Should Knight Templar be somewhere on this list? Probably in Most Sympathetic?
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Depends on how delusional vs what standards they have. A Knight Templar is someone who believes themselves good, but are more on the delusional end. They are Well-Intentioned Extremist combined with The Fundamentalist.
I’d say they can range from vaguely sympathetic to Complete Monster.
Where would the more intelligent/sentient versions of Non-Malicious Monster go?
Basically things like King Kong that are clearly more sentient than a common beast.
I’m guessing somewhere in between Hero Antagonist and Anti-Villain on the grounds of not actively being out to hurt anyone (except for natural predation) so much as its behaviour is due to being lost, confused, or enraged.
Where would Loveable Alpha Bitch be? I'm thinking towards the lower end of most sympathetic.
Where would Loving Bully be? I think probably in the Anti-Villain category as they are (usually) more sympathetic than just The Bully.
Yes.
How can a Designated Villain be below Anti-Villain? It's not defined by a lack of character development, but by not doing anything to deserve the villainous reputation the story gives them.
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Because the classic Designated Villain is the villain because of who he is, not what he does. Take a Nazi in a WWII story: Bam, instant villain. You don't have to show him doing anything to make him a villain, you just have to specify that he's a Nazi. (In theory, anyway.)
In other words, a lot like a Mook, with a similar variability on the scale. (Although, as with the Mook, the DV rarely goes that far below Ordinary Villainy.)
No, that's Villain by Default. A Designated Villain is portrayed as villainous by the story, but there isn't really anything to put him above a mere Jerkass, and sometimes not even that.
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Where would Loveable Alpha Bitch be? I think somewhere between most sympathetic and dividing line between heroes and anti-villains depending on how nice (or not) she actually is.
Where would Stupid Evil fall? I would guess they would be in the irredeemable category
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How are Yanderes sympathetic? I thought they were pretty evil? o.O
Unless this is a matter of how the audience views them and not necessarily a matter of good vs. evil, but most of it seems to be that way... I thought some Yanderes were pretty psycho. :O
I mean, where does Yuno Gasai fit on the list, really? o.O You know, the Mirai Nikki girl that pretty much codifies it. :p
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Where does Pragmatic Villainy fall within this scale?
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Should Evil Virtues be moved from Sympathy Effect to Both/Multiple? It even states in its description that while it can make a villain admirable in spite of their vileness, it can also make them more dangerous or depraved because their determined, brave, ambitious, and/or etc. enough to commit bigger and badder things.