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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Reorg needed, started by KnownUnknown on Jan 28th 2010 at 4:07:26 AM

Eastern front? Evil vs evil? Russians and nazis both evil? This contradicts Misplaced Nationalism.

• While the Japanese have numerous stories about the Sengoku and Bakumatsu eras, those periods of history are not well known outside the country. (The Last Samurai does not fit in either category and is not very historical anyway. Earlier periods are even less known.
  • Film
    • Technically, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III is set in the Sengoku period.
    • As are most of the Samurai movies that had a big success in the West, such as The Seven Samurai and Kagemusha.

This is self-contradictory. Either "those periods of history are not well-known outside of [Japan]", or "most of the Samurai movies that had big success in the West" were set there. They can't both be true.

Isn't all this in large part a matter of writing, or in this case, making films about what you know? Are there many films made in China about American or English history? Looking further back, the Bible and the Greek and Roman classics are part of our cultural heritage far more than religious or classical texts from other parts of the world, so naturally there are more Roman and biblical epics than Indian ones (plenty of these of course are made in Bollywood because these stories are part of India's heritage).

Fears of being called culturally insensitive or appropriating other people's stories may be another reason why filmmakers particularly today are reluctant to make movies based on unfamiliar cultures.

Could I possibly add the Weimar Republic? I can only think of one Western work and that's Cabaret but my knowledge of works is pretty limited. I'm not sure if its existence is common knowledge or not (or if that matters when adding examples).

I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but is there any sort of reason we have a couple paragraphs just talking about the Articles of Confederation?

The layout of this page is really confusing. What do "includes" and "examples" refer to? If it's "civilisations in this time period" I think that's covered elsewhere - if it's "civilisatons from this time period overlooked by Hollywood History" then entries like "Athens and Sparta" need to be removed unless there are specific aspects of those civs that get ignored. Plenty of fiction has acknowledged Athenian Greece.

Wiki Schizophrenia. If anyone who knows about the subject thinks the info is relevant, feel free. If there's genuine controversy about it, just present both sides.

• The Alamo occurred during Texas' war for independence, the Mexican-American War started later, when Texas applied to the US for membership and was accepted. The Mexican government, correctly seeing this as the end of any chance of ever getting Texas back, violently objected. Mexico ended up losing even more territory to the US as a result, including California.
  • FYI: Un, no. When Texas joined the Union, the US agreed to a border on the Nuaces River instead of the Rio Grande. President Polk, however, wanted the border at the Rio Grande, as did the Texans, so he ordered the army to cross the Nuaces. When the Mexicans fought back, Polk told Congress that American territory had been attacked.
    • FYI: Uh, no. The U.S. never agreed to the border on the Nueces River. The Republic of Texas considered its border with Mexico to be the Rio Grande. Mexico recognized its border with the Republic of Texas to be on the Nueces. The United States never spoke on the issue until the annexation of Texas. The United Kingdom actually explicitly recognized the Nueces claim, and the Mexicans expected the Empire to back them up in the border dispute. However, the British were unwilling to take sides against a major trading partner, especially when they were trying for a peaceful solution with the United States concerning the ownership of Oregon Territory (now the U.S. states of Oregon and Washington, and the Canadian province of British Columbia).