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Kexruct nonarySpade from Vvardenfell Since: Mar, 2011
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#26: May 8th 2011 at 2:29:46 PM

See, people like him make REASONABLE Christians like me, look like idiots.

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#27: May 8th 2011 at 2:48:07 PM

[up]This basically.

Jack Chick is just a giant example of Don't Shoot the Message, and it drives me nuts when people think that all Christians are like that. Heck, a lot of how Chick portrays God in his comics is downright unbiblical. I mean, let's see what Jesus himself had to say about people who oppose Christians:

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Hmmm...

Nice job screwing that up, Chick.

edited 8th May '11 2:51:35 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#28: May 8th 2011 at 4:37:01 PM

It amuses me to see reasonable Christians discussing Jack Chick in much the same terms furries use to discuss Otherkin.

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#29: May 8th 2011 at 4:50:56 PM

Eh, Christians (and Jesus!) have a strong aversion to hypocrites. Tends to make us rage at the news at times.

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#30: May 9th 2011 at 1:51:42 PM

Too bad the Bible's kinda hypocritical.Jesus, not so much, contradictory, but if you look at what he said free of interpretation, a coherent picture can be found. Flys in the face of some OT stuff, but still there.

A lot of Church doctrine? Man, every denomination's screwed that pooch a time or two. And it's not a matter of which, just how long it's been around. The other branches haven't had analogues to the Borgia Popes yet, but only because they haven't been around long enough.

I still have a hard time beleiving that anybody buys into Mr. Chick's "work". Even ignoring the outright falsehoods, he seems to have a very warped idea of the level of common knowledge the average American possess about Christianity. Must watch a lot of Jay Leno.

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#31: May 9th 2011 at 2:06:37 PM

It amuses me to see reasonable Christians discussing Jack Chick in much the same terms furries use to discuss Otherkin.
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#32: May 9th 2011 at 3:59:17 PM

[up][up] I once visited a small church(not affiliated with any denomination, but started by some locals in an old building they were renting) that based their entire modus oparendi on those little pamphlets from Chick and another fellow named Win Worley, who frankly made Chick look like Christ himself.

Going into details about the place certainly wouldn't fit the spirit of IJAM, but IJAM that the place finally shut down. Scary as hell(no pun intended), especially to a nine year old.

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#33: May 9th 2011 at 7:48:27 PM

I like to read them. I find them delightfully crazy, though sometimes they make me sad.

I think that my favorite tract is "The Visitors".

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#34: May 10th 2011 at 3:44:36 AM

you dont understand CHIK TRACTS TELL TEH TRUTH U ARE JUST BEIN TEMTED BY SATAN ANS THE CATOLIC CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#35: May 10th 2011 at 3:46:49 AM

I think I once saw one which claimed that the Jesuits created Islam to fight against Protestantism.

That was impressive.

edited 10th May '11 3:48:14 AM by Carciofus

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#37: May 10th 2011 at 3:52:50 AM

Time-traveling Jesuits are the best kind of Jesuit, I suppose.

To be honest, I am not sure if it was Chick or someone else who claimed this, though.

edited 10th May '11 3:53:07 AM by Carciofus

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#39: May 10th 2011 at 1:09:04 PM

I think not, but with Poe's Law and all that you can never be sure. But in any case, I do not even remember where I saw that — it was just that the talk about Chick's Tracts reminded me of it...

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#40: May 10th 2011 at 4:15:07 PM

This Win Worely fellow is indeed scary.

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#41: May 18th 2011 at 1:30:56 PM

I wonder where it get its history info from. Several Ancient Conspiracy claims that sound as if they are actual history to them.

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#42: May 18th 2011 at 8:36:59 PM

I've got to wonder if Chick himself isn't already intentionally invoking Poe's Law and is actually parodying the whole thing.

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#43: May 19th 2011 at 3:54:37 AM

I saw one in my local Wal-mart.

I raged pretty hard.

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#44: May 20th 2011 at 2:51:56 PM

My favorite Chick tract? First Bite. There are vampire dogs, and the name Igor is supposed to be scary, and I have absolutely no idea how much of it is supposed to be real and how much is supposed to be fictional.

TheGunheart Since: Jan, 2001
#45: May 20th 2011 at 9:34:45 PM

[up]Well, by Chick Tract standards, it's almost "cute". Still falls victim to many of his annoying writing tropes, and is a serious Fantastic Aesop, but it doesn't end with a protagonist suddenly being condemned to hell or something at the end.

That said, I will admit that I find the last panel of Somebody Goofed more disturbing than I should. It looks like he was aiming for "scary", landed on "silly", but crashed on the runway and scattered pieces on both.

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#46: May 20th 2011 at 10:25:34 PM

To this day, it still amuses me that in Dark Dungeons, the priest essentially acts as the stereotypical Paladin eliminating an evil cult. It just strikes me as just the right amount of irony seeing as the whole thing was an attack on Dungeons And Dragons.

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Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
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#47: May 21st 2011 at 12:04:16 AM

Speaking of Dark Dungeons, you know what really Just Awes Me?

Someone wrote Jack Chick yuri fanfic.

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TiggersAreGreat Since: Mar, 2011
#48: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:58:38 AM

I tried posting up an Unfortunate Implications example with Chick Tracts. It ended up getting removed, due to the fact that Jack Chick truly meant the implications behind his messages, and the fact that someone else tried editing the example and turned it into an example of dreaded Creator Bashing. Oops. sad

I can tell that Mr. Chick is the very epitome of The Fundamentalist, as well as a Protestant. He has said in one of his tracts that the Vatican is run by the Devil. For the record, I'm a moderate Catholic, and I personally don't see why there should be a problem between Catholics and Protestants. The Bible did say to love your enemies, but Mr. Chick seems to have difficulty demonstrating this towards Catholics.

What I find interesting is how Mr. Chick seems to unintentionally deconstruct a number of lessons in The Bible. Take the tract Lisa. For those who haven't read it, it's about a man who is frustrated at being unable to find a job, and he vents it by watching porn and having sex with his own daughter Lisa. He even lets his neighbour have sex with her...which comes back to haunt him when this one doctor (who is the Author Avatar of Mr. Chick) announces that poor Lisa has herpes, which the neighbour apparently had. The doctor has a come-to-Jesus talk with the man. The man ends up accepting the talk, spends a few minutes praying, and, presto, he is clean of his sins! The man, in turn, talks to his wife, and they discuss the abuse they have subjected Lisa to. The wife spends a few minutes praying, and just like that, she is clean as well! They go to Lisa and apologize to her and promise not to hurt her again. (Perhaps the parents will convince Lisa and the neighbour to spend a few minutes praying).

There is a large amount of Fridge Horror attached to this tract. You know how Mr. Chick could have cranked up the Fridge Horror? By having the man be a priest! It may not have been his intention, but Mr. Chick ended up showing that a number of lessons in The Bible, such as forgiveness, sound good on paper but would be horrible in reality (especially if they were taken to their logical conclusions). Also, what certainly undermines the tract is the use of the trope Religion is Magic. Sure, The Bible may have used the trope, but I feel obliged to point out that there is nothing magical about religion in Real Life. In short, reading some of Chick Tracts will tell you all you need to know about The Fundamentalist, and then some!

edited 16th Sep '11 7:59:46 AM by TiggersAreGreat

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#49: Sep 17th 2011 at 7:58:59 AM

[up] By the way, yesterday or today, I just realized something interesting. If you take Jack Chick's name and turn it into initials, you get JC. Jesus Christ has the same initials. I'm willing to bet you that Jack Chick is not the man's real name, but it may in fact be a pseudonym he came up with. If that's the case, then at least he didn't name himself Jesus Christ. Can you imagine the reaction people would give to that?

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#50: Sep 17th 2011 at 9:46:50 AM

I'm fairly sure the man really is named Jack Chick.

I don't really understand why a priest would be any creepier than a random passerby telling them to repent.

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