept that picks up on a plot thread left over from Star Trek: First Contact, or does it utterly break the established lore of one of the series' most notable villains?
The entire Enterprise series led to Broken Base. As the first series to have its entire run fall within the Internet era, it sparked massive infighting among fans, to the point where two factions were identified on forums and Usenet: "Bashers", who were inconsolable haters of the series and just wanted it cancelled and/or everyone involved fired and a new production team brought in; and "Gushers", who felt the series and its producers could do no wrong. Although there were many who fell in-between, it got to the point where anyone who had a criticism to share was labeled a Basher, anyone who wanted to praise the show for any reason a Gusher, and flaming and cyberbullying ensued. It only worsened when Enterprise was cancelled prematurely and the Gusher faction blamed the Basher faction for its demise. The wounds are still raw for many fans going on a decade after the show ended.
In the Supernatural fandom, there are battles between the Dean!Girls and Sam!Girls with Bi!Bro fans arguing that Dean can't live without Sam and vice versa, not to mention that the fandom is also divided between wanting more of the arc or more of a Season 1/ Monster of the Week feel.
With the new developments of Season 4, the fandom has been broken into three parts. Some religious fans are offended by the possibility of not-so-good angels, some atheists are offended that God has been brought into it while others are saying that this has finally made the mytharc interesting.
Metamorphosis spawned a Broken Base in a matter of days. The Deanfen are defending Dean's actions to the death and are spitting molten hate at Sam, the Samfen are bending over backwards to defend Sam and are wanting Dean to be punished, there are others who are fandom the writer for her apparent OOC characterizations and then there is the sane minority who think that both Sam and Dean are on a whole new level of fucked up and while it doesn't excuse their behavior, it certainly explains it.
This more or less happens Once a Season now, every time the brothers fight about something or even if one of them does something merely controversial. Each time the favorite brother gets defended to the hilt while the other brother gets every crappy thing they've ever done (even if it's more or less imagined by the fan in question) recited overandoverandover.
This isn't even mentioning the shipping wars between Wincest (Sam/Dean), Destiel (Dean/Castiel), and more recently, Sassy (Sam/Cas), or the expansion into Actor Shipping conflicts between J2 (Jensen Ackles/Jared Padalecki) and Cockles (Jensen Ackles/Misha Collins) ships.
Then there's the Wincestiel shippers. And more recently, despite the female fanbase's general hatred of heterosexual relationships, you have a split between Dean/Cas shippers and Meg/Cas relationship.
There is also great debates on which actor is better, whether or not the quality of the acting/writing/show in general has gone up/down over the seasons, whether or not the show should have ended at Season 5, and the quality of Season 6 onwards.
Every two or three seasons, the show completely fractures its fanbase. Many fans of the episodic horror-movie-monsters structure of the first two or three series lost interest when the show started shifting its emphasis towards series arcs and storylines about demon possession and preventing Armageddon; the Seasons 4 and 5 angel/demon story arc broke the base yet again, when there was even more extended drama and less traditional horror elements. Season 6 split the fanbase further with a less-structured series arc and the revelation that heaven's cuddliest angel was actually the series' big bad. Another split happened in Season 7, as many found the Leviathan underwhelming compared to the earlier series' big bad, Bobby was killed off for real (which destroyed the sense of family which has always been the show's major draw), and the Monster of the Week episodes to be too predictable and far less intriguing than they had been in the earlier series. A lot of fans just miss the angel and demon politics.
While Cas tends to be a fan favorite, there's a subset of fans who can't stand how much attention he gets and the way he purportedly robs screentime from the brother's dramas. Some fans who dislike Castiel can't stand the newer series, and others will only watch Castiel episodes.
The first season had Kelly Wigglesworth, who (depending on the viewer) was either a dark-horse candidate who showed great spirit in winning a series of challenges, or a useless freeloader who was forced to win challenges to save herself.
Russell Hantz, of Seasons 19 and 20, notably caused the first major rift between the show's non-internet and forum fanbases. Rupert of Pearl Islands caused a similar rift, but it wasn't nearly as pronounced. Due to the show's editing positioning him as a Villain Protagonist, Russell tended to be very popular with casual fans of the show (note his winning of two consecutive "America's Favorite Survivor" awards), however, he's absolutely reviled at forums such as "Survivor Sucks", where both of his losses in the final vote triggered huge celebrations. Note that the internet doesn't entirely hate Russell, it tends to be about 60-40 in favor of hating him, and mentioning him will likely cause a huge Internet Backdraft wherever you go.
Long before Russell Hantz (who's legacy is mostly manufactured anyway) was the fallout over the results of Survivor: All Stars. Fans to this day can't agree on whether the jury, particularly Lex, was justified in their unparalleled amount of bitterness towards Boston Rob, or whether they were bitter hypocrites since most of them were planning on using Rob to further their own selfish goals themselves.
Torchwood. The shipping wars between Jack/Ianto shippers and Jack/Gwen shippers split the fandom from Season 1. Then in Season 2, Gwen got married to someone else, Jack/Ianto was made unambiguous canon, and the two other main characters were killed at the end. Then Ianto died in Season 3 (Children of Earth) and it got so much worse. Now... if you dare, go and look at any Torchwood forum that still allows discussion of Children of Earth and Season 4.
A lot of aspects of the show get this, especially the ship wars. But mention Gwen or Miracle Day at all, and you should probably run for cover.
On the other hand, many casual watchers of the show preferred the later series, seeing the first two as lots of Monster of the Week that never managed to develop the kind of story arcs it needed, while the latter two ditched that in favour of series of self-contained plotlines.
And a lot of people who preferred Children of Earth felt Miracle Day was a good concept that was poorly-paced and dragged on episodes after they stopped caring. It doesn't help that Miracle Day feels really detached from the rest of the Whoniverse and is hard to fit into continuity.
While it seems that many fans of Two and a Half Men think Season 11 is bringing back the quality of Seasons 1-8, there are also a bunch of people who think that Season 10 is a major improvement over Season 9. However, there are a lot of people who think that Season 10 is just as bad as Season 9 and showed no improvement.
The TV series Unsung is starting to show signs of this for almost similar reasons to Soul Train. The show is a kinda "Behind The Music" type of show for unsung artists. For the most part it covered artists from the 70's and early 80's. But when they started adding rappers, and Hip-Hop groups, and artists from the The '90s... well.
The Walking Dead has always shown small cracks in the base, for many different reasons:
Which is better/worse: the short action-filled first season or the longer, drawn-out second season?
Some believe the third season started strong, but screeched to a halt during the second half of the season, others just flat out hate it.
Frank Darabont's departure from the series: did the show get better or worse after he left?
Was the first half of Season 2 good because it gave much-needed Character Development to many of the survivors, or did it drag way too long with the "Sophia's missing" arc?
Is T-Dog a good original character, or is he just a stand-in for Tyreese?, or alternatively just a token black they never really had intentions of developing. The former argument was later rendered moot when T-Dog was killed by walkers and Tyreese appeared in the third season.
This started a hilarious meme regarding T-Dog where fans liked hims just because of the absurdity in how underdeveloped he was. Basically, he got a fan base in spite of how he was treated. Another meme was created about how you can only have a certain amount of black characters before another black character had to die to make room.
Was Andrea a tragic Iron Woobie who was only trying to do the right thing, or an arrogant Jerkass who sold out her friends for a brief bit of peace?
By extension the portrayal of Andrea compared to the beloved comic counterpart. The fact that the TV version's badly executed death was met with indifference or in some cases happiness says A LOT about that character.
The Governor's attack on the prison in the third-season finale: was it the culmination of a half-season's worth of buildup, or a rushed, anticlimactic and near-pointless fight?
Subsequently, the Governor-centric episodes in mid-Season 4, which fragmented fans into several camps. Was The Governor a tragic villain who was only trying to do the right thing in protecting Lilly, Tara, and Meghan, or is he still an unredeemable bastard who was manipulating everyone around him? Were the Governor-centric episodes good character-building exercises, or pointless padding on the part of AMC? Was The Governor's second attack on the prison a great way to shake up the series and hew closer to the comic, or was it a case of "too little, too late" after the underwhelming third-season finale?
The West Wing fandom can be divided into two groups: the people who refuse to consider Seasons 5-7 canon on the basis that the changes were utterly ridiculous and crapped all over everything Seasons 1-4 stood for, and the people who think the changes in Seasons 5-7 were logical. Interestingly, the former group is not a militant purist fringe group, and may possibly represent a majority of fans (though probably not a majority of casual viewers). Also, there isn't much in-fighting between the two groups, since even the latter group agree that Seasons 5-7 were subpar — they just aren't willing to eject them from canon.
War of the Worlds is a interesting case. When Season 2 arrived most hated it, especially after they killed off Drake and Ironhorse. Some thought the show actually Grew the Beard around Season 2. Almost two decades later and people's opinions about Season 2 has started to be a lot less critical (just short of being Vindicated by History). Some feel that the second season wasn't bad per se', but just felt that the show's changes was too abrupt. Some believe that the second season would have worked better if the show had a build up to the setting of Season 2. Thus making the changes less jarring.
The Wire is highly lauded by the fans and critically-praised, but even it has its share of disagreements. The fifth season is either slightly weaker than the fourth (but still great television) or a rushed exercise in trying to tie up all the loose plot threads, at the expense of killing off a large number of supporting characters for shock value. Within that, there's disagreement over whether or not the newspaper arc was as interesting as the drug trade/docks/school themes of previous seasons, and whether or not the "fake serial killer" storyline fit in with the show's previously-established grounded nature.
Whose Line Is It Anyway?: British version (presented by Clive Anderson) vs. American version (Drew Carey). Usually the debate revolves around whether or not Ryan, Colin, and Wayne deserved to be on every episode or whether the lineup should be mixed around more, or who is the better host. But fans will find ANYTHING to argue about, so the Britline vs. Drew's Line debates tend to get increasingly ridiculous — from whether or not (insert cast member here) is either a comedic genius or horrendously overrated, to which country's audience is better (either the British audience is too quiet or the American audience is too loud), to which musician is better at playing the Hoedown music, to which set is better, to which version has better fashion sense.
Keep in mind, the last one is talked about in part because the UK version began in the late 1980s. It's not that it isn't incredibly over the top and Fan Dumbish to complain about, but it's not that arbitrary or random either.
And speaking of the British version... John Sessions: Erudite, intellectual wordsmith with a dry, refined sense of humor or grandstanding, buffoonish snob whose showoffishness ruined the earliest seasons/series?
Based on YouTube comments, Aisha Tyler's hosting of the American reboot has also become a base-breaker.
Winnie Cooper from The Wonder Years, Mostly because people thought she was a whiny bitch who treated Kevin like trash, and was more or less just stringing him along. While others felt that she was being nice to Kevin out of pity, and never really liked him "in that way".
Likewise with Kevin during the later seasons. Especially over the fact he turned down arguably better girlfriends (E.g. Madeline, and Cara) to chase down Winnie Cooper.
Some people think the first 3 seasons are the only ones worth watching, some people think the good days ended after they moved from Vancouver to LA after Season 5, some people think Duchovny's departure was what did it, and still others the fact that his bus kept coming back. The wank got uglier every time.
There were also groups of fans who felt that the stand alone monster of the week episodes were much more enjoyable than the convoluted UFO mythology. It didn't help that the big-release Movie rewrote most of what was established about the mytharc, and that by Season 7 it was obvious ChrisCarter and crew were making it up as they went along.