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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
30th Apr, 2019 09:43:54 PM

AKA; "in hindsight" is causing problems again.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
1st May, 2019 02:27:26 AM

...Can we please just kill the hindsight "tropes" already? Pretty please with cherry on top?

XFllo Since: Aug, 2012
1st May, 2019 03:57:40 AM

^ I've never understood the appeal of these either. Seems like anything is anything in hindsight.


Speaking of the spoiler — some people hate being spoiled with passion. It does not describe the event in concrete terms, but it does spoil the endgame of the episode and it's a pretty big reveal. I'd suggest commenting it out with %% markup for a while.

Edited by XFllo
1st May, 2019 04:08:31 AM

^^ & ^: the Hindsight "tropes" are not tropes. They're Audience Reactions.

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HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
1st May, 2019 05:02:23 AM

In theory. In practice, they're "I noticed a meaningless, coincidental surface-level similarity between two unrelated things and for some reason that makes me feel clever."

Piterpicher (Series 2)
1st May, 2019 05:06:15 AM

I think there should just be a Hindsight/ namespace (similar to Fridge/) for those things which is Spoilers Off.

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
1st May, 2019 05:13:55 AM

Or maybe they join the "fridge" tropes?

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Piterpicher (Series 2)
1st May, 2019 05:17:44 AM

That would probably result in many Fridge/ pages getting too long, and overall I wouldn't quite group them in the same category (Fridge examples usually only need the work they come from, while Hindsight requires a comparison between two things).

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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
1st May, 2019 05:25:07 AM

That's why we've been categorizing them separately under trivia and ymmv, but both are an "understanding of a situation or event only after it has happened or developed."

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Brainulator9 Since: Aug, 2018
1st May, 2019 06:40:54 AM

Haha, you said "endgame".

Anyway, I say spoiler tag it. YMMV.Coco does the same thing.

If we start a "in hindsight" discussion thread, let me start it.

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DragonRanger (Troper Knight)
1st May, 2019 09:53:11 AM

I'm tempted to argue in favor of killing everything involving a cross-work comparison. Shout-Out and Mythology Gag, Expy, all of it. I know it's extreme (and even I'm not sure that we'd really want to go that far), but the abuses on all of those are sadly far more common than the legitimate examples.

HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001
1st May, 2019 04:05:23 PM

I agree that something needs to be done.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
1st May, 2019 04:11:05 PM

At the very least we should start a cleanup effort, because this is ridiculous.

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HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001
1st May, 2019 04:33:51 PM

Cross-work references are absolutely a thing, but to count they need to be deliberate, as in there's not a shadow of a doubt that it's a reference and not just two shows using similar tropes or whatever.

Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
1st May, 2019 04:47:50 PM

^ An Audience Reaction like Hilarious in Hindsight means that the audience sees a similarity between two works. It doesn't have to be intentional (in fact, if it is intentional, that might disqualify it from HiH).

Personally, I wouldn't mind making an exception to Spoilers Off when spoiling a different work is inevitable. But ideally, the best solution would be to word the example in a way that doesn't require spoilers.

HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001
1st May, 2019 04:53:37 PM

^ I was more responding to the idea that we need to kill Shout-Out and the like

Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
1st May, 2019 05:00:20 PM

Oh, sorry about that. The tropes like Shout-Out and Expy absolutely need to be clear and deliberate references.

Brainulator9 Since: Aug, 2018
2nd May, 2019 06:02:13 AM

Let's focus on the original topic at hand.

References to other works on Spoilers Off pages: use spoiler tags for other works, but not this one.

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dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
2nd May, 2019 06:06:39 AM

I fear the entry on The LEGO Movie 2 also spoils too much of that film's third act.

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