This thread is for tropers who have trouble with English and would like some help with the crazy grammar of this crazy language.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Perfect, not imperfect. Imperfect is a tense to describe ongoing or habitual past actions, for which English uses the past progressive, simple past, or "would" or "used to."
My posts make considerably more sense read in the voice of John Ratzenberger.OK clarifying the In the Blood addition, the one where your confused it is Revel who put the curse of Zander to fall in love with a Humanimal because he thought a Humanimal was the most disgusting thing in the universe
Does that make things clearer now?
I'm not asking you to clarify it to me because I personally want to know. I'm saying that you have used ambiguous syntax and should correct it.
Scepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom. - Clarence DarrowI know I make a bunch of grammar faux paus that is why my account is suspended, That's why I post my entries on this thread so people can correct whatever mistakes I make and post them for me.
Can someone help me with this edit?
- Child Prodigy: Avatar The Last Airbender has Aang, Toph and Azula, who are all shown to be extremely talented in their respective superpowered martial arts. Aang is the youngest Master Airbender in the history and a Physical God, who mastered all three remaining bending arts within a span of twelve months, when it usually took many years for the previous Avatars. Toph is 12 years old and already self-proclaimed “the best earthbender on the world”, having no problem with beating crap out of people twice her size and experience. She is also an inventor of metalbending, skill that was through to be Beyond the Impossible. Azula was shown to be capable of pulling firebending tricks her older and relatively skilled brother had problems with, at a very young age. They all become Teen Geniuses as the series progress.
edited 29th Apr '12 1:15:33 PM by Ciabella
- Child Prodigy: Avatar The Last Airbender has Aang, Toph, and Azula, who are all shown to be extremely talented in their respective superpowered martial arts. Aang is the youngest Master Airbender in
thehistory and a Physical God, who mastered all three remaining bending arts within a span of twelve months, when it usuallytooktakes many years for the previous Avatars. Toph is 12 years old and already self-proclaimed “the best earthbenderonin the world”, having no problem with beating crap out of people twice her size and experience. She is also an inventor of metalbending, a skill that wasthroughthought to be Beyond the Impossible. At a very young age, Azula was shown to be capable of pulling firebending tricks her older and relatively skilled brother had problems with, at a very young age. They all become Teen Geniuses as the series progresses.
Overall, that's a good paragraph; the mistakes are very small and it's always still clear what you mean. Do you need someone to add it to a page — if so, which? (I've got to go to bed now, so I won't be able to.)
edited 29th Apr '12 1:35:26 PM by Telcontar
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.ChildProdigy:
*''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' has Aang, Toph, and Azula, each of whom is shown to be extremely talented in their respective superpowered martial arts. All three become {{Teen Genius}}es as the series progresses.
** Aang is the youngest Master Airbender in history and a PhysicalGod who mastered all three remaining bending arts within a span of twelve months, a feat that took many years for the previous Avatars.
** Toph is 12 years old and already the self-proclaimed “Best earthbender in the world”. She backs this talk up by beating the crap out of people twice her size and who have much more experience. She is also the inventor of metalbending, a skill previously thought to be BeyondTheImpossible.
** At a very young age, Azula was shown pulling off firebending techniques her older and relatively skilled brother Zuko had problems with.
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edited 29th Apr '12 4:41:19 PM by DarkConfidant
That version looks best to me, although I would move the fourth second-level bullet up to the end of first bullet, like so:
- Avatar The Last Airbender has Aang, Toph, and Azula, each of whom is shown to be extremely talented in their respective superpowered martial arts. All three become Teen Geniuses as the series progresses.
- Aang is the youngest Master Airbender in history and a Physical God who mastered all three remaining bending arts within a span of twelve months, a feat that took many years for the previous Avatars.
- Toph is 12 years old and already the self-proclaimed “Best earthbender in the world”. She backs this talk up by beating the crap out of people twice her size and who have much more experience. She is also the inventor of metalbending, a skill previously thought to be Beyond the Impossible.
- At a very young age, Azula was shown pulling off firebending techniques her older and relatively skilled brother Zuko had problems with.
- Trubbish garbage bag Pokémon 567
- Garbodor trash heap Pokémon 568
the Trubbish species is a small garbage bag brought to life
The Grabodor species is a large living mass of wast
Trubbish is a small bag of human garbage that gained intelligence. It has arms formed by some of the waste bursting through and retaining a simple structure. It has large white eyes with tiny pupils and several sharp teeth believed by some to be broken glass.
Diet
Despite the large teeth Trubbish is not a predator. It is a forager roaming cities and garbage dumps looking for any type of matter. Trubbish well absorb anything it finds into its body where it will be forced into the center and be broken down. When Trubbish has accumulated enough mass bag skin will rip open and it will become Garbodor.
This is harder than I thought
edited 14th May '12 12:39:21 PM by RandomChaos
With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill.Er... What is that for?
I think it's for a new entry for the The Pokedex Extended Fanon Edition.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Bingo
With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill. The Trubbish species is a are small garbage bags brought to life
The Grabodor species is a are large living mass of waste
Trubbish is a small bag of human garbage that gained intelligence. It has arms formed by some of the waste bursting through and retaining a simple structure. It has large white eyes with tiny pupils and several sharp teeth believed by some to be broken glass. Diet:
Despite the large teeth, Trubbish is not a predator. It is a forager roaming cities and garbage dumps looking for any type of matter. Trubbish will absorb anything it finds into its body where it will be forced into the center and be broken down. When Trubbish has accumulated enough mass, bagged skin will rip open and it will become Garbodor.
edited 15th May '12 11:56:06 AM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Trubbish will absorb anything it finds into its body where it will be forced into the center and be broken down. When Trubbish has accumulated enough mass, its bagged skin will rip open and it will become Garbodor.
edited 15th May '12 11:52:29 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The post as a whole, reflecting things and pointed out, and looking at the formatting of the other pages of its type:
- Trubbish
garbage bag Pokémon[#567] - Garbodor
trash heap Pokémon[#568]
the Trubbish species is a small garbage bag brought to life.
The Grabodor species is a large living mass of waste.
Trubbish is a small bag of human garbage that gained intelligence. It has arms, which are formed by some of the waste bursting through the bag and retaining a simple structure. It has large white eyes with tiny pupils and several sharp teeth, believed by some to be broken glass.
Diet
Despite the large teeth, Trubbish is not a predator. It is a forager, roaming cities and garbage dumps looking for any type of matter. Trubbish well absorbs anything it finds into its body, where it will beis forced into the center and be broken down. When Trubbish has accumulated enough mass, its bag skin will rips open and it will becomes Garbodor.
For Der Rosenkavalier:
- Working Title: the working title of Der Rosenkavalier was Der Ochs auf Lerchenau. Strauss didn't care much for the definitive title Hofmannsthal suggested: he wanted to have his favourite character's name in there. Everyone around him urged him to change it to Der Rosenkavalier, however, and Strauss finally gave in, saying: "Also Rosenkavalier, der Teufel hol ihn"*.
- Working Title:
tThe working titleof Der Rosenkavaliernote was Der Ochs auf Lerchenau. Strauss didn't care much for thedefinitivetitle Hofmannsthal suggested:heStrauss wanted to have his favourite character's name in there. However,Eeveryone around him urged him to changeitthe title to Der Rosenkavalier, however, and Strauss finally gave in, saying:, "Also Rosenkavalier, der Teufel hol ihn"note .
The note markup is a replacement for hottips, and is [[note]]"Der Rosenkavalier, then — to the devil with it!"[[/note]].
edited 16th May '12 4:54:38 PM by Nocturna
There's a quote I'd like to add to the Quotes.Mundane Made Awesome page, but it's in French and I'm struggling with the translation —
"Sans doute y a-t-il de l'orgueil dans ce souci d'embellir la réalité, mais alors comme l'on souhaiterait parfois que les écrivains aient un peu plus d'orgueil ! Et d'ailleurs n'y a-t-il pas plus d'orgueil (et pas mal de sottise aussi) chez certains auteurs qui racontent tels quels les incidents les plus insignifiants de leur existence, naïvement persuadés que tout ce qui a été vécu par eux devient, de ce seul fait, plein d'intérêt et de poésie?" (René Pommier on Chateaubriand's Mémoires d'Outre-Tombe)
"This concern with embellishing reality is undoubtedly a sign of pride; but then, how one wishes sometimes that writers had a little more pride! And besides, isn't there more pride (and a lot more silliness too) in the way some authors tell the most insignificant events of their lives exactly the way they happened, naively convinced as they are that everything they have experienced is, because of this alone, full of interest and poetry?"
edited 3rd Jun '12 4:12:21 PM by Fresison
The translation looks fine to me.
Can someone help me with this Playing with Reincarnation Romance? I'm not sure if it's all gramatically correct.
- Basic Trope: Two characters who were lovers in previous life meet again and fall in love.
- Played Straight: Bob and Susan are Star-Crossed Lovers who can’t be together due to the war between their countries. They commit double suicide to be Together in Death, but instead they are reborn and reunited some time later.
- Exaggerated: Bob and Susan are in a group marriage with Lucy, Jack and Ichigo. They reunited together each single time they come back to the Earth.
- Justified: Gods decide that Susan and Bob need a second chance. They send their souls back on the Earth and arrange for them to be reborn close to each other, so they can meet again and fell in love.
- Bob and Susan are reborn with all of their old memories, so they all still in love, actively seeking each other out.
- Inverted: ???
- Subverted: Susan only thinks she was Bob’s lover in her previous life. In reality they were siblings.
- Double Subverted: Bob and Susan were Not Blood Siblings but they bond over time spent together and end up Happily Married.
- Bob and Susan were brother and sister, but they still didn’t care and started a relationship anyway.
- Parodied: A fortune teller tells Bob about his tragic love story in a previous life, but promises him an epic romance in this one with the same person. He is all excited to meet his destined lover only to become terribly embarrassed, when it turns out Susan reincarnated as his high school buddy, he did skirt-chasing with.
- Deconstructed: Susan comes back many years after Bob is reborn. When they finally meet there is a big age difference between them and society they live in is not going to accept this relationship. They end up as Star-Crossed Lovers again.
- Bob is already married to Stacy when he meets Susan again. Through he does love her back, feelings he had for his wife are still there. It leadS to a situation in which: Bob is thorn between two women he loves, Stacy is angry and confused over her husband suddenly leaving her for an unknown woman and Susan desperately tries to keep Bob at her side. It all ends up in another tragedy.
- Susan and Bob wait for each other but they never meet. World is a very big place and it’s difficult to find one specific person among billions of others.
- Reconstructed: Susan and Bob decide that keeping social taboos is not worthy their happiness and get married anyway. In the next life they somehow make sure to be reborn at the same time and live Happily Ever After.
- After some Character Development and bonding moments Susan and Stacy work out their problems. They agree to share Bob between themselves. For some reason Stacy joins a whole reincarnation romance thing and they continue their triangular relationship through the next lives.
- Susan and Bob guided by the Power of Love finally find each other.
- Played with: ???
- Adverted: Bob and Susan never become lovers, in this life and any other.
- Enforced: “We need to add some tragedy to our romance and show how much these two are destined for each other. Let’s make Bob and Susan reborn Star-Crossed Lovers.
- Lampshaded: “So we are reincarnated lovers? No wonder we jumped at each other so fast. A few hundred years of separation tends to do this to people."
- Invoked: Bob and Susan want to be reunited in their future life so they go through a special soul-bonding ritual.
- Defined: ???
- Discussed: “Isn’t it surprising how well these two seem to know each other, even though they are talking for just ten minutes? Maybe they had meet in the previous life.”
- Conversed: “I can bet they are going to make Susan and Bob reincarnated lovers. It’s an only explanation for these strange dreams and flashbacks. “
- Played For Laugh: ???
- Played For Drama: ???
- Basic Trope: Two characters who were lovers in a previous life meet again and fall in love.
- Played Straight: Alice and Bob are Star-Crossed Lovers who can’t be together due to the war between their countries. They commit double suicide to be Together in Death, but instead they are reborn and reunited in a future lifetime.
- Exaggerated: Alice and Bob are in a group marriage with Lucy, Jack and Ichigo. They fall in love in every one of their reincarnations.
- Justified:
- The Gods decide that Alice and Bob deserve a second chance. They send their souls back to Earth and arrange for them to be reborn close to one another, so they can meet again and fall in love.
- Bob and Susan are reborn with all of their old memories, so they are still in love, actively seeking each other out.
- Inverted: ???
- Subverted: Alice only thinks she was Bob’s lover in her previous life. They were actually siblings.
- Double Subverted:
- Alice and Bob were Not Blood Siblings but they bond over time spent together and end up Happily Married.
- Alternately, Alice and Bob actually were brother and sister, but they didn’t care and started a relationship anyway.
- Parodied: A fortune teller tells Bob about his tragic love story in a previous life, but promises him an epic romance in this one with the same person. He is excited to meet his destined lover only to become terribly embarrassed, when it turns out Alice is now an old friend, or now male.
- Deconstructed:
- Alice comes back many years after Bob is reborn. When they finally meet there is a big age difference between them and society is not going to accept the relationship. They end up as Star-Crossed Lovers again as a result.
- Bob is already married to Stacy when he meets Alice again. Through he does love her back, feelings he had for his wife are still there. It leads to a situation in which Bob is torn between two women he loves. Stacy is angry and confused over her husband suddenly leaving her for an unknown woman and Alice desperately tries to keep Bob at her side. It all ends up in another tragedy.
- Alice and Bob wait for each other but they never meet, as they were born on opposite sides of the world.
- Reconstructed:
- Alice and Bob decide to reject social norms and get married anyway. In the next life they somehow make sure to be reborn at the same time and live Happily Ever After.
- After some Character Development and bonding moments Alice and Stacy work out their problems. They agree to share Bob between themselves. For some reason Stacy is reincarnated to continue their triangular relationship through future lives.
- Alice and Bob, guided by the Power of Love, finally find each other.
- Played with: ???
- Averted: Alice and Bob were never lovers, in this life or any other.
- Enforced: “We need to add some tragedy to our romance and show how much these two are destined for each other. Let's reincarnate them and have them be Star-Crossed Lovers in the next life too.
- Lampshaded: “So we are reincarnated lovers? No wonder we jumped at each other so fast. A few hundred years of separation tends to do this to people."
- Invoked: Alice and Bob want to be reunited in their future life so they go through a special soul-bonding ritual.
- Defined: ???
- Discussed: “Isn’t it surprising how well these two seem to know each other, even though they've been talking for just ten minutes? Maybe they had meet in the previous life.”
- Conversed: “I can bet they are going to make Alice and Bob reincarnated lovers. It’s an only explanation for these strange dreams and flashbacks. “
- Played For Laugh: ???
- Played For Drama: ???
Went with Alice and Bob since... that's the generally accepted terminology here.
edited 6th Jun '12 1:33:59 PM by DarkConfidant
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Someone actually remembered... to use indentation.. in a Playing With page... *faints*
Have a cookie, Confi. You're making my current project that little bit easier.
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That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.Well, I cleaned it up a bit more, since it wasn't quite right. How's that looking?
Thanks for help :). You didn't have to change "Susan" to "Alice" because there are also different names used and acceppted on "Playing with" pages. I would also appreciate it, if you mark the areas you changed. It's makes it easier for me when I transfer these changes on my own post.
@Rockhopper/Oreochan:
"She was infamous on her home world for being a mare who Really Gets Around but has since
comecame to settle down""...has since come to settle..." is correct. It's the
imperfectperfect, so you use the past participle of "come", which unusually is the same as the present. "I come, I came, I have come".Bah, I always mix those two up. I blame the French.
edited 20th Apr '12 10:44:52 AM by johnnye