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Apr 2nd 2012 at 8:34:28 PM •••

Wait...how did the entire town learn Gabby Gums' identity? The Mane 6 had their suspicion, but Rarity is the only one who learns with 100% certainty. And after her conversation with Sweetie Bell, it certainly didn't seem like the next thing on her agenda would be to tell everyone in town about it.

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Apr 3rd 2012 at 7:30:03 AM •••

The Mane Six wanted to stop Gabby Gums from gossiping, so it's not out of the question that Rarity told her friends, and the six of them spread the word. Even if Rarity ended her conversation with Sweetie Belle on a heartfelt note, the gossip spread was slanderous enough to justify revealing who was behind it.

Apr 4th 2012 at 11:22:36 PM •••

Honestly, I don't think the mane 6 were suspicious of Sweetie Bell - Twilight simply asked if Sweetie Bell might know who Gabby Gums is, and Rarity took it from there.

Apr 2nd 2012 at 5:45:36 PM •••

For the Never Say Die example, perhaps Rarity didn't mean kill, but instead, as a pony of high society, she would destroy what she thought Gabby Gums was supported on, her career. And I doubt she'd kill a child. Also, destroy flows better and adds to the over-the-top drama Rarity is known for.

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Sep 13th 2012 at 6:12:07 AM •••

You're right, it's not that trope. I'll delete it.

Apr 2nd 2012 at 10:46:35 AM •••

I know it's a purely subjective thing, but would anyone object if I put that part where Mrs. Cake reacts to hearing Gabby Gums' column saying that she and Mr. Cake are splitting up with a bewildered "We are?" under Crowning Moment of Funny on the YMMV tab? I'm not the only one who got a good snicker out of that, am I?

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Apr 8th 2012 at 6:43:25 PM •••

Go ahead. I'm surprised it wasn't under that already. I got a laugh out of it myself. Her husband looked as confused by that as she did.

Mar 31st 2012 at 9:37:09 PM •••

I am not familiar with hair dyeing, but in the spa it sure looked like Twilight was having her pink hair streak put in with those foil things, am I wrong, what was really happening?

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Apr 1st 2012 at 2:19:41 PM •••

I am surprised that was not in a Gabby Gum article unless its not really news, because everyone knows, because all of the pony's fantastic hair color ARE FAKE!!! Omg I need to rethink everything about my life.

Apr 1st 2012 at 10:03:13 PM •••

What if everypony dyes their manes except for Rainbow Dash? That would be some crazy inversion of several fanfics.

Mar 31st 2012 at 9:32:39 PM •••

Pinky Pie admited she had a party problem, which is step one, what do you think party rehab is like?

And did anyone else notice that fluttershy did not deny having tail extensions!?

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Mar 31st 2012 at 10:52:00 PM •••

Fluttershy was incoherent. She couldn't even say a word to her closest friends, let alone refute the accusations of some anonymous, hostile gossip columnist.

Edited by Chariset
Apr 1st 2012 at 2:13:43 PM •••

So is it true she has tail extensions or not? Not that that thats a bad thing.

Edited by GraySloth
Apr 2nd 2012 at 7:26:31 PM •••

All the other Gabby stories were exaggerations or outright lies, so the tail extensions are too. Vanity is not Fluttershy's vice.

Nov 14th 2012 at 9:24:57 PM •••

Now hold on, consider the evidence. Fluttershy's tail is somewhat longer than everypony else's, and the only one that trails along the ground, though Rarity's tail may be longer if uncurled. As a filly her tail was no larger than average. She also has a rather freaky talent for stitchwork and French fashion, so perhaps she's not as indifferent to her appearance as you would expect.

And let's not forget the fact that she didn't deny it, her pony friends seemed to think it was a plausible assertion, and there was photo evidence of a considerably longer tail than she is normally drawn with.

Mar 31st 2012 at 8:25:15 PM •••

Truffle Shuffle. Wearing a fez and bifocals. While reading the school newspaper. That is all.*

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PDL
Mar 31st 2012 at 8:46:31 PM •••

Spike in robes and bubble pipe comes in a close second.

Mar 31st 2012 at 7:03:15 PM •••

Show of hands: who else was expecting the episode to end with Featherweight giving the CMC a photo of Diamond Tiara blackmailing them so they could put it in the next issue?

TYRANNICAL EDITOR BLACKMAILS "GABBY GUMS"; FORCES FILLIES TO CONTINUE DESTRUCTIVE GOSSIP COLUMN

You can't deny that would've been awesome, since it would've exposed Diamond Tiara for the Alpha Bitch Bad Boss she is AND gotten the CMC off the hook with the townsfolk in one fell swoop

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Mar 31st 2012 at 7:06:01 PM •••

Meh, he'd still suffer from Karma Houdini because he'd been tracking every pony and photographing them in their most private moments.

Mar 31st 2012 at 7:19:38 PM •••

While it would've settled the issue with DT, what would the lesson to Celestia be?

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PDL
Mar 31st 2012 at 7:27:24 PM •••

Not to mention that doing that would basically be amounting to doing the exact action that got them into deep trouble with everyone else in the first place. That is, spreading ugly rumors to make up for... Spreading ugly rumors.

That isn't exactly the best lesson for children.

Actually, I was expecting them to publish their own embarrassing photos and go through the same sort of hazing that everyone else went through.

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Mar 31st 2012 at 10:48:57 PM •••

I suspect the planned ending was a Diamond-Tiara-shaming column (foreshadowed by Featherweight's presence and DT having the story printed without reading it), but it would have taught the Family-Unfriendly Aesop of Pay Evil unto Evil. So they changed it to an apology letter and set up a bait-and-switch

Edited by Chariset
Mar 31st 2012 at 11:46:48 PM •••

My expectation was for the Cutie Mark Crusaders to let Diamond Tiara print her blackmail photos as a self-inflicted Hoist by His Own Petard.

Apr 1st 2012 at 12:35:44 AM •••

@PDL "That is, spreading ugly rumors to make up for... Spreading ugly rumors. " ...no, it would be telling the truth to make up for spreading ugly rumors.

Apr 1st 2012 at 6:21:05 AM •••

@GoldenFootballPlayer There was a lesson to Celestia in this episode?

Apr 1st 2012 at 6:34:00 AM •••

There was an open apology letter to everyone instead of a closed letter to just the Princess. It still would have been nice to show a brief shot of Celestia reading the column to make that clear.

PDL
Apr 1st 2012 at 1:59:14 PM •••

@TARI Nunit 9 It really wouldn't have mattered if what they told was real or false. Everyone else would not believe the CMC's story and assume that they made it up along with the other lies and slander they've been putting in their articles. Nothing would have changed and they would still be shunned and rejected for spreading gossip. Even if it was true.

Mar 31st 2012 at 1:10:49 PM •••

Anyone else feel the Disproportionate Retribution part is taking things way out of context and exaggerates it? Sure most of the town shunned them afterward but it wasn't unjustifiable, and no-one really did anything that was out of line.

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Mar 31st 2012 at 1:32:52 PM •••

I agree. Plus, they didn't actually write a single one of their gossip columns under the threat of blackmail.

Mar 31st 2012 at 10:55:01 PM •••

I see it as a downplayed Deal with the Devil. They figured the unpleasantness of working with Diamond Tiara would be worth it; then they slowly became more compromised under the double whammy of popularity and the fear of DT's disapproval. By the time they wanted out, it was too late to get away clean.

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Oct 24th 2012 at 8:29:03 PM •••

If you ask me it was worse I mean the CMC even admitted that they did not want to continue so to see them suffer for somthing they hated doing that was to far

Mar 30th 2012 at 8:34:55 AM •••

Not meaning to sound pestimistic, but it seems like the last couple episodes of the season seem to be more or less basic rehashed plots that have been used in many other shows. I hope this trend does not follow into season 3. I also hope to be proven wrong with these episodes, but so far from the clip's I have seen, "Ponyville Confidential" is coming off very much like every other "Gosip News" episode from every other cartoon, and "MM Mystery on the Friendship Express" is sounding very much like your basic Train Mystery.

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Mar 30th 2012 at 9:12:58 AM •••

...I wasn't aware that "a plot that follows a plot archtype" automatically equals bad. Its not even out yet.

Mar 30th 2012 at 12:42:43 PM •••

And I wasn't aware there was a different show that used the plot of a team of fliers trying to make a tornado for picking up water to make clouds.

Granted, some episodes are using rehashed plots, but they do add their own twists to it. For example, while "Dragon Quest" sounds like the typical Gene Hunting story, it actually comes out a lot better than you'd expect. The only episode I can think of that uses a rehashed plot and doesn't try to make it more interesting is The Ticket Master.

Mar 31st 2012 at 1:18:03 PM •••

Newsflash: when you boil it down, every single story has been done.

Mar 31st 2012 at 3:39:42 PM •••

There are only so many kid-friendly lessons about friendship one can condense down into 22 minute shows, and still have it be entertaining to the audience.

Edited by ParadiscaCorbasi
Apr 1st 2012 at 2:45:38 PM •••

Stealing someone's diary is like a low-tech version of hacking someone's phone. So I think the point of this episode is success at something is meaningless if you have to stoop to morally dubious actions to do it.

Apr 6th 2012 at 12:18:53 AM •••

Not so much disproportionate retribution as hypocritical... the CMC were writing a gossip column—that everyone from the Mayor down was eagerly reading. It especially stuck out that while the girls were called out on it, nobody else was— not even Rarity, who was explicitly Gabby Gums' most avid reader and supporter.

Nov 2nd 2012 at 5:51:06 PM •••

"Newsflash: when you boil it down, every single story has been done."

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