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Bullman "The Juice is Loose." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"The Juice is Loose."
#176: Jul 15th 2022 at 5:12:15 PM

Again it makes more sense than listing a whole Realm under one character. The number of folders don't matter just if it meets the bite count, I mean MCU: Pym Family has less folders and was made by this thread. So I say either wait for Gorr on his own to be big enough or make a Shadow Realm page.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#177: Jul 15th 2022 at 9:43:12 PM

So I removed the Shadow Realm section from Gorr's page and he's nearly there at 37K. wait a little bit at he'll be over 40K in no time.

I also want to move the Dark God over to the Cosmic section under the Shadow Realm, as they aren't technically a God. Also possibly rename him, but I have no better names.

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#178: Jul 15th 2022 at 10:09:20 PM

Okay, so I checked back in on that page now, and now all of my edits have been reverted, so now if I get rid of the misuse on that page, I'm gonna be edit warring, so I'm quickly gonna go through the edits I made here and then get rid of them on the main page so a copy/paste routine doesn't add the misuse back in (this was 100% my fault for not double checking the main page, so I assume they just got copy/pasted back in during a page update).

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  • Even Evil Has Standards:
    • It's shown that while he will kill any god no matter how good and noble they actually are, there's nothing to suggest he kills innocent people. Though many would probably suffer if they relied on their gods to live. (This just never comes up in the movie itself, so it's speculative at best. There's just not enough info to make an example out of it)
  • From Nobody to Nightmare: Before, Gorr was just a peaceful priest, a father whose daughter died during a famine ironically caused by Thanos's snap. Then he meets his god and is heart-broken to learn just how much of a jerk said god is. Then he gets chosen by the Necrosword and begins rampaging across the cosmos, slaying every god he can find and unleashing chaos when he does so. (That bolded part is nothing more than a fan theory that is never even suggested in the movie itself. Clear misuse)
  • Irony: Gorr's vengeance could not have started earlier than before Thanos's snap, as the 1500 distress signals the guardians suddenly recieved in Love and Thunder (5 years after Endgame) was a simultaneous one. What the Mad Titan did NOT factor into his calculus was that by reducing half of all plants and animal life, half of all available food dissapeared, causing catastrophic famines such as the one that starved Gorr's people and his little girl to death. Gorr's rage demonstrates once more that Thanos's intended mercy of plenty instead wrought even more misery through the grief and hatred that it left behind instead. (Same issue. It's a cool theory, but it's still just a theory and is pretty clear misuse) Edit: I see this one has already been deleted from the main page, so I guess forget about this one
  • Master Swordsman: Gorr, who at best 5 years ago (before The Snap ironically starved his people to extinction) was but a peaceful mortal priest who has not even held a weapon in his life, is able to through sheer hatred alone attain enough skill and might in swordsmanship to defeat and literally disarm Lady Sif, a warrior who is at least Thor's equal in age and skill of fifteen centuries, and then proceed to carve a bloody swathe through 1499 more planets of their gods and people. (Same thing)
  • Near-Villain Victory: Gorr is a complex play on the trope, since his strategy of tricking Thor into giving him Stormbreaker so he can access Eternity succeeds completely... but with the Necrosword destroyed in the final fight, Gorr is freed from his curse and changes the wish he was going to make. You might say that Gorr won, and the God Butcher lost. (This isn't a "complex play", it's just not this trope. Gorr just straight up wins, the only thing that makes it a good thing is that he changes his goal. There's no final push from the hero that makes them win instead, Gorr just changes his priority)
  • Omnicidal Maniac: His modus operandi. He will kill any and all gods, of any sort from any pantheon, one by one if need be. And he'll do it with a smile on his face. (Gorr's not omnicidal, he's deicidal - he's not trying to destroy the world or the universe or anything like that, just wiping out the various gods. I'm unsure of this one but I'm like 99% sure it's misuse)

That's on top of the grammar fixes I made in that edit as seen here, plus a minor expansion to Nay-Theist. Is there any issue with me redoing this edit on the sandbox and main page so this doesn't happen again?

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Jul 15th 2022 at 1:19:10 PM

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#179: Jul 15th 2022 at 10:23:41 PM

[up]Whoops, my bad. I just meant to crosswick added examples from the actual folder. If you want to revert it I won't call it edit-warring. I just copy and pasted from the main page.

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NghtFury95 Since: Feb, 2019
#180: Jul 16th 2022 at 12:54:57 AM

I have removed the misuses from the main page. If some of those misuses are not actually misuses, feel free to add them back.

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#181: Jul 16th 2022 at 6:10:44 PM

Thank you for that, I appreciate it, and again, sorry for any confusion that that caused

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#182: Jul 16th 2022 at 9:26:58 PM

So I want to suggest moving the Celestials to the deities page and the dark god to the cosmic page under the shadow realm. I’m also wondering if for species for the god what species should be used. Ninny the Nonnie is a Kronan god so is he technically a kronan or does god come first? And on the MCU wikia the Egyptian Gods are listed as the Ennead for the whole race. Should that be adopted?

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#183: Jul 16th 2022 at 9:31:24 PM

Taking this one point at a time:

I'm cool with moving the Celestials to Deities. They were barely separable from Gods anyway before Love and Thunder had one show up in Omnipotent City.

I'm also cool with the Dark God being moved to Cosmic. As for species, do we even know what it was? I don't think it ever got mentioned or that we could clearly see the corpse. If we can't figure it out just list it as "unknown", cause we technically don't even know if it was a god much less what its species was.

As for the other gods with confirmed species, I personally would put their species as "God (race)" because that way it avoids the issue entirely and gets both facets of the race in there. So in Ninny's case, I would put "God (Kronan)".

I can't speak on the Egyptian Gods because I haven't seen Moon Knight, so I'd wait until someone who actually did see it can weigh in.

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#184: Jul 16th 2022 at 10:04:31 PM

Thanks. I kind of jumbled my words there.

Edit: Celestials and the Dark God are moved.

Edited by GateStarX on Jul 16th 2022 at 10:18:18 AM

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#185: Jul 17th 2022 at 8:26:00 PM

I did some more crosswicking and got Gorr of 40K. Can someone please doublecheck my work for misuse? I think its all good to go for me to launch but I want someone to check it over for me.

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#186: Jul 18th 2022 at 8:26:31 AM

It looks all good to me! I did one last check and removed Near-Villain Victory again, but it's still past 41K so it should be fine to launch.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#187: Jul 18th 2022 at 10:48:22 AM

Should Hela's helmet be moved from MCU: Others to Hela's page? That probably determines whether the Necrosword goes to Gorr's page.

The Shadow Monsters can also probably be included on Gorr's page.

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#188: Jul 18th 2022 at 10:51:17 AM

I'm fine moving Hela's helmet - it's all hers after all - but personally, that doesn't necessarily mean the Necrosword also has to move. The sword is confirmed to have had other wielders use it and Gorr's just the latest - that'd be kinda like putting the Infinity Stones on Thanos's page to me.

Can go either way on the Shadow Monsters now that Gorr's page is made.

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#189: Jul 18th 2022 at 10:54:54 AM

I wonder if it wouldn't hurt to at least link to where the Necrosword can be found.

Though considering the Berserkers are at Hela's page, I'm pretty strongly in favor of having the Shadow Monsters with Gorr.

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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#190: Jul 18th 2022 at 10:56:28 AM

Like I said, while we were sandboxing Gorr's page there was the question of what all should go on it (cause for a hot second the entire Shadow Realm was in there) - I'm cool with the Shadow Monsters going there.

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Jul 18th 2022 at 1:56:43 PM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#191: Jul 18th 2022 at 10:57:29 AM

The entire Shadow Realm? If it was actually Gorr's, then maybe, but as it is, not so much [lol]

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Bullman "The Juice is Loose." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"The Juice is Loose."
#192: Jul 18th 2022 at 11:30:48 AM

I could go either way on the shadow monsters going on Gorr's page.

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ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#193: Jul 18th 2022 at 3:33:20 PM

Oh, and you want Vile Villain, Saccharine Show instead of Knight of Cerebus. I've done that.

Edited by ACW on Jul 18th 2022 at 6:34:09 AM

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#194: Jul 18th 2022 at 5:18:46 PM

Ok so this is where it gets tricky. The shadow monsters are creations of the necrosword, which is In turn wielded by multiple people and linked to the shadow realm. So im not even sure if the shadow monsters exist by themselves or are a direct byproduct of the necrosword.

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#195: Jul 18th 2022 at 9:34:56 PM

So Sandbox.MCU Ghost Rider is over 40K by himself. That should probably be looked at.

I’m also going to launch Gorr later tonight unless there are any objections?

Edit: Gorr is launched.

Edited by GateStarX on Jul 19th 2022 at 2:34:20 AM

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Bullman "The Juice is Loose." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"The Juice is Loose."
#196: Jul 19th 2022 at 7:08:01 AM

Ghost Rider is a title in the MCU so wouldn't it makes more sense to also include Johnny blaze there?

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GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#197: Jul 19th 2022 at 12:11:56 PM

Well I agree but I couldn’t get the formatting to look nice, and by himself Robbie Reyes is over 40K.

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NghtFury95 Since: Feb, 2019
#198: Jul 20th 2022 at 1:49:25 AM

GateStarX and I have pretty much agreed that when Johnny Blaze is formally introduced in the MCU and has his own page, the title of his page will be "Johnny Blaze" since Robbie Reyes is officially the first Ghost Rider to be shown in the MCU.

Bullman "The Juice is Loose." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"The Juice is Loose."
#199: Jul 20th 2022 at 10:37:03 AM

I don't know. You could do something like this:

Other Ghost Riders:

    Johnny Blaze 
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Bullman "The Juice is Loose." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"The Juice is Loose."
#200: Jul 20th 2022 at 12:48:39 PM

Also didn't we decide that the Necrosword wasn't going on MCU: Gorr the God Butcher. Because it's there right now.

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