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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#1: Mar 7th 2022 at 12:20:31 AM

On the recently launched Feral Villain, an image of post-Villainous Breakdown Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective was added. The problem is that even in this wild and deranged state, Ratigan's got too much presence of mind to qualify for this trope, so he's not an example. An example citing him as this trope was actually removed because TRS determined he didn't qualify.

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#3: Mar 7th 2022 at 3:32:27 AM

Pull.

Edited by jandn2014 on Mar 7th 2022 at 6:32:32 AM

back lol
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#6: Mar 7th 2022 at 10:04:16 AM

This has apparently already been pulled by ~infitroper, so I'm pinging them here. I agree to pull this, but you can't act unilaterally.

Edit: Gah, typo sad

Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 7th 2022 at 1:04:46 PM

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#7: Mar 7th 2022 at 10:06:16 AM

Whatever, I’ll tag the page anyway.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ratiganferal.jpg
Ratigan's Villainous Breakdown makes him go from posh to primal.

EDIT: After the cooldown timer runs out.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Mar 7th 2022 at 1:06:45 PM

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#8: Mar 7th 2022 at 10:07:26 AM

Take 2: ~Infitroper

They pulled it on "not an example" charges, which isn't a reason in and of itself...

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#9: Mar 7th 2022 at 10:22:33 AM

I put the image back on the page because we didn't have enough consensus to pull it yet.

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#10: Mar 7th 2022 at 10:34:41 AM

Why not Keep Until Better Image Suggested as TIINAE? I wasn't too involved in the Generic Doomsday Villain TRS, but in the current I see a contrast between a hulking, crazy anthro animal and a presumably saner and not-feral one. The fact that he still has mental faculties at this point is not going to be known by the majority of readers.

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#11: Mar 7th 2022 at 11:07:20 AM

[up]

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Infitroper Since: Oct, 2016
#12: Mar 7th 2022 at 11:37:33 AM

At the very least, I think the image text should be either changed or removed, as it is misleading. The trope is specifically talking about villains being feral as their defining trait, but the text clearly states that he is being uncharacteristically feral.

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#14: Mar 7th 2022 at 12:41:24 PM

13.1 is good.

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#15: Mar 7th 2022 at 5:53:30 PM

Even if the movie's not an example, the image does a decent job of illustrating the concept. I'd say to just put the trope on This Image Is Not an Example and keep the image until or unless a better replacement can be found.

Stage7-4 Since: Dec, 2014
#16: Mar 7th 2022 at 6:34:12 PM

[up] But at least quality bump with 13.1 while we're here.

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#17: Mar 7th 2022 at 8:06:58 PM

Looking at the cleanup thread for Generic Doomsday Villain and what Feral Villain is supposed to be, I think we should just move the current picture on Generic Doomsday Villain to Feral Villain.

Maybe that's not quite right (that clean up hasn't finished yet), but it seems like is in line with the goal of the cleanup thread.

Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#18: Mar 7th 2022 at 8:51:12 PM

[up] Agreed. Especially if Generic Doomsday Villain gets erased as a trope.

Infitroper Since: Oct, 2016
#19: Mar 7th 2022 at 8:53:21 PM

[up] I concur with that. Especially since the narration in the image is in line with the page quote, which I think is a pretty accurate representation of the spirit of the trope.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
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#21: Mar 9th 2022 at 5:14:40 AM

Sounds like a great idea for now.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 9th 2022 at 4:14:56 PM

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#24: Mar 9th 2022 at 8:10:50 AM

1 prefer 13.1 to the image of Generic Doomsday Villain.

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Image Pickin': Feral Villain
11th Mar '22 8:28:56 AM

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