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MyFinalEdits (Wise, aged troper)
7th Mar, 2022 09:43:26 PM

For starters, your writeup has grammatical errors ("it's" instead of "its", three times).

Secondly, Twitter is highly unreliable when it comes to gauging receptions, because people tend to knee-jerk over anything there. For them, all DLC characters in SSBU were bad because none of them were Crash or Waluigi, and you'd never tell how well-received the likes of Banjo, Steve, Sephiroth or Sora actually were. I'd check dedicated web forums, Youtube videos and the like to see how the game holds up. And depending on the observations, a decision can be made on whether the game is Even Better Sequel or Contested Sequel.

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
7th Mar, 2022 10:45:51 PM

I agree with My Final Edits, twitter is a cesspool.

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valozzy Since: Feb, 2013
8th Mar, 2022 01:26:16 AM

Is Twitter the only place where this opinion is from? Because (1) Twitter is an awful place to get information from, and (2) I have never heard anyone say that Odyssey is bad.

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Herbert40k Since: Apr, 2012
8th Mar, 2022 04:38:51 AM

I'm in agreement with the other replies here; as a general rule, Twitter is never pleased about anything, but I've only ever heard positive opinions about Odyssey. I'd take Edits's advice and try to find other collaborating sources before making a change like that.

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themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
8th Mar, 2022 04:51:21 AM

Agreed. I have heard nothing but praise for Odyssey. I didn't even know there was a group of people who hated it.

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8BrickMario Since: May, 2013
8th Mar, 2022 05:29:29 AM

I've heard all of those criticisms of the game from non Twitter-rando sources and even agree with some of them, but I don't think it's indicative of fan consensus having changed. Heck, even I would much rather have an Odyssey 2 someday than not, so I have trouble believing there's a genuine tide of heavy dislike for the game.

harryhenry Since: Jan, 2012
8th Mar, 2022 06:17:39 AM

There are more negative opinions now then there were at launch, (since the hype isn't there anymore) but I wouldn't say it's enough to turn the tide of the game's reputation to the point of, say, Condemned by History. Or in this case, Contested Sequel. Feels like Twitter people are just parroting the opinions of that one Joseph Anderson video (in particular the criticism of "too many moons") as their own.

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jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
8th Mar, 2022 09:02:37 AM

These are vocal minority, I'd still say it counts as a Sacred Cow. I know I certainly love it.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
8th Mar, 2022 12:30:38 PM

Yeah. I've heard the complaint (lots of Moons) before, and in some ways agree with it, but certainly not to the point of being a Contested Sequel.

As for Sacred Cow... I'd almost say its removal is Right for the Wrong Reasons. OP's edit reason for its removal "Game is very frequently bashed and seems to be seen as one of the weakest 3D Mario games nowadays." just isn't true, as this thread indicates. That said, I don't think that, at this point, the game has the sheer fervor required for it to be a Sacred Cow. It's a cow that pretty much everyone likes, but I don't envision fans getting upset at people insulting it.

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