Manhwa and Manhua example sorting in trope lists. (What media category/folder/subpage should they go under?)

Is there a reason lumping it into Anime and Manga would be better than just making a separate folder? I've always done that; seems kinda obvious to me.

I agree

Saying Chinese and Korean Comics should go under the folder about Japanese Comics because of association is like saying Golden Retrievers should go under a "Domestic Cats" folder because they're both domestic.

Like, what?

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 7th 2024 at 1:42:51 AM

TBH, I'm also left wondering where the hell those 'every issue is a single very long strip' comics go, 'specially as I remember a ton of them being sort of translated and published through some app...? But it's not, obviously, full print-media level publication (and god is that a blurred line).

Edited by RainehDaze on Jan 6th 2024 at 5:52:43 PM

I know what you're talking about. Pretty sure those are webcomics and should be sorted accordingly.

Out of all the options, I'm gonna state that giving Manhua and Manhwa their own folders is the least headache-inducing option out of all of these. Unless anyone is able give me a convincing argument as to why we shouldn't do that.

Are there meaningful differences between Manhua and Manhwa btw or they are effectively the same except the country?

Both of them are literally just "comics from China and Korea" respectively

If you ask me, I'd just have them under the Comic Book/ namespace. But that's what I think.

To reiterate, there is no difference between the two besides country.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 7th 2024 at 5:08:31 PM

Well we're talking about folders in trope pages, though now that it's brought up, putting them into "Comic Books" folder would make sense to me. We no longer separate Light Novels. What to do with namespaces is an entirely different question, which is probably worth threading after this one is done.

Edited by Amonimus on Jan 7th 2024 at 12:22:10 PM

Edit: Apparently was referring to Light Novels

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 7th 2024 at 5:28:07 PM

...we do, though? Visual novels still get their own folders, unless something changed since last I checked.

We put them into "Literature" folders, or into "Anime & Manga" if an example is from an adaptation, what's the confusion?

e: Hold on.

Edited by Amonimus on Jan 7th 2024 at 12:21:17 PM

You're thinking of light novels. Visual novels are something else entirely

Yes, I've spaced out while typing for another thread. I apologize.

Edited by Amonimus on Jan 7th 2024 at 12:25:42 PM

Yeah, it's alright.

Anyways, I'm also good with just lumping them into the "Comic Books" folder/subpage like how we lump Light Novels into the Literature folder.

It happens.

The thing is though, light novels aren't just being sorted into broader folders. The namespace itself is defunct. So it would be odd to do the same here if Manhua / Manwa remain as namespaces.

Maybe we should tackle the namespaces first and whether we should have them at all? That's how we handled it in the LightNovel/ namespace and example placement thread

Media folders don't match namespaces anyway, so it doesn't bother me. If Manhua/ and Manhwa/ should remain as namespace (I personally don't see the point and there's not that many of them), maybe we can consider if this should be discussed here or somewhere in parallel.

Just looking at Article Count

Manhua currently has 104 articles while Manhua currently has 64 articles

It's actually less than the number of articles LightNovel/ had (which was around 800-1000 if I remember correctly)

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 7th 2024 at 5:36:51 PM

Went ahead with it.

I vote for them to go under their own separate folder. Not only they are distinct enough to deserve a separate folder from Comic Books, but also it would be the easiest solution.

If we decide to put them under Comic Books, I'm pretty sure that most people (outside of the few who follow the forums) will continue to be unsure as to where to put them and the misclassification will continue.

If they get their own separate folder, it will pretty clear for everyone where the examples go. If they see that certain trope page contains a Manhua and Manhwa folder, they will immediately know where to put future Manhua/Manhwa examples. It feels like the most sound solution.

We're sort of discussing the Manhwas and Manhwa/ namespaces in another thread before we continue with this one, so I suggest you pop into that one. But could you please explain why you think Manhwa and Manhua are distinct enough to be separate from Comic Book/?

Alright, the crowner in this thread has agreed to keep both Manhua/ and Manhwa/ as namespaces

If anime and manga get a single folder I don't see issue with lumping manhua and manhwa into one folder either

Anime and Manga are lumped together because they're so deeply connected in a way other mediums aren't. Manhua and Manhwa aren't. Just give them unique folders.

Yeah

I'd prefer just giving them both two separate folders because they're not connected

Manhua/ examples should go in a Manhua folder

Manhwa/ examples should go in a Manhwa folder

Whichever option we choose, I think I'll throw this suggestion out:
Disallow Manhua and Manhwa examples from being put in the "Anime & Manga" folder/subpage unless the Manhua or Manhwa has been adapted into an anime. Like Solo Leveling.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Jan 21st 2024 at 2:17:10 AM