rewrite and rename
Renaming to Bald Head Of Authority and rewriting sounds good. Would that mean Bald Black Leader Guy is a subtrope?
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 25th 2021 at 5:44:57 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.yes. it currently is labeled a subtrope of Bald Of Awesome already, so nothing would change if we rewrote and renamed
Edited by amathieu13 on Dec 25th 2021 at 10:15:45 AM
I guess you already mentioned that in the opening post. I missed it because I wasn't completely awake at the time.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Do we have any crowner options other than renaming and rewriting?
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.To renaming. Someone just being bald is People Sit on Chairs, doubly so if it refers to an IRL person. It's got to express the character's badassery/intellect in order for baldness to be a trope.
Edited by GrafVonTirol on Dec 31st 2021 at 4:48:31 AM
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (all editions) progress: 426/1089 (39.12%)Are these our options?
- Split and disambiguate (would involve launching new tropes for baldness indicating that a character is heroic or good, and for if a character is especially good at what they specialize in; Bald Head of Toughness covers the remaining meaning mentioned in the first post)
- Rewrite to focus on the authority aspect
- Rename
2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive with each other, but 1 is mutually exclusive with those two.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 31st 2021 at 7:00:46 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.^Yup, those are the three viable options in my opinion. If others have any other ideas, feel free to share
^^"badassery" and "awesome" as concepts are way too vague and have contributed to the issue in my opinion. See the opening post as to what the new meanings would possibly be
Edited by amathieu13 on Dec 31st 2021 at 9:06:58 AM
I hooked a crowner with the options I previously listed.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.The use of a word like "Awesome" in the name does feel like an artifact of that 2000s/10s "Awesomesauce" era of the internet, where people were obsessed with things like bacon or mustaches or the word "epic" (Epic Meal Time is a great example of this). Because of that, I'm 100% in favour of a rename to make it both clearer and less dated.
That time period is probably when the since-cut Bacon Addiction (which was determined to be a meme and not a proper trope) was created.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Another year, another misused ZCE-laden appearance trope facing the chopping block.
...I'll just throw out a limb here, next to be analyzed, Cool Shades?
^ not sure what to do with this but say, let's stay on topic and keep the discussion of other unrelated tropes that may or may not need TRS to the main thread
Calling in favor of renaming and rewriting to focus on the authority aspect.
Get a list of name suggestions ready.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.How about "Bald Head of Authority"?
^that was my default and I'm fine with it. Bald of Authority would also work and would mimic the current name
Rename crowner hooked.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Can the crowner be called for Bald of Authority? It's been five days
Yes it can. Bald of Authority will be the main name, and Bald Authority Figure will be a redirect.
Is a sandbox needed for the move?
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 10th 2022 at 3:35:10 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I started a draft for the new definition on the sandbox i did the wiki check here.
Thoughts, concerns, questions, and edits are welcome
Your current draft seems fine to me.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure PurenessIt looks fine to me.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.considering that the majority of examples of Bald Of Awesome are ZCE and the majority that aren't ZCE aren't focused on leadership, can I take this draft over to the TLP to get more examples?
Edited by amathieu13 on Jan 10th 2022 at 12:51:45 PM
Crown Description:
Consensus was to rewrite Bald Of Awesome to focus on the authority aspect and rename the trope. What should its new name be?
This trope has an issue wide enough that I think "Needs Help" was the best way of describing it.
The Problem:
Per the wick check, it's clear that the trope suffers from a ZCE misuse issue, with 75% being some form of ZCE. The most common is using the trope to just describe a real life person or character as bald.
I think the reason why we see such a huge amount of misuse is because "awesome" is a very vague term, so vague that many people are just outright ignoring it. This is despite the fact that the trope description (kind of) provides a definition: "baldness instead indicates just how awesome a character is, usually representing leadership or over-the-top manliness." Only 2 of the examples checked mentioned leadership and none specified manliness or masculinity.
The wick check shows a breakdown for "correct" usage.note Outside of what was suggested by the description, the trope was interpreted as being applied:
Suggestions:
FWIW, I prefer suggestion 2 over suggestion 1.