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Eagal This is a title. Since: Apr, 2012
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May 13th 2017 at 7:11:05 PM •••

  • In addition to co-creating The Cosby Show, Ed. Weinberger also served as creator and executive producer of Amen, co-creator of The Bill Cosby Show, and co-creator and co-exeuctive producer of Taxi.
  • Carmen Finestra wrote 56 episodes. Finestra is best known as co-creator and co-executive producer of Home Improvement.
  • Matt Williams wrote 17 episodes. Williams is best known as creator and executive producer of Roseanne and also served as co-creator and co-executive producer of Home Improvement.
  • Matt Robinson wrote ten episodes. Robinson is best known for playing Gordon on Sesame Street from 1969 to 1972.
  • Bernie Kukoff wrote eight episodes. Kukoff is best known for co-creating Diff'rent Strokes.
  • Ehrich Van Lowe also wrote eight episodes. Van Lowe is best known as creator and executive producer of Homeboys in Outer Space.
  • Earl Pomerantz wrote three episodes. Pomerantz is best known as developer and executive producer of Major Dad.
  • Winifred Hervey wrote an episode. Hervey is best known as creator and executive producer of The Steve Harvey Show.
  • Bill Prady co-wrote an episode. Prady is best known for co-creating The Big Bang Theory.

These examples were added by Glickmam. They were deleted by Madaruga with the explanation "Not Retroactive Recognition That's "Point is, you've seen these things before. You just never paid enough attention to the actor to learn his name or connect one appearance to another until he finally landed a regular role on a series you regularly watch. " Any writer worth their salt will have worked on many shows."

Glickmam readded them and I pulled them again and brought them here for discussion, should it be necessary. So, Retroactive Recognition, yeah or nay?

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glickmam Since: Nov, 2010
May 15th 2017 at 6:29:38 AM •••

I think so, I mean it gets quite boring when you only discuss actors, and also, the line between cast and crew tends to get blurred a lot.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
May 15th 2017 at 8:56:58 AM •••

Whether a trope is boring is not relevant to its application.

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glickmam Since: Nov, 2010
May 15th 2017 at 8:35:57 PM •••

Fine, but what about the fact that the line between actors and non-actors getting blurred frequently.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
May 15th 2017 at 9:12:57 PM •••

Blurred in what way? I don't see any cause for adding Bob Somebody, camera-man extraordinaire who worked on all of NBC's shows in the late 90s.

Actors are significant because they're the faces in front of the camera that everyone sees and says "Hey, I recognize that guy from that other show!"

Some particularly famous writers may get recognition for their writing style, but most people won't look at an episode of Gotham and say "Hey, the guy who wrote this episodes was a writer for Who's the Boss?!"

And they're certainly not going to say, "Hey, it's Samuel L Jackson, remember that time he wrote an episode of The Boondocks?" Matt Robinson isn't being retroactively recognized. First he was doing one job, then he was doing another.

Donald Trump isn't Retroactive Recognition because he's the President when he used to host a reality show.

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glickmam Since: Nov, 2010
May 16th 2017 at 5:36:41 PM •••

Um, what I meant was that actors sometimes do non acting jobs.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
May 16th 2017 at 5:47:31 PM •••

Point stands.

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glickmam Since: Nov, 2010
May 17th 2017 at 6:53:17 PM •••

Can you please clarify what "point stands" means?

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
May 18th 2017 at 8:14:19 AM •••

If actors do non-acting jobs, and vice-versa, they're not being retroactively recognized. They're just in different jobs, re: Donald Trump as president and reality show host.

Ditto writers working on different shows. That they happen to have worked on other shows isn't Retroactive Recognition any more than Jack Nicholson is Retroactive Recognition for starring in The Departed after Something's Gotta Give.

Trying a different tack, to quote the trope page, "this is what happens when a former bit player finally lands a breakout role. It may also include a few minor roles before their Star-Making Role".

Going from writing for the Cosby Show to writing for some obscure hulu sitcom about a Marine corps major is not a bit player landing a breakout role.

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