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Kriegsmesser Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
Aug 19th 2010 at 7:44:00 AM

Cats Are Mean is Natter-riffic in the Real Life section. ...help?

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Aug 19th 2010 at 7:49:28 AM

^That's easy, just move the whole section to Troper Tales.

edited 19th Aug '10 7:49:50 AM by Fighteer

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Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Aug 19th 2010 at 8:53:46 AM

Rainbow Speak has some pretty bad natter in the New Media section, as well as other places.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
Aug 19th 2010 at 9:07:07 AM

Network Decay has a lot of interesting content, but also an enormous amount of Natter and "thread mode" going on.

edited 19th Aug '10 9:07:28 AM by suedenim

Jet-a-Reeno!
Aug 20th 2010 at 11:36:08 AM

I've noticed some natter in the Tear Jerker page on Real Life (I'm talking about the fifty-something tropers that replied to the Ugly the Cat bullet), but I'm not sure whether I should just axe it or not.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Aug 20th 2010 at 11:42:45 AM

Axe it.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
EmilyG Hollywood Pudgy from Montreal
Aug 20th 2010 at 3:59:15 PM

For what it's worth, I just axed most of the natter in the Ugly the Cat section of Tear Jerkers/Real Life.

Iverum from outside the key
Aug 22nd 2010 at 10:15:15 AM

Break the Cutie could use a helping hand. The Anime section is rather large and seems to be full of Natter to me. If someone would mind going though with shears and trimming up misuse and natter I'd appreciate it.

dysfunctional human artistry
Aug 22nd 2010 at 11:17:20 AM Currently taking a break from the site. See my user page for more information.
Aug 23rd 2010 at 3:41:50 PM

Not natter, but Excuse Plot has begun to repeat itself fairly badly by the bottom of the video game section.

edited 23rd Aug '10 3:42:38 PM by Yamikuronue

BTW, I'm a chick.
Aug 24th 2010 at 6:46:06 PM

The Just Bugs Me page for Hentai is a mess, and it's only a small page. Lots of spelling and grammar mistakes, as well as the unnecessary adding of a troper's name before what they say.

Aug 24th 2010 at 7:03:07 PM

Sci-Fi Writers Have No Sense of Scale already has a banner saying to keep the natter and fan wank away. Doesn't change that many sections still have a ton of it. Just pointing this out for anybody that wants a massive undertaking.

Oonerspism Sax Machine from Winnipeg
Ghilz Fight It Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Fight It Out!
Aug 25th 2010 at 3:53:01 PM

Scrappy Mechanic

Alot of "Bwaaah I don't like this mechanic" "But this thing is awesome!"

edited 25th Aug '10 3:53:11 PM by Ghilz

Aug 26th 2010 at 6:55:48 AM

On the Just Bugs Me page for Fiction in General, there's a whole cluster of natter under theme naming (the very first bullet on the page) with tropers talking about what their names mean. Since that was actually an interesting read, to read about what troper's names mean, but I'm going to leave how to deal with that to someone else. I guess, someone should instruct any future tropers to take their names and their meanings into that page for tropers to post their real names.

blackcat Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Aug 26th 2010 at 8:03:39 AM

How about we make a page for that? Is it a trope? Or a just for fun?

We never go any where without our swords and boas.
OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England
It's super effective.
Aug 26th 2010 at 3:15:18 PM

As I pointed out on Ask The Tropers, Memetic Badass, especially the real life section.

@post 47: I read that as Ash's Charizard.

OldManHoOh It's super effective. from England
It's super effective.
Aug 26th 2010 at 5:28:28 PM

The Food section of Americans Hate Tingle is a complete clusterfuck. I want to axe this completely as Food isn't media. Not to mention there seems to be a fucking edit war for this. WHY?!

edited 26th Aug '10 5:30:16 PM by OldManHoOh

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Aug 26th 2010 at 5:58:39 PM

It's Real Life and if there are edit wars over it, then just axe it.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Meophist from Toronto, Canada
Aug 26th 2010 at 6:08:09 PM

^ The edit war seems to be over the axing, actually.

Helpful Scripts and Stylesheets here.
Oonerspism Sax Machine from Winnipeg
Sax Machine
Aug 26th 2010 at 6:21:50 PM

There's quite a bit of natter on The Artifact, including an impressively large paragraph about Battlestar Galactica.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Aug 26th 2010 at 6:35:32 PM

^ That's not a paragraph. That's a page.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Raso Cure Candy
Cure Candy
Aug 26th 2010 at 6:42:46 PM

* The 2004-2009 Battlestar Galactica remake had a large number of Artifacts, due to the fact that in the later seasons, the writers admitted they had no coherent plan for the overall course of the series...despite the fact that the opening credits themselves hyped ever week that there was a "Cylon Plan" to decode. The resulting Artifacts are quite numerous, but one of the most prominent would be Anastasia Dualla, the radio-operator and more-or-less their Uhura. In the pilot miniseries, they paired her off with President Roslin's assistant Billy, and the general idea is that they'd be the "lowerdecks Everyman couple" in the story. The problem was that the actor playing Billy wanted to leave the show (he was only a third-string character) to work on several pilots for other series he'd be a regular in. Thus his role was drastically reduced when season two started, and he was ultimately killed off fairly quickly in the second half of season two. Unfortunately, the writers hadn't really built up Dualla's relationships or interactions with any other characters besides Billy, and while she was "present" in episodes, she was basically just repeating dialogue from command officers into the radio to pilots, back and forth (exactly like Sigourney Weaver in Galaxy Quest). Further, Dualla/Billy was essentially usurped as the "lowerdecks, Everyman couple" by the unplanned Cally Henderson/Galen Tyrol relationship. Then to create tension, the writers paired off Dualla with the male lead, Apollo. This met with widespread criticism because they had zero chemistry, most of the setup for the relationship was cut for time (but they did it anyway), and fans and critics alike were using Apollo/Dualla as the butt end of a lot of jokes by the end of the second season. Rather than ending it, however, the writers let the relationship drag out for another 20 episodes across the entire third season, possibly to do with that season 3 is when the writers admitted they had only planned out about the first third-to-half of the series. By the end of season three, the relationship was finally ended unceremoniously. However, Dualla's true "The Artifact" moment was in the first half of season 4: the network divided the final season into two halves of 10 episodes each then aired them almost a full year apart, to essentially get two micro-seasons for the price of one. So in the first half, "Season 4.0", Dualla simply didn't....* do* anything. She'd hang around in the background or repeat radio dialogue other characters said, but there was this pervasive unspoken feeling of "why is she still even here?". This is of course, exacerbated by the events of season 3: when the Pegasus was evacuated and sent on a suicide run at the start of season 3, her surviving command staff was integrated into Galactia's: this meant that the Pegasus radio guy, Lt. Hoshi, was now working in Galactica's control room, both of them doing exactly the same job, rendering Dualla even more redundant. In the first episode of "Season 4.5" (which aired after almost a year of just Dualla drifting around in the background), the writers unceremoniously had Dualla randomly commit suicide by putting a pistol to her temple and blowing her brains out (well, everyone was really depressed to find that "Earth" was a nuclear wasteland, but there was no more reason for Dualla to kill herself than any other character). Fans cheered to have her finally removed and that the writers were "cleaning house". Even after the series ended, the head writer has stated that the entire "Apollo/Dualla relationship" is one of the three things he'd take back and never do on the series if he could do it again. What really makes Dualla "The Artifact" is that there's running speculation that she was kept around, simply because the writers had originally intended for her to be a "beloved audience favorite" only to shockingly reveal later on that she was a Cylon sleeper agent. Comments by the writers in the podcasts for later episodes actually loosely confirmed this: there was actually never one person planned to be "the Final Cylon" the whole time, but Dualla was on the short list of potential candidates. Even the head writers * wife* , co-hosting the podcast, said she thought it was Dualla. But as he explained, it came down to a choice between Dualla and Ellen Tigh, and they chose Ellen...simply because they realized that the character of Dualla had deviated so far from her original role, had become so * marginalized* , that it would actually have no dramatic impact to reveal she was a spy the entire time. No one cared.

Up to Eleven much?

Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!

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