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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
17th Nov, 2014 11:38:12 PM

...What is the "Mandela Effect"?

Candi Since: Aug, 2012
17th Nov, 2014 11:40:24 PM

"Mandela said [quote]."

"No he didn't, it was [name]."

"Why is Mandela's name attached to it?"

"Because it sounds like something he'd say."

Or the nasty variation: "His detractors were trying to drag him down."

Edited by Candi Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
BinaryStep Since: Dec, 2012
17th Nov, 2014 11:47:31 PM

When people remember something happening a specific way even though it didn't (like how a lot of people remember Mandela dying in the 1980's in prison).

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
18th Nov, 2014 12:01:17 AM

I dunno. Who did tell you to post it here? Trope questions go in the Trope Finder.

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muddycurve424 Since: Jun, 2013
18th Nov, 2014 02:04:01 AM

I did, because he/she wasn't asking what trope best fit the situation, but rather if it ever existed. No one could answer on Trope Finder. I figured if a trope existed and was either removed or changed there might be some record of that somewhere.

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Bisected8 MOD (Primordial Chaos)
18th Nov, 2014 03:14:49 AM

I think we had one called "Lesbians Are Neat" (named after a line from a webcomic) about that, but it doesn't appear to exist anymore.

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wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
18th Nov, 2014 01:43:42 PM

Wouldn't they both just be Ho Yay?

rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
18th Nov, 2014 04:33:10 PM

Do you mean "Het Is Ew"?

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
18th Nov, 2014 04:41:36 PM

^ No, definitely not.

I definitely know the idea this is referring to, but personally, I always thought this was just part of Girl on Girl Is Hot, not a separate trope.

AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013
18th Nov, 2014 05:17:33 PM

I have never seen a trope like that before, but your query matches one inversion of Guy on Guy Is Hot.

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BinaryStep Since: Dec, 2012
18th Nov, 2014 06:45:36 PM

If it helps, I remember this trope was mentioned on a page about idealized/badly-written sex, it also had a section on BDSM.

BinaryStep Since: Dec, 2012
20th Nov, 2014 11:06:39 AM

Aaand bumping the thread.

(Out of curiosity, does anyone else remember any tropes existing that don't?)

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
20th Nov, 2014 03:37:20 PM

I remember a LOT of tropes, that it turns out aren't real. :p Some of them used to be real but got excised, though.

BinaryStep Since: Dec, 2012
22nd Nov, 2014 12:41:34 AM

Ah, out of curiousity, what do you remember?

wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
22nd Nov, 2014 02:44:03 AM

This is going to sound stupid, but... I don't remember. XD

Seriously, though, I remember going through before and being like "WTH, I could've sworn there was a trope for this, where'd it go?!" The only example I can think of offhand, though, would be Did Not Do The Research, which got cut because (I would assume) it was too similar to Critical Research Failure.

theAdeptRogue Since: Nov, 2011
22nd Nov, 2014 04:46:39 AM

^ It was renamed into Artistic License, I believe, because the name "not doing the research" attracts too much complaining.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
22nd Nov, 2014 05:45:35 AM

Actually, it was simply cut and Artistic License kept the index.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BinaryStep Since: Dec, 2012
22nd Nov, 2014 04:46:35 PM

Okay so, I think I found the page Guy On Guy Is Ew was on, Idealized Sex, but the page is completely different than I remember it being.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
22nd Nov, 2014 08:06:52 PM

Wayback Machine on Idealized Sex seems to indicate that the page has been essentially the same since at least July 2012, so that was probably never it.

Edited by nrjxll
BinaryStep Since: Dec, 2012
23rd Nov, 2014 10:54:26 PM

Were there ever any other similar pages to it? Like a Useful Notes or something?

SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
24th Nov, 2014 10:35:31 AM

I feel like Guy On Guy Is Ew would be included in Girl on Girl Is Hot. If you think about it, Girl on Girl Is Hot isn't really tropeworthy if it's just the idea that Girl on Girl Is Hot. That would just be a kind of Author Appeal. It's the hypocrisy/double-standard inherent in the idea that Girl on Girl Is Hot but Guy On Guy Is Ew that makes it noteworthy.

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
24th Nov, 2014 10:47:54 AM

I wouldn't exactly disagree with that, but if we're really discussing a mild change to the definition, we need to at least do that in Trope Talk, not Ask The Tropers.

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SolipSchism Since: Jun, 2014
24th Nov, 2014 10:57:15 AM

I'm not suggesting a change to the definition—I'm suggesting that that is a necessary and already-implied part of the definition.

rodneyAnonymous Since: Aug, 2010
24th Nov, 2014 12:31:42 PM

I agree.

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