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* A KnightOfCerebus almost never strays above NobleDemon in order to provide the sufficient seriousness needed for their MoodWhiplash--curiously, the only exception to this are {{Sadist Show}}s that embrace their BlackAndGreyMorality which will often have a HeroAntagonist available as one to highlight [[CrapsackWorld just how crapsack things are]].
* A KnightTemplar can either be [[AntiVillain higher]] or [[MoralEventHorizon lower]] on the scale, depending on how deluded or extreme they are. [[BlackAndGreyMorality In particularly]] [[EvilVersusEvil dark stories]], a MoralEventHorizon is very likely, but in more idealistic works, they may be {{Anti Villain}}s.

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* A KnightOfCerebus almost never strays above NobleDemon in order to provide the sufficient seriousness needed for their MoodWhiplash--curiously, the only exception to this are {{Sadist Show}}s that embrace their BlackAndGreyMorality BlackAndGrayMorality which will often have a HeroAntagonist available as one to highlight [[CrapsackWorld just how crapsack things are]].
* A KnightTemplar can either be [[AntiVillain higher]] or [[MoralEventHorizon lower]] on the scale, depending on how deluded or extreme they are. [[BlackAndGreyMorality [[BlackAndGrayMorality In particularly]] [[EvilVersusEvil dark stories]], a MoralEventHorizon is very likely, but in more idealistic works, they may be {{Anti Villain}}s.



** Shows with BlackAndGreyMorality tend to reduce the vileness of {{Hero Antagonist}}s or {{Anti Villain}}s; it's just hard to get worked up over a villain's plan to [[RushmoreRefacement carve his face into the side of a mountain]] when the hero has to regularly resort to machine-gunning robbers in broad daylight.
** Likewise, shows with GreyAndWhiteMorality rarely have more than one or two instances (usually the BigBad) where the antagonists stray below WellIntentionedExtremist.

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** Shows with BlackAndGreyMorality BlackAndGrayMorality tend to reduce the vileness of {{Hero Antagonist}}s or {{Anti Villain}}s; it's just hard to get worked up over a villain's plan to [[RushmoreRefacement carve his face into the side of a mountain]] when the hero has to regularly resort to machine-gunning robbers in broad daylight.
** Likewise, shows with GreyAndWhiteMorality WhiteAndGreyMorality rarely have more than one or two instances (usually the BigBad) where the antagonists stray below WellIntentionedExtremist.


* The MadDoctor when portrayed seriously generally falls here due to their [[EvilutionaryBiologist overwhelmingly]] {{sadist|ic}} [[TortureTechnician nature]].

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* The MadDoctor when portrayed seriously generally falls here due to their [[EvilutionaryBiologist overwhelmingly]] {{sadist|ic}} {{sadist}}ic [[TortureTechnician nature]].



* A KnightTemplar can either be [[AntiVillain higher]] or [[MoralEventHorizon lower]] on the scale, depending on how deluded or extreme they are. [[BlackAndGreyMorality In particularly]] [[EvilVersusEvil dark stories]], a MoralEventHorizon is very likely, but in more idealistic works, they may be AntiVillains.

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* A KnightTemplar can either be [[AntiVillain higher]] or [[MoralEventHorizon lower]] on the scale, depending on how deluded or extreme they are. [[BlackAndGreyMorality In particularly]] [[EvilVersusEvil dark stories]], a MoralEventHorizon is very likely, but in more idealistic works, they may be AntiVillains.{{Anti Villain}}s.


!!!Dividing line between [[NominalHero nominal]] {{heroes}} and {{villains}}

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!!!Dividing line between [[NominalHero nominal]] {{heroes}} {{nominal hero}}es and {{villains}}



* [[{{Pirate}} Pirates]]

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* [[{{Pirate}} Pirates]]{{Pirate}}s



* The MadDoctor when portrayed seriously generally falls here due to their [[EvilutionaryBiologist overwhelmingly]] [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] [[TortureTechnician nature]].

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* The MadDoctor when portrayed seriously generally falls here due to their [[EvilutionaryBiologist overwhelmingly]] [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] {{sadist|ic}} [[TortureTechnician nature]].


** KnightTemplar

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** KnightTemplar


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* KnightTemplar, one of the guys who think they’re doing the right thing, by ANY means necessary.



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** KnightTemplar

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* HumanTraffickers, combining RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil makes it near impossible for them to be sympathetic.


** Any villain who is ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to other villains will gain more audience sympathy than their opponents, but must be at least as low as this point to be believable as a shade of black on their own.
*** IneffectualSympatheticVillain
*** GoldfishPoopGang
*** The VillainousHarlequin rarely goes below this point.
** To qualify a villain for VileVillainSaccharineShow status, in order to induce the MoodWhiplash needed, they need to be at this evil or below.
** TheBully
*** AlphaBitch
*** JerkJock
** TheQuincyPunk
** DirtyCoward
** TheFightingNarcissist
** OpposingSportsTeam
** CorruptPolitician
** CorruptHick
** CorruptCorporateExecutive
** SmugSnake
** WickedWitch goes here if not subverted.
** Villains who believe DespotismJustifiesTheMeans usually fit here, since their goal of gaining power for its own sake is disgustingly self-serving, no matter what evil means they may use.
** ObviouslyEvil
** EvilSorcerer
** BarbarianTribe
** ClassicVillain is here or lower.
** [[{{Pirate}} Pirates]]
** DirtyCommunists

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** * Any villain who is ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to other villains will gain more audience sympathy than their opponents, but must be at least as low as this point to be believable as a shade of black on their own.
*** * IneffectualSympatheticVillain
*** * GoldfishPoopGang
*** * The VillainousHarlequin rarely goes below this point.
** * To qualify a villain for VileVillainSaccharineShow status, in order to induce the MoodWhiplash needed, they need to be at this evil or below.
** * TheBully
*** ** AlphaBitch
*** ** JerkJock
** * TheQuincyPunk
** * DirtyCoward
** * TheFightingNarcissist
** * OpposingSportsTeam
** * CorruptPolitician
** * CorruptHick
** * CorruptCorporateExecutive
** * SmugSnake
** * WickedWitch goes here if not subverted.
** * Villains who believe DespotismJustifiesTheMeans usually fit here, since their goal of gaining power for its own sake is disgustingly self-serving, no matter what evil means they may use.
** * ObviouslyEvil
** * EvilSorcerer
** * BarbarianTribe
** * ClassicVillain is here or lower.
** * [[{{Pirate}} Pirates]]
** * DirtyCommunists


* Those are beyond the MoralEventHorizon by default. Some of them reach the CompleteMonster trope, but it is not a necessity to be (a complete one at least).

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* ** Those are often beyond the MoralEventHorizon by default. (thus placing them lower down). Some of them even reach the CompleteMonster trope, but it is not a necessity to be (a complete one at least).stage.



** CruellaToAnimals
** The ArtifactOfDoom and the EvilWeapon go here, provided they have a will of their own, although the audience will hate them less than human villains because it's hard to transfer hatred onto an object even when they're full characters.
** Any villain who commits a serious form of DisproportionateRetribution, which often it does
** FauxAffablyEvil: The whole point of the character is that he is polite, pleasant and even refined which contrasts with his atrocities.
** EvilOverlord - if played completely straight.
** MasterPoisoner
** [[FinalSolution Genocidal villains]].
*** AbsoluteXenophobe
*** EvilutionaryBiologist
*** TheSocialDarwinist
** Villains engaging in [[ImAHumanitarian canni]][[MonstrousCannibalism balism]].
*** ChildEater and EatsBabies.
** MonsterClown typically goes about here.
** TheCaligula
** PsychopathicManchild
** StrawNihilist (the villainous variety)
** TheSociopath
** TheHedonist (villainous version)
** AxCrazy
*** MadBomber
*** PsychoElectro
*** PyroManiac
** {{Sadist}}
** HopeCrusher
** PsychoForHire
** TortureTechnician
** {{Serial Killer}}s, as their motive often doesn't go beyond "butchers people for fun". Even when it does the MoralEventHorizon aspects of the act stills keep them from being above that.
*** {{Killer Cop}}s are considered even lower for betraying the trust that society places in them, unless they're {{Serial Killer Killer}}s and thus a subset of that type.
** The MadDoctor when portrayed seriously generally falls here due to their [[EvilutionaryBiologist overwhelmingly]] [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] [[TortureTechnician nature]].
*** Ditto for those who practice OrganTheft or any other form of HumanResources.

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** * CruellaToAnimals
** * The ArtifactOfDoom and the EvilWeapon go here, provided they have a will of their own, although the audience will hate them less than human villains because it's hard to transfer hatred onto an object even when they're full characters.
** * Any villain who commits a serious form of DisproportionateRetribution, which often it does
** * FauxAffablyEvil: The whole point of the character is that he is polite, pleasant and even refined which contrasts with his atrocities.
** * EvilOverlord - if played completely straight.
** * MasterPoisoner
** * [[FinalSolution Genocidal villains]].
*** ** AbsoluteXenophobe
*** ** EvilutionaryBiologist
*** ** TheSocialDarwinist
** * Villains engaging in [[ImAHumanitarian canni]][[MonstrousCannibalism balism]].
*** ** ChildEater and EatsBabies.
** * MonsterClown typically goes about here.
** * TheCaligula
** * PsychopathicManchild
** * StrawNihilist (the villainous variety)
** * TheSociopath
** * TheHedonist (villainous version)
** * AxCrazy
*** ** MadBomber
*** ** PsychoElectro
*** ** PyroManiac
** * {{Sadist}}
** * HopeCrusher
** * PsychoForHire
** * TortureTechnician
** * {{Serial Killer}}s, as their motive often doesn't go beyond "butchers people for fun". Even when it does the MoralEventHorizon aspects of the act stills still keep them from being above that.
*** ** Murderers who engage in SerialKillingsSpecificTarget also go here.
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{{Killer Cop}}s are considered even lower for betraying the trust that society places in them, unless they're {{Serial Killer Killer}}s and thus a subset of that type.
** * The MadDoctor when portrayed seriously generally falls here due to their [[EvilutionaryBiologist overwhelmingly]] [[{{Sadist}} sadistic]] [[TortureTechnician nature]].
*** ** Ditto for those who practice OrganTheft or any other form of HumanResources.



* Anyone who has crossed the MoralEventHorizon ends up here or below by definition.
* Villains that commit wanton and heinous evil acts simply ForTheEvulz. Most will qualify for Complete Monsters.
* AlwaysChaoticEvil races are nearly always pure sadistic evil by definition. Most individual members could qualify as a Complete Monster (as groups can't be Complete Monsters, which requires consciousness), although subversions or deconstructions are becoming more common, which pushes those examples out of this territory.
* With few exceptions, any serious villain that believes DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans or ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil.
* {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic. After all RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with no exceptions.
* Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category and if they have no redeeming qualities, will likely be a CompleteMonster.



** Villains that commit wanton and heinous evil acts simply ForTheEvulz. Most will qualify for Complete Monsters.
** AlwaysChaoticEvil races are nearly always pure sadistic evil by definition. Most individual members could qualify as a Complete Monster (as groups can't be Complete Monsters, which requires consciousness), although subversions or deconstructions are becoming more common, which pushes those examples out of this territory.
** With few exceptions, any serious villain that believes DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans or ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil.
* {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic. After all RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with no exceptions.
* Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category and if they have no redeeming qualities, will likely be a CompleteMonster.


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** Villains that commit wanton and heinous evil acts simply ForTheEvulz. Most will qualify for Complete Monsters.
** AlwaysChaoticEvil races are nearly always pure sadistic evil by definition. Most individual members could qualify as a Complete Monster (as groups can't be Complete Monsters, which requires consciousness), although subversions or deconstructions are becoming more common, which pushes those examples out of this territory.
** With few exceptions, any serious villain that believes DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans or ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil.
* {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic. After all RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with no exceptions.
* Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category and if they have no redeeming qualities, will likely be a CompleteMonster.




* Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category.


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* Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category.

category and if they have no redeeming qualities, will likely be a CompleteMonster.



* HateSink usually falls here in terms of vileness, even without being a true antagonist.



* An evil HateSink. A character designed to be massively hated by viewers.



** {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic. After all RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with no exceptions.
** Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category.





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\n* {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic. After all RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with no exceptions.
* Anybody who not only WouldHurtAChild, but explicitly targets them. Serial child killers and serial child rapists are among the vilest of this category.



** TrappedInVillainy

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** TrappedInVillainyTrappedInVillainy: This is what happens when someone really doesn't want to hurt anyone or take part in any crimes but is forced to because his life and the lives of his loved ones are threatened. Some of the worst villains enforce such a situation.


* BadBoss: Someone who treats their subordinates like dirt just because they can, won't get any bonus in either the sympathy or the morality meter especially if they stoop to saying:
** YouHaveFailedMe: Intentions don't matter to them, you either give them what they want or are useless and therefore don't deserve to live.
** YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Everyone is disposable and for them anyone living for anything beyond serving them is preposterous.



** FauxAffablyEvil

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** FauxAffablyEvilFauxAffablyEvil: The whole point of the character is that he is polite, pleasant and even refined which contrasts with his atrocities.



* A CardCarryingVillain is portrayed as either a HarmlessVillain or CompleteMonster. The more sympathetic they are, the more it comes across as an InformedAttribute, however.

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* A CardCarryingVillain is often, ironically enough, portrayed as either a HarmlessVillain or CompleteMonster. The more sympathetic they are, the more it comes across as an InformedAttribute, however.

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*** Ditto for those who practice OrganTheft or any other form of HumanResources.


** {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic.

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** {{Serial Rapist}}s, who need a hell of a FreudianExcuse to be even remotely sympathetic. After all RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil with no exceptions.


** NonMaliciousMonster



*** IneffectualSympatheticVillain
*** GoldfishPoopGang



* Ordinary Villainy: These do evil things for their own benefit (and their villainous allies/minions) or to advance an obviously evil goal. They'll readily KickTheDog without any real compunction.

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* Ordinary Villainy: These do evil things for their own benefit (and their villainous allies/minions) or to advance an obviously evil goal. They'll readily KickTheDog without any real compunction. They are likely to also cross the MoralEventHorizon but it is not certain.



** The VillainousHarlequin rarely goes below this point.

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** *** IneffectualSympatheticVillain
*** GoldfishPoopGang
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The VillainousHarlequin rarely goes below this point.



* GreaterScopeVillain (such as GodOfEvil) needs to be at or below this point to be taken credibly as a source of all evil (unless they're in a SugarBowl or such where 'all evil' means that they want [[PokeThePoodle to cancel Christmas]]), though because of their tendency of being an OrcusOnHisThrone even the reality-destroying Eldritch Abomination might come across ''less'' vile than the ordinary BigBad.

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* GreaterScopeVillain (such as GodOfEvil) needs to be at or below this point to be taken credibly as a source of all evil (unless they're in a SugarBowl or such where 'all evil' means that they want [[PokeThePoodle to cancel Christmas]]), though because of their tendency of being an OrcusOnHisThrone even the reality-destroying Eldritch Abomination might come across ''less'' vile than the ordinary BigBad.



* Characters who [[EvilFeelsGood plain love being evil]] and are thus likely to cross the MoralEventHorizon.

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* Those are beyond the MoralEventHorizon by default. Some of them reach the CompleteMonster trope, but it is not a necessity to be (a complete one at least).
* Characters who [[EvilFeelsGood plain love being evil]] and are thus likely to cross the MoralEventHorizon.



*** PsychoElectro,

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*** PsychoElectro, PsychoElectro



** {{Serial Killer}}s, as their motive often doesn't go beyond "butchers people for fun".

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** {{Serial Killer}}s, as their motive often doesn't go beyond "butchers people for fun". Even when it does the MoralEventHorizon aspects of the act stills keep them from being above that.




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* GreaterScopeVillain (such as GodOfEvil) needs to be at or below this point to be taken credibly as a source of all evil (unless they're in a SugarBowl or such where 'all evil' means that they want [[PokeThePoodle to cancel Christmas]]), though because of their tendency of being an OrcusOnHisThrone even the reality-destroying Eldritch Abomination might come across ''less'' vile than the ordinary BigBad.


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* Likewise the NonMaliciousMonster borders on being an antagonist, since however a normal animal has no understanding of its actions or their consequences it cannot be held neither morally accountable for them nor knowingly antagonistic.

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